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Cultural Imperial posted:Remember the good old days when the chances of Quebec separation were high which meant it was likely the eastern provinces could be ceded to the Americans? La République Du Québec welcomes our eastern friends into the bosom of our united Not-Canada alliance. Serioustalk: Do people still get off on the Queen and monarchy? I find it kind of ridiculous and vaguely offensive that she's still got a spot in our political system (even if only nominally).
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JayMax posted:As a Québécois I feel a deep, seething revulsion for the Queen. To me she symbolizes imperial dominance, hegemony, disenfranchisement, alienation, humiliation. Pretty much this. I imagine the natives must not appreciate her that much either.
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May 31, 2013 18:32
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Coylter posted:This is a shrieking sound to my hears. Trolling or not i almost started to bleed there. Ignore Raenir Salazar. I knew him in CEGEP and he's gone from everything to a right wing frothing maniac to a stalinist. There's also some less savory things less fit for this thread. But the guy has a serious hardon for authoritarians (hence the monarchy-love) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 31, 2013 19:51
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PittTheElder posted:I genuinely don't understand this sentiment. The way I see it, the Québécois got a pretty good deal following the Treaty of Paris, 1763. Granted, I don't know much about Canadian history between, say 1820 and 1990, but aside from Quebec being federated into a country with a bunch of people who speak English, I don't get the whole 'disenfranchisement, alienation, humiliation' part. Particularly since after 250 years, Quebec still largely retains the most defining characteristics of New France: French and Catholicism. Quebecois Catholics literally weren't permitted to participate in elected government or public official positions because they had to swear oaths of loyalty and renounce their catholicism. The deal the british cut with the church, that is, to keep us obeisant, weak and under-control, left us with a severely underdeveloped, non-industrial and stagnant society until, (miracle of miracles!) the silent revolution dragged us kicking and screaming into the 20th century midway through it. We retain our characteristics DESPITE the occupation and attempted extinction of our culture, not THANKS to it.
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May 31, 2013 20:08
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PittTheElder posted:Well, I should have said after the Quebec Act, 1774, I suppose. That act established a new oath of loyalty that made no reference to Protestantism, or religions of any kind. This of course, forgetting the fact that Catholics are not permitted to swear oaths of any kind, as a matter of religious doctrine.
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May 31, 2013 21:08
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Raenir Salazar posted:As someone who is baptized catholic, whose family is largely catholic, who personally knows a catholic theologian in training this is a massive generalization, and is extremely pedantic any which way you slice it. How is it pedantic? I'd rather not compromise my religious beliefs to serve in office, and I shouldn't have to.
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May 31, 2013 21:22
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Sovy Kurosei posted:Yeah, just like how English Canada went nuts when Francophone Laurier became the prime minister. Are you for real.
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May 31, 2013 23:18
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priznat posted:Is there a 3rd Reich? Pitt being a fan of a 3rd Reich, if there were one, wouldn't surprise me 
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Jun 1, 2013 07:05
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Reminder before we all end up on a tangent about QUEBEC BAD (again): Racism is racism anywhere, not just in Quebec. It is loving insane that they won't let a kid play on account of his headgear.priznat posted:Is it racism or are they trying to out-secularize everyone? This is probably the most interesting question that merits inquiry. Personally, I feel the latter is the mask of the former.
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Jun 5, 2013 01:34
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Have any of the other parties commented yet? I can't wait to see everyone try to out-neutral each other.
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Jun 5, 2013 01:43
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I think one of the nuance elements about May's interview is that there is a time, and a place, for eco-talks about shrimp. 6 minutes, in a short lunch with a reporter, is a huge chunk of time that could be spent otherwise on a subject that can be summed up fairly decently in a few.
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Jun 5, 2013 17:30
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Raenir Salazar posted:We sometimes think of "fringe" parties as crazy dingbats but sometimes they serve a role in representing interests ignored by the big-tent polities; which in this case she has every right and obligation to do so. What important issue should she have been speaking about that isn't already covered by the other parties? I think complaining about Thai Mangrove Swamps is a bit useless when you could instead talk about, say, Canadian environmental destruction. She's running for office here, after all.
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Jun 5, 2013 17:45
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Yeah, when someone says "Conservatives are assholes" the capital C tends to mean the Party. Might be something that gets missed sometimes. Supporting and defending an awful party, largely consisting of awful people, tends to cast aspersions on your moral fiber!
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Jun 5, 2013 22:42
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Jesus 300 grand is enough to sent practically 300 people anywhere in the world, round trip.
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Jun 14, 2013 08:12
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everyone posted:airplane prices Well poo poo, guess I figured you'd get a bulk discount for 300 grand. (I'm bad, I know, it's been too long since I've even been able to afford looking at the cost of traveling)
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Jun 14, 2013 17:47
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Baloogan posted:I gotta say thats my least favorite bit of Canadian culture. I'm in this boat. As great as "we" (And "we" is always a strange and nebulous term) are, at least they don't have kings or queens. It's not really of any use, in general, to encourage a culture based on exclusion or superiority complexes.
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Jun 14, 2013 20:39
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THC posted:A ceremonial monarch, who enjoys no executive power whatsoever, is definitely preferable to an elected head of state with the ability to target citizens for assassination with zero accountability. In all fairness, our prime minister is perhaps a few pieces of legislation away from that point, if not already with the power to do such things. I mean our government can hand you over to be tortured and killed, so I'd venture to say that the only reason we don't have the PMO signing executive murder orders is because we don't have attack drones or operatives around the globe with the same organisation the US has.
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Jun 14, 2013 22:37
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Cordyceps Headache posted:National impotence, not national unwillingness, is probably the reason for a lot of our reputation as peace-loving. The perks of being a middle power.
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Jun 14, 2013 22:44
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The Royal Canadian Orbital Bombardment Force will ensure all threats are shot down before they can even be threats!
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Jun 15, 2013 19:12
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Pinterest Mom posted:This is only hard if you have a phobia of standing in front of a grocery store for an afternoon. Where would this be? I want to heckle him. The economy's been bad and I need to vent my unemployment rage at a member of the institution.
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Jun 26, 2013 01:08
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I will run for Awful in Quebec's Vaudreuil-Soulanges as a No-Nonsense anti-corruption candidate who believes the only way to solve corruption is to impose minimum bribes, to be registered with the Department of Bureaucratic Undersight.
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Jun 26, 2013 02:04
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mr. unhsib posted:Two elected chambers is redundant? Have you told most of the rest of the world??? What qualifies as "the rest" here? And yes, many would argue, myself included, that including an elected second chamber, when the first is elected, is redundant. Here's a simple test for redundancy: Do they both do the same thing? Can one be made to do the work of both, without massively increasing the responsibilities and workload? If yes, then...
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Jun 26, 2013 22:16
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Canada's PERILOUS HOUSE OF CARDS is FINALLY COLLAPSING!!!!
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Jun 27, 2013 17:29
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I'm in favour of geographic emigration (we are working on making quebec sail into the sea and wedge itself onto the coast of france)
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Jun 28, 2013 01:17
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angerbot posted:If your gun is propping up a kitchen table that's missing a leg or something maybe gun ownership is not for you. I don't know, maybe that's just being economical and multi-tasking with one's tools on hand! GOVERNMENT CRACKING DOWN ON FRUGAL CANADIANS WHO USE THEIR GUNS EVERYDAY TO LEGAL ENDS!!
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Jun 29, 2013 06:05
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PittTheElder posted:Queue another monarchism debate in 3, 2, 1... Good song. But I still don't want his ghost ruling my country. edit: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Good point, the Queen's Royal Attack Dogs are quite adorable.
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Jul 2, 2013 05:32
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people posted:border services It's interesting to consider that the CBSA pretty much operate independently and have almost no civilian oversight/accountability. They're like a mercenary army. They go on busts to grab individual undocumented aliens/deportation order ignorers with full SWAT style equipment, like, surrounding buildings and everything.
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Jul 9, 2013 04:46
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What's amazing is that at this point, it's the veteran's sons who are old enough to be retired. They didn't even fight
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Jul 9, 2013 20:28
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It's ok, we'll make up the shortfall in the Army's budget by billeting soldiers with civilians and returning to foraging and looting.
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Jul 10, 2013 01:46
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brucio posted:If Mulcair had a knack for cutting "red tape" and public service jobs, I wouldn't doubt that the forums would agree with Harper in that situation. This is pretty much how it goes. People in this thread haven't really been the overwhelming ideologues that some like to accuse us of. There hasn't been a lack of criticizing the NDP's positions either, I can think of Mulcair's positions on Israel, or their obsession with tax breaks for companies, for example.
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Jul 10, 2013 17:10
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bunnyofdoom posted:Since this is my job and all, and I seem to be the Liberal here, but seriously, why should I believe you on this?
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Jul 11, 2013 16:53
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eXXon posted:I guess there's nothing entirely new about this but it's still amusing to see how tightly controlled every member of cabinet is. But don't forget, the PMO has no control over who cuts a check to whom using what funds.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:55
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Majuju posted:Can you come over and explain to my problem neighbours that it's sort of rude to smoke discount cigarettes and pot right outside my window four or five times a day? Because all the times I've tried, and for all the politeness I've extended, I clearly haven't been using the secret quaint bucket success technique. Smoke cigarettes and ash onto them from above. Apologise if called out on it, but change nothing. Or do that thing they did in the middle ages where you crap in a bucket and throw it out the window every morning.
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Jul 21, 2013 02:55
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THC posted:
Woah, I wish they wouldn't lump us anti-monarchists in with the freaking atheists. Geez.
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Jul 23, 2013 04:21
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THE ROYAL BABY
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Scald posted:Unions should absolutely exist but I'd rather they help get part timers and starting wages raised to a comfortable level than to protect people who made a decision to stay at their unskilled job for 10 years. Why not do both? There is no one forcing us to choose.
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Jul 24, 2013 00:03
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Electoral Olympics: Now doping the dopes.
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Aug 3, 2013 21:38
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Cultural Imperial posted:Y'all ready for some CLASS WAR? margaret windbag posted:I have nothing against firefighters, personally. But times have changed. We can’t go on like this. I could write the same column about the police. You guys are supposed to protect us. But we can’t afford you any more. I have nothing against healthcare, personally. But times have changed. We can't go on like this. I could write the same column about employment insurance. You guys are supposed to help us. But we can't afford you any more. Also: holy poo poo with a degree in English, no one told her you're not supposed to start a phrase with a conjunction.
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Aug 8, 2013 19:04
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In theory, however not it may be in practice, an elected public official SHOULD be working a whole lot harder than the average citizen, justifying that wage.
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Aug 12, 2013 18:58
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No one can stop me from organising a nude foosball league, at least 
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ZShakespeare posted:Punish them by taking their jobs and giving them to hard working everyday Canadian families This should be applied to senatorial misconduct.
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Aug 30, 2013 19:55
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