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First Bass posted:I just realized what sounded off about him in that trailer; it's Matt Ryan (Edward Kenway in AC4) and he's bloody Welsh. He doesn't sound Welsh in the trailer. Sounds London to me.
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May 18, 2014 04:59
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First Bass posted:I just realized what sounded off about him in that trailer; it's Matt Ryan (Edward Kenway in AC4) and he's bloody Welsh. They cast someone from the UK, that's probably the best we can really hope for if it's not a British production. 
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May 18, 2014 05:49
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Just have him chainsmoke and be a complete bastard and i'm in.
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May 18, 2014 13:35
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I still want Tim Roth as Constantine, but if we can have a Welshman (doesn't he run like a Welshman?) as Batman, we can have one as Constantine.
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May 18, 2014 15:49
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I just bought volume one of Vertigo's Hellblazer collection today, "Original Sins." Been really intrigued by the character since he showed up in Sandman, when I was first getting into comics not too long ago. That said - there are like 6+ volumes of this stuff for sale at my shop, and I wanted to ask: were there any lame runs along the way, or should I just gradually buy the whole set? Also - when did Mike Carey start writing this stuff, and is it as awesome as I'm anticipating? I really liked his Lucifer series.
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May 20, 2014 05:56
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A_Ruse! posted:I just bought volume one of Vertigo's Hellblazer collection today, "Original Sins." Been really intrigued by the character since he showed up in Sandman, when I was first getting into comics not too long ago. That said - there are like 6+ volumes of this stuff for sale at my shop, and I wanted to ask: were there any lame runs along the way, or should I just gradually buy the whole set? They are all good but the Denise Mia. There are a couple that I personally do not like, but they have their supporters. Carey's run is good but it's one that helps to have read earlier issues as he brings back a bunch of characters
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May 20, 2014 06:04
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A_Ruse! posted:I just bought volume one of Vertigo's Hellblazer collection today, "Original Sins." Been really intrigued by the character since he showed up in Sandman, when I was first getting into comics not too long ago. That said - there are like 6+ volumes of this stuff for sale at my shop, and I wanted to ask: were there any lame runs along the way, or should I just gradually buy the whole set? Start: Ennis Stop: Ennis
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May 20, 2014 06:08
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Sizone posted:Start: Look at this super incorrect information.
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May 20, 2014 06:10
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Sizone posted:Start: That is not true. As I said every single run is good in their own way except for one. Ennis is good but his run is not the only one that should be read.
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May 20, 2014 06:10
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bobkatt013 posted:That is not true. As I said every single run is good in their own way except for one. Ennis is good but his run is not the only one that should be read. Absolutely correct. Mina drove me away from the book completely and I didn't come back until a full year after her. Jenkins is probably my favorite era overall. Pretty sure I'm also the only person in BSS who likes the Azzarello run.
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May 20, 2014 06:12
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Rhyno posted:Absolutely correct. Mina drove me away from the book completely and I didn't come back until a full year after her. Jenkins is probably my favorite era overall. Pretty sure I'm also the only person in BSS who likes the Azzarello run. When I read the entire series I was shocked how good Jenkins run was. I think it was also due to how hopeful it was. John won sacrificing his own happiness not sacrificing his loved ones. It sas so different from all the other runs, and showed that John did not have to be all doom and gloom.
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May 20, 2014 06:21
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bobkatt013 posted:When I read the entire series I was shocked how good Jenkins run was. I think it was also due to how hopeful it was. John won sacrificing his own happiness not sacrificing his loved ones. It sas so different from all the other runs, and showed that John did not have to be all doom and gloom. The whole purging his own soul to gently caress over the First of the Fallen is still the high point of the series for me.
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May 20, 2014 06:24
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I really loved the early Delano run (#1-40) and enjoyed most of the specials too (All His Engines, Bad Blood and Books of Magic particularly). I read through every issue and all of the specials in order last year and was glad I didn't skip anything, actually, even though I wasn't nuts about Mina's run.
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May 20, 2014 15:33
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Sizone posted:Start: Glad to see others bigging up Jenkins' run, it doesn't generally get enough appreciation. On another tack, I confess to being surprised the New52 book hasn't been cancelled yet, I really didn't figure on it lasting long at all...
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May 20, 2014 17:23
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Sentinel Red posted:As someone who also loves Ennis' run, you don't really know what you're talking about. Even if it were close to being canceled it's a fair bet it will continue on until the show airs.
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May 20, 2014 17:40
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Rereading has reacquainted me with what a loving hack Steve Dillon is. Well, either that, or he just chooses to recycle generic faces. Read Preacher and then read Hellblazer and see how many times he uses Tulip's face for women, for a small example.
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May 20, 2014 21:52
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Pope Guilty posted:Rereading has reacquainted me with what a loving hack Steve Dillon is. Well, either that, or he just chooses to recycle generic faces. Read Preacher and then read Hellblazer and see how many times he uses Tulip's face for women, for a small example. Uh, Hellblazer came first.
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May 20, 2014 21:57
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Rhyno posted:Uh, Hellblazer came first. Eh, I'm not meaning to say it went that way chronologically, just that he sucks at drawing faces and everybody he draws looks to be closely related.
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May 20, 2014 22:02
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A_Ruse! posted:I just bought volume one of Vertigo's Hellblazer collection today, "Original Sins." Been really intrigued by the character since he showed up in Sandman, when I was first getting into comics not too long ago. That said - there are like 6+ volumes of this stuff for sale at my shop, and I wanted to ask: were there any lame runs along the way, or should I just gradually buy the whole set? In addition to Denise Mina, Brian Azzarellos run is loving garbage
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May 20, 2014 22:20
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jsoh posted:In addition to Denise Mina, Brian Azzarellos run is loving garbage I will chain you to a tree naked and film it for the internet for saying such things.
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May 20, 2014 22:28
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I read most if not all of Hellblazer and don't really have any sour memories of certain runs, but the beginning is generally the best place to start imo
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May 20, 2014 23:48
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90's Steve Dillon is great. Incredibly naturalistic, and it's easy to see why Ennis fell in love with him.
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May 21, 2014 00:55
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Adam Strange posted:90's Steve Dillon is great. Incredibly naturalistic, and it's easy to see why Ennis fell in love with him. You can see where Dillon began phoning it in about 15 or 20 issues into Preacher. But there's a reason why he was once talked up as the next Brian Bolland, and it's not because they couldn't think of anyone else to give the title to.
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May 21, 2014 01:08
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Rhyno posted:I will chain you to a tree naked and film it for the internet for saying such things. I don't agree with Rhyno much, but if he and I are the only two who step up to bat for Azzarello's run so be it. Constantine in prison was a return to the Constantine as seen by Swamp Thing, mysterious and dangerous and scary. It doesn't really jibe with the rest of Hellblazer, where John is constantly on the backfoot until he burns and breaks whatever he needs to hurt the other guy worse.
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jsoh posted:In addition to Denise Mina, Brian Azzarellos run is loving garbage Die in a fire. Also, I like at least the first arc by Mina. I'm probably the only person, at least on this forum, who will say that. I was slowly working my way through all of Hellblazer, but got distracted by something else before I got to Jenkins, but hearing that his run is good, that's gotta be one of the strongest 300 issue runs with a ton of writers and artists. Even granting Mina being terrible (I don't acknowledge the people who diss on Azzarello).
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May 21, 2014 03:44
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I've got nothing at all against any of the writers, just that one artist. Also Guy Davis, for the heinous crime of not being hired to draw more issues. Dude rules hard.
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May 21, 2014 04:44
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Eh. Azzarello's run isn't good enough that I would tell anyone to specifically seek it out, but if someone was reading the series front-to-back I wouldn't tell them to skip it. It's just not as good as most of the other Hellblazer runs.
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May 21, 2014 05:06
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Pope Guilty posted:I've got nothing at all against any of the writers, just that one artist. Steve Dillon can draw three male faces and one female face, but if it isn't a face, he can draw drat near anything else.
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May 21, 2014 05:20
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Honestly, out of all the crimes an artist can commit, drawing samey faces is a pretty minor one. He's not exactly Liefeld.
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demozthenes posted:I really loved the early Delano run (#1-40) and enjoyed most of the specials too (All His Engines, Bad Blood and Books of Magic particularly). I read through every issue and all of the specials in order last year and was glad I didn't skip anything, actually, even though I wasn't nuts about Mina's run. I really like the Delano issues he kicks around with hippies and stuff like that.
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Pope Guilty posted:I see heaven and hell, but no conservatives. Or Silk Cuts Still, I'm actually excited for this, retention of the "being able to see souls" conceit aside.
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Gruknor posted:He doesn't sound Welsh in the trailer. Sounds London to me. Definitely not Scouse. Been thinking about this some more. One of the annoying conceits from the film they seem to have kept is the whole "being able to see what is REALLY around you" thing. What worked for me best about the comic was the "any oval office can do it" part of magic. John's just this con guy who does it, nothing special about him beyond that. And the best story lines weren't IMO him facing off against big supernatural bad guys (lets face it, Ennis' First of the Fallen was a joke), but how people, normal people, could be horrible cruel bastards, and the magic was just a means (or not even, see The Family Guy). Newcastle was partly about a botched exorcism, sure, but it was really about child sexual abuse and the depravity of some adults. And even Nergal eventually became a joke. e. sorry should have just edit/appended the previous post. Please forgive my nerd sperge target fixation
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Bilirubin posted:Definitely not Scouse. Carey's entire run and some of the best storylines were about how there was a London hidden inside London. That there is a entire hidden world and once you discover it you are completely hosed. That it will destroy you and your loved ones, and that is why Kat survived. She did not get involved with it and therefore was able to escape unharmed. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 15:04 on May 21, 2014 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Casey's entire run and some of the best storylines were about how there was a London hidden inside London. That there is a entire hidden world and once you discover it you are completely hosed. That it will destroy you and your loved ones, and that is why Kat survived. She did not get involved with it and therefore was able to escape unharmed. Huh, not ringing a bell for me. You mean Mike Carey? e. will have to reread those, I only gave them a one time over when the fist came out. I will admit my idea of Hellblazer cannon was firmly established by Moore/Delano and the most recent writers haven't penetrated my head as deeply yet. Andy Diggle excepted because he's awesome.
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Bilirubin posted:Huh, not ringing a bell for me. You mean Mike Carey? Yes. Yes I do.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yes. Yes I do. I'll definitely give these a reread. My memory of that arc is of a battle between magical societies or some such and is fuzzy. Map is awesome however.
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Bilirubin posted:I'll definitely give these a reread. My memory of that arc is of a battle between magical societies or some such and is fuzzy. Map is awesome however. Yeah but there is things like how Gemma gets involved with magic, and her life just goes to complete hell. There is also the issue which was all about him traveling around the magic sites in London.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah but there is things like how Gemma gets involved with magic, and her life just goes to complete hell. There is also the issue which was all about him traveling around the magic sites in London. I'd argue that her life kinda started in hell with her childhood "marriage". How much of that is karmic blowback for actions taken by John though? Family Man revisited this theme of getting at John via his family, plus then Cheryl's trip to hell and back. So I'd characterize it somewhat differently but fair point; its hard to generalize a book that's been around for 20+ years (oh god I am so old  )And let's loving not bring up Lady Constantine. That never happened. edit: I've been on a few tours of sites in London featured in Hellblazer. Just last year to celebrate/mourn the end of the Vertigo book I met some mates down near Vauxhall Bridge. Another time I had a non Hellblazer night with a friend in Stoke-Newington, only to discover while rereading the issue when John first met Zed that he had also had a curry and pint at the same pub (detailed down to the odd placement of the front door) and Indian restaurant. Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 17:15 on May 21, 2014 |
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Bilirubin posted:I'd argue that her life kinda started in hell with her childhood "marriage". How much of that is karmic blowback for actions taken by John though? Family Man revisited this theme of getting at John via his family, plus then Cheryl's trip to hell and back. So I'd characterize it somewhat differently but fair point; its hard to generalize a book that's been around for 20+ years (oh god I am so old It was more that she keeps on trying to get involved with magic, and then used as a pawn as seen in Carey's first storyline. Was the mini series that bad? I remember she was pretty cool in Sandman.
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