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I refuse to believe that a submarine officer had enough free time to write that effort post.
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Mortabis posted:1. How much gay sex actually goes on down there? 1. There's no privacy. 2. Yes, but it's still not enough because the job is that bad. The long and short of it is that nuclear officers who commit for a second tour get a $30,000/yr bonus on top of base pay, sub pay, and sea pay, and attrition is still around 80% after initial obligated service. Myself personally, that bonus would have to be in the mid six-figures for me to even start considering staying in for a second sea tour. (obviously that will not be happening) Cerekk fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Mar 10, 2013 |
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Mar 10, 2013 18:16
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Mortabis posted:Huh. Now I'm wondering if Tom Clancy would be all into that hot sub on sub action if he'd actually served on one. The CO gets his own stateroom that's about the size of the master bathroom at my house. The XO gets his own stateroom too, but he has to share it with the senior rider when there's riders onboard. (riders can be anything from an inspection team, to an assistance/certification team from your parent squadron, to intel guys or divers or special operations forces that are onboard for whatever particular mission you're doing) Enlisted hotrack all the time on fast attacks. The more riders, the more hotrackers. On boomers they find enough spare corners to shove makeshift racks into that nobody has to hotrack. On SSGNs there's unused racks 99% of the time. Trash gets compacted, weighed down, and disposed of at sea. What you're picturing is pretty much what it is: you load up a big tube, shut the top, open the bottom, and away goes the trash. If you're too close to land, you just store it, which is about as pleasant as it sounds. Fresh water isn't rationed unless your water-making equipment breaks, which happens either all the time or never depending on what type of equipment you have, how old it is, and how good your mechanics are. When it does break, the propulsion plant gets water before the crew does. When it's working, you have more water than you can use, but you still limit water usage so you don't have to pump sanitaries as much. The water should be on for a total of about a minute if you're doing a proper "submarine shower," but it's an etiquette thing more than an enforced standard.
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Mar 10, 2013 19:30
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ded posted:^^ We were not allowed to have weights due to possible noise transients. 4 treadmills, 2 exercise bikes, 3 ellipticals, stairmaster, rowing machine, climbing machine, smith machine, 4 sets of free weights with benches. Suck it, fast attacks.
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Mar 10, 2013 23:52
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Mortabis posted:Why is it that boomers have so much more space? Wouldn't all that space be taken up by the missiles? Is it because the diameter of the boat has to be bigger to hold the missiles, and so there's just more space everywhere? There was a bunch of huge 40 year old equipment that got taken out and replaced with storage space, extra racks, and a conference room. Also there's storage space inside some of the missile tubes. And it's just that there's a whole extra compartment for the missiles, and it fits a ton of stuff besides just the missiles. Like the entirety of crew's berthing.
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Mar 11, 2013 01:26
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Null Integer posted:Common discussion on watch involved "20 Questions" and avoiding the ENG's glare. as if this would narrow it down at all
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Mar 23, 2013 01:30
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Wingnut Ninja posted:What kind of divisions/DIVO jobs are there on a sub? I'm familiar with an aviation squadron, but now I'm kind of curious how it's broken down on a sub. Do you have anything like a dedicated admin department? Yeah, it's three guys in an office the size of a somewhat luxurious outhouse. Engineering department: - Auxiliary division (not nukes) - Electrical division (nukes) - Machinery division (nukes) - Reactor Control division (nukes) - Reactor Laboratory division (nukes) Nav/Ops department: - LAN division - Navigation division (Strategic Navigation division on SSBN) - Radio division Weapons department: - Fire control division - Sonar division - Torpedo division - Strategic missile division (SSBN only) - Missile division (SSGN only) - Strike division (SSGN only) - SOF division (SSGN only) Supply department: - CSes - LSes Executive department: - YNs Medical department: - one dude with some Motrin All the Engineering divisions have a DIVO. Most forward divisions have a single DIVO for multiple divisions. (e.g. combined fire control/sonar/torpedo officer). There's a couple other DIVO jobs that aren't associated with specific divisions, like A-ops, A-eng, QAO. Sometimes these jobs end up getting combined with others too. We currently have one JO for all of Nav/Ops department, and he's the AENG and QAO on top of it. Cerekk fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 03:08
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Mortabis posted:What division handles the radar? I'm guessing radar isn't used much at all but subs do have one, right? Navigation. Of course. (it's illegal for a ship that big to -not- have a radar)
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Mar 28, 2013 14:53
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FrozenVent posted:Can civilians sperg in here too? We use lines from the pier. Fast boats carry lines just in case they moor somewhere without them (they won't). The cleats are retractable, as is the capstan, which gets used for drydocking and that's pretty much it. There's an anchor in one of the ballast tanks that I have never seen used. Submarines handle like dogshit on the surface, you absolutely use tugs, though fast attacks have a trainable outboard and could theoretically moor unassisted if it wasn't an idiotic thing to do with a 2 billion dollar ship that isn't designed to drive on the surface. Shaft Alley would be a great name for a gay bar outside the main gate at Norfolk or Bremerton.
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Mar 29, 2013 04:10
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Florida shot a bunch of Tomahawks at Libya.
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Apr 1, 2013 01:30
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Amine makes everything smell pretty bad, but "boat smell" was 100x worse before the smoking ban.
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Apr 9, 2013 03:26
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Sacrilage posted:113th Birthday Video I know 5 of the people in that video, I think I've been in too long.
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Apr 21, 2013 20:57
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:Wait.. so ballast tanks are open at the bottom? The smaller the tank/sea interface, the longer it takes for air to push the water out. There is a closed ballast system for normal ballast and trim, but main ballast is what's used for surfacing. A submarine going inverted in and of itself wouldn't sink the ship. It'd gently caress a lot of other stuff up, but the ship would right itself simply due to center of gravity/center of buoyancy positioning. The issue is that the only remotely plausible scenarios in which a ship could invert itself also involve speeds/angles that would result in an unrecoverable dive in addition to the inversion.
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Apr 25, 2013 03:28
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grover posted:Why not? Because they don't move independently.
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Apr 25, 2013 14:51
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grover posted:Well, that was sort of implied by "no". I was wondering why they weren' designed to move independently- seems like it would be a smart thing to do to maintain stability on the surface as well as redundancy to the fairweather planes for underwater stability. Because as terrifying as a jam dive casualty is, having the port plane in jam dive while the starboard one goes full rise would manage to be even worse. A lot of submarine design decisions are based on what the worst possible case is when the thing breaks. Cerekk fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 03:25
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ded posted:Oh like that. No. But all of the ways to do emergency backup stuff was all there. There's a full-motion ship control trainer in most ports (including Groton, they just don't let BESS use it).
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Apr 27, 2013 18:18
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I was a prior service, SWO selected, liberal arts major voluntold to go to an interview. Told Adm. Donald I didn't want to be there and he still picked me. I always tell people I regret not tanking the interview, but I'm not really sure what else I could have done besides play an idiot during my lead-in interviews.
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Aug 11, 2013 17:43
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FT. All my peers from then are chiefs now. Oh well.
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Aug 11, 2013 22:08
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No problem, Comrade.
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Oct 25, 2013 13:19
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We just did 8 hour watches for 4 months and it was fantastic for everyone that wasn't a daywalker or an electrician.
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Schlabbalabba posted:I actually just brought that up to my old Eng who is in PXO right now. I assume turnover and dinner are at 1930.... how are you going to burn a flick if you cannot start until 2100.... There's a few different ways boats have been doing it if you read the lessons learned messages, but we had breakfast 0700-0800, lunch 1500-1600, dinner 2300-2400 plus PBJ/soup breaks halfway through the day and swing watches when the offgoing guys give head/snack breaks to the on watch guys. Swing watch was protected sleep for midwatch guys, midwatch was protected sleep for everybody else. It worked OK most of the time. Midwatch guys usually get boned with 8 hours straight without a break (especially guys like the SRO that can't get up and walk around/use the head on watch). Day shift guys do all the maintenance on the evening shift (E-div gets boned because they have too much maintenance to fit it all in). Every Sunday we did 6 hour watches and everybody shifted back a section so you only had the midwatch for a week at a time. Officers did rig for dive/breaks/etc in-section. All in all I'd rather do it this way than go back. Even if I was perma-midwatch it would still be better than 6-and-12s.
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Snowdens Secret posted:I'm not sure why you're mentioning the SRO unless you were doing this in-port. If you mean the RO, their ability to get up and walk around is a function of how many guys are qual'ed, not the schedule. yeah I meant RO. It's the same for any watch that can't really leave. But getting stuck on an 8 hour midwatch with no break is really the only downside. All the things you're talking about like drills and training and and weapons handling happen during all-awake time (8-16) so everybody still gets their protected sleep. The midwatch guys get it the worst because with prewatch tours their protected sleep is more like 16-22 but 6 hours uninterrupted is still better than you'd ever do on a 6-and-12 rotation. I didn't think it'd work either before we did it, but it works fine. My quantity and quality of sleep both went up and my quality of life increased astronomically. As a JO I was better rested than I was as an enlisted coner which is astonishing, really.
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