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7Dmk2 announced. The main thing that looks different/interesting to me is 60p video.
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1st AD posted:7Dmk2 announced. [edit] quote:super tele EF 400mm f/4 DO IS II ($6,899)
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Sep 15, 2014 16:48
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Is the 24mm 2.8 STM a new lens? It looks pretty sweet, a nice companion to the 40mm pancake.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:53
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1st AD posted:Is the 24mm 2.8 STM a new lens? It looks pretty sweet, a nice companion to the 40mm pancake. Yes - it's EF-S though, not EF. Basically giving crop users the equivalent of the 40mm pancake on a FF
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Sep 15, 2014 16:56
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1st AD posted:7Dmk2 announced. The main thing that looks different/interesting to me is 60p video. That AF system is juiced - eITR like the 1dx, -3EV on the center like the 6D, and the frame coverage...
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Sep 15, 2014 16:58
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Only if you're on crop, yes. concerning the 24mm pancake
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Sep 15, 2014 16:58
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timrenzi574 posted:That AF system is juiced - eITR like the 1dx, -3EV on the center like the 6D, and the frame coverage... Yeah, it looks pretty dope. $1799 USD is not out of control either InternetJunky posted:Yuck. Yuck at price or the lens? Cause that lens looks great. MTF's are comparable to 300 2.8 IS II. Price is poo poo but, you know, Canon 800peepee51doodoo fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 17:43
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Yuck at price or the lens? Cause that lens looks great. MTF's are comparable to 300 2.8 IS II. Price is poo poo but, you know, Canon Back to the 7D2 -- AF at f/8. Yay!
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Sep 15, 2014 18:26
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Mightaswell posted:So I just rented the 135L and holy poo poo. I need to own this lens. Do you shoot FF or crop? I borrowed it from a friend and used it on my 7D, and while the results where nice, it was long and jittery with no IS. It's light, has great IQ and colors, and only costs your left kidney though, so definitely not the last lens to be added to my collection, should I win the lottery.
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Sep 15, 2014 18:40
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bolind posted:Do you shoot FF or crop? I borrowed it from a friend and used it on my 7D, and while the results where nice, it was long and jittery with no IS. I was using on FF, and found it excellent for outdoors small group and couple shots, and indoors for faces and expressions. Honestly I though it was so good that I kept finding ways to use it. At under 1k used I think it'll be my next lens.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:03
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bolind posted:Do you shoot FF or crop? I borrowed it from a friend and used it on my 7D, and while the results where nice, it was long and jittery with no IS. Good indoor sports lens on crop if you need that extra stop over the 70-200 f/heavy - less conspicuous too.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:15
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Crop bros should stick with the 85mm 1.8. Not as awesome as that 135mm L sexiness but light, cheap and great AF speed.
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Sep 16, 2014 14:12
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What's everyone's take on Magic Lantern? It looks intriguing, and like it adds a ton of features. Is it useful for an amateur who shoots mainly photos (vs. video)?
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Sep 16, 2014 14:55
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Phummus posted:What's everyone's take on Magic Lantern? It looks intriguing, and like it adds a ton of features. Is it useful for an amateur who shoots mainly photos (vs. video)? ML is for video.
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Sep 16, 2014 15:38
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Soulex posted:ML is for video. ML has a ton of rad stills features.
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Sep 16, 2014 15:41
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It'll also slow your camera coming from sleep (powered on but no controls) for a good 3+s. (as opposed to an instant wake up) This may or may not be a turnoff for you, but it was an instant scramble to uninstall all traces for me when I went to shoot motorsports. For "slower" shooting like intervalometer stuff, it has its uses.  n.b. this was my experience on a 7D w/beta ML but it wasn't only the 7D with this issue.
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Sep 16, 2014 16:04
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I have shot the ever-loving hell out of my 7D, with weekly Humane Society photo shoots and trips around the world and back, and now college football and concerts. The paint is worn off the buttons, and I feel like the shutter is not long for this world. Do people feel like the next 5D or major FF body is coming in 6 months or a year, or should I be taking a long look at the 7Dmk2 because of timing, if I'm just getting one body? A little peeved at some of the 70D things I wanted (wifi especially) not making it in.
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Sep 17, 2014 16:36
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I looked around and I didn't see a thread specific for pricing questions, so I apologize if this is the wrong place. I've been looking at various DSLRs for while; I have some experience shooting some of my friends different cameras. After a bit of research, I've decided to pick up a 50D (because I have no interest in video and I don't want a camera I'm going to out grow quickly). That being the case, what is a reasonable priced set up for a 50D likely to run me?
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Sep 17, 2014 16:48
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AmericanGeeksta posted:I looked around and I didn't see a thread specific for pricing questions, so I apologize if this is the wrong place. I've been looking at various DSLRs for while; I have some experience shooting some of my friends different cameras. After a bit of research, I've decided to pick up a 50D (because I have no interest in video and I don't want a camera I'm going to out grow quickly). That being the case, what is a reasonable priced set up for a 50D likely to run me? a 50D on KEH will run you about $400. For what its worth I'm still enjoying mine. I picked mine up off the Canon refurbished site with their loyalty program a few years back and its been solid ever since. In the next year I will probably be looking to upgrade but I'm not sure if I'm going to want to go FF or 7D2. We'll see how the field plays out.
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Sep 17, 2014 16:53
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Verman posted:In the next year I will probably be looking to upgrade but I'm not sure if I'm going to want to go FF or 7D2. We'll see how the field plays out. Is there a benefit to staying with a crop? I went FF and I can't imagine going back, I love it.
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Sep 17, 2014 16:59
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I can't seem to get boost ISO to function. Am I correct in assuming this doesn't matter? Like, I could just compensate –1 and brighten it back up in post. Since boost is just a software solution (I've been told), I assume that's basically what the camera is doing for me anyway, right? I may just be missing something. I have Boost ISO turned on under cfunc but I can't actually spin the wheel past 1600 (40D).
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Sep 17, 2014 17:00
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Huxley posted:I can't seem to get boost ISO to function. Am I correct in assuming this doesn't matter? Like, I could just compensate –1 and brighten it back up in post. Since boost is just a software solution (I've been told), I assume that's basically what the camera is doing for me anyway, right? Should be C.Fn I - 3 ISO Expansion It will show 'H' not '3200'
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Sep 17, 2014 17:08
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triplexpac posted:Is there a benefit to staying with a crop? I went FF and I can't imagine going back, I love it. Mainly price, and the fact that I've got a few lenses that are crop only. I'm not looking forward to replacing lenses. Is Canon still doing the loyalty program?
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Sep 17, 2014 17:13
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Verman posted:a 50D on KEH will run you about $400. For what its worth I'm still enjoying mine. I picked mine up off the Canon refurbished site with their loyalty program a few years back and its been solid ever since. Good to know, I'm looking at one on EBay right now that's at 390, glad to see that's in the right range.
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Sep 17, 2014 17:16
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triplexpac posted:Is there a benefit to staying with a crop? I went FF and I can't imagine going back, I love it.
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Sep 17, 2014 17:21
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Finally got an email from B&H saying that my Tamron 150-600 has shipped! I ordered in June. I was kind of hoping reviews of the Sigma would have come out by now but I guess I should be happy enough to have a lens in hand.
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Sep 17, 2014 17:44
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Finally got an email from B&H saying that my Tamron 150-600 has shipped! I ordered in June. I was kind of hoping reviews of the Sigma would have come out by now but I guess I should be happy enough to have a lens in hand. I went to the Tamron tailgate event locally and got to try the 150-600 out. Really good reach on my 60D. Gotta have a rock solid tripod for it though.
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Sep 17, 2014 20:27
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A guy I watch, Tony Northrup, was pretty unhappy with the 7d2. Essentially recognized the strengths but still recommends the 70d to people. It's a specialized camera for sure, and some of the stuff they should have added they didn't. I'm glad I got my 70D. It's great. I don't feel like I'm missing out a whole lot.
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Sep 17, 2014 23:46
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Sports/Wildlife shooters prefer crop because of the 1.6x zoom factor with regards to focal length. That 400L instantly becomes a 640mm lens. Pretty big boost. I've never really gotten this. Granted, I don't have a full frame, but wouldn't using that same 400 on FF and then doing a 60% crop in post processing give you the exact same shot except the flexibility of choosing your crop? I might be totally wrong since like I said I only have a crop sensor, but it seems unless you do zero post processing, full frame is better in every regard. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
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Sep 18, 2014 01:44
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Bob Mundon posted:I've never really gotten this. Granted, I don't have a full frame, but wouldn't using that same 400 on FF and then doing a 60% crop in post processing give you the exact same shot except the flexibility of choosing your crop? I might be totally wrong since like I said I only have a crop sensor, but it seems unless you do zero post processing, full frame is better in every regard. Sort of true now if you shoot something like a 36MP D8XX, where you'd get 23MP or so cropping to that. So, you don't lose much vs using a Nikon DX camera. But if you take say, a 22MP 5d3, now you're cropping to 14MP. So you're losing a lot of resolution vs an 18 or 20MP Canon APS-C. So with the Canon, you're getting way more pixels on what you want by using an APS-C.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:24
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Bob Mundon posted:I've never really gotten this. Granted, I don't have a full frame, but wouldn't using that same 400 on FF and then doing a 60% crop in post processing give you the exact same shot except the flexibility of choosing your crop? I might be totally wrong since like I said I only have a crop sensor, but it seems unless you do zero post processing, full frame is better in every regard. Sort of. Crop sensors usually have higher pixel density meaning that there is more resolution available in a smaller area. This is what gets you your "crop zoom". In actual practice, you don't get anything like 60% more resolution and the crop reach advantage is really limited to very specific shooting situations - lots of light, distant subject. Full frame gets you the benefit of being able to collect more light so IQ improves and you have less noise. You can usually crop almost to the same point as the 1.6x and have the same, sometimes better, IQ. There is a reason that Canon and Nikon's top end pro action bodies are full frame instead of crop, and its because FF has better IQ in a broader range of shooting applications. Crop's main advantage is lower cost and a little more bang for your buck with long lenses. Soulex posted:A guy I watch, Tony Northrup, was pretty unhappy with the 7d2. I get a real KRock vibe from this dude. He seems off and his wiki just screams "shameless self promoter" Tony Northrup Wiki posted:In June, 2000, Northrup won the Sexiest Geek Alive contest.[4][5][6][7][8] Following the contest he made appearances on several TV shows, including Good Morning America,[9] the Montel Williams Show,[10] and To Tell The Truth.[11]
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Sep 18, 2014 02:33
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Piquai Souban posted:I have shot the ever-loving hell out of my 7D, with weekly Humane Society photo shoots and trips around the world and back, and now college football and concerts. The paint is worn off the buttons, and I feel like the shutter is not long for this world. What are you looking at from an upgrade? If your 7D is doing you just fine and you're only worried that its about to die, you can get another one super cheap, even cheaper after the 7D2 hits. If AF is more important for the college handegg then there isn't going to be anything out there better than the 7D2 that doesn't start with a "1" and end in "X". If you're thinking FF for the low light concerts, you might as well just go with a 5DIII now because I can't see Canon doing anything to really improve on it. It's not like their really cranking up the sensor quality these days.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:42
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timrenzi574 posted:Sort of true now if you shoot something like a 36MP D8XX, where you'd get 23MP or so cropping to that. So, you don't lose much vs using a Nikon DX camera. But if you take say, a 22MP 5d3, now you're cropping to 14MP. So you're losing a lot of resolution vs an 18 or 20MP Canon APS-C. It's worse than that. Crop mode on a D800 is only 18mp, 5d3 is 8.7mp. Also especially with birds and wildlife just because you're shooting crop doesn't mean you won't want to crop even further. Now you're dealing with 5 or 3mp and forget about it.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:50
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Sort of. Crop sensors usually have higher pixel density meaning that there is more resolution available in a smaller area. This is what gets you your "crop zoom". In actual practice, you don't get anything like 60% more resolution and the crop reach advantage is really limited to very specific shooting situations - lots of light, distant subject. Full frame gets you the benefit of being able to collect more light so IQ improves and you have less noise. You can usually crop almost to the same point as the 1.6x and have the same, sometimes better, IQ. There is a reason that Canon and Nikon's top end pro action bodies are full frame instead of crop, and its because FF has better IQ in a broader range of shooting applications. Crop's main advantage is lower cost and a little more bang for your buck with long lenses. He does promote his book and all that poo poo a bunch. Some of his stuff is informational as well (to me I guess). But he isn't afraid to promote his poo poo, that's true. I dunno, I just try to weed through the bullshit, ignore the podcast poo poo he does and stick to the 5-10 minute videos
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Sep 18, 2014 03:00
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Just to chime in I was fine with crop format and never really lusted after FF. However, I wasn't fine with Canon's lack of commitment to high quality crop sensors. I don't know how good the sensor in the 7D2 is, but I gave in earlier this year and upgraded to the 6D + 24-105 f/4 and haven't looked back. I knew one day I would eventually upgrade and the ~$2000 kit (with a free bad rear end printer) made things pretty painless. I used to say I couldn't tell the difference between shots from a crop and shots from a FF, but now that I shoot FF, I notice that my photos have a lot more detail in them. I'm not saying it's a must have or "improved my photography 10 fold" but it's one of those addictive qualities (like L glass) that once you shoot with it, you never want to go back. When I originally upgraded, my plan was to hawk the 24-105 as soon as I got it then use the money towards a Canon 24-70 2.8. When I shot crop, I used a Tamron 17-50 2.8 and I didn't want to give up the 2.8 aperture. However, after playing with the 24-105 for a couple days, I found out it's really a top notch lens performance and IQ-wise. It's L glass after all. I also noticed that I was happy with the DoF even though the lens was slower than what I was used to. Later on I found out that a f/4 on a FF sensor is the same as 2.8 on a crop. The 24-105 ended up being on par with the DoF and better than every other way than my Tamron 17-50. That made me pretty happy since it saved me money and upgraded a lens that was getting pretty tired of. Once you have one piece of L glass, you want all L glass. The only thing I miss from the crop days is my Sigma 8-16. I thought about getting a Sigma 12-24 but it gets mixed reviews. There is the Canon 16-35, but that seems like an odd range to me. I kind of also want the Canon 8-15 fisheye, but I'm afraid it might be too gimmicky.
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Sep 18, 2014 06:20
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Haggins posted:I wasn't fine with Canon's lack of commitment to high quality crop sensors. You and the rest of the world, dude. 2009 called, want sensor back, etc.
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Sep 18, 2014 09:14
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What's worst is to know they're working on new stuff, but that it'll probably be still years until you actually get the toys.
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Sep 18, 2014 12:12
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timrenzi574 posted:But if you take say, a 22MP 5d3, now you're cropping to 14MP. So you're losing a lot of resolution vs an 18 or 20MP Canon APS-C.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:14
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evil_bunnY posted:Hahahahaha you'll never loving ever notice the difference. But what if I absolutely must print at 18x12. I require those pixels because I refuse to go below 300 DPI. 
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Haggins posted:Later on I found out that a f/4 on a FF sensor is the same as 2.8 on a crop. I don't get it. Isn't f/4 still an f/4 whatever it's projecting onto?
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