Canadian Politics Megathread: That is simply not Trudeau

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Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Op is missing Her Majesty

# ¿ May 30, 2013 23:38

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:32

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

It may be wrong to factor in Duffy's personal appearance when discussing his transgressions. But it's almost unavoidable. His plump, pink, serene aspect makes him look like nothing so much as a giant baby who has grown fat suckling at the public teat, and his evident lack of remorse reinforces the impression. That's completely unfair, of course. Chalk it up as just one more way Extra Whitey has been made to suffer lately.

# ¿ May 31, 2013 18:50

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

But how can we have jobs and prosperity without pipelines?! Christy Clark what have you done with our glorious debt-free future :negative:

# ¿ May 31, 2013 19:51

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Kenny Logins posted:

Is it possible for someone to start a new thread on Canadian pro/anti-monarchism? I'd really like to read everyone's thoughts for and against, but I don't think they quite fit in this megathread. The question of whether Canada should keep the Queen in her current role, reduce it or abolish it altogether is certainly heavy enough for its own thread.

I'm sure Aussies and other Commonweathers would have something to add as well.

# ¿ May 31, 2013 20:27

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Man all I wanted was a silly picture of liz in the op :sigh:

# ¿ May 31, 2013 23:50

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Helsing posted:

This column is seriously lacking in perspective. Sure we have some bad scandals breaking headlines but the idea that this is the worst month in Canadian politics is ridiculous. The FLQ or even the tensions surrounding Meech Lake and Charlottetown were much more serious national crises than anything going on right now.

The most outrageous single event in recent memory is the Toronto G20 conference imo. But May 2013 was a pretty awful month.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2013 23:00

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I'm at the slutwalk rally downtown and this loving fat bloke in a kilt and a legion hat is going around telling anyone who'll listen about the evils of Islam and Muslims are the real sexists don'tcha know :bahgawd:

# ¿ Jun 2, 2013 20:07

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Cordyceps Headache posted:

That's not even the angle they're coming from, it's worse than that. The basic premise is that the real sexists are over in [insert country here, ususally Muslim-majority] unlike liberal Canada, where sexism is over and women are just trying to get privileges.

It was actually worse than that, he was saying Muslim immigrants should be deported from the country for what they might do as a result of their beliefs. If we let too many of them in they'll try to impose shawarma law and burqas and honour killings etc. Basically using a feminist rally as a platform for xenophobia.

vvv This was in Vancouver but who knows, maybe he's a jetsetting racist

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jun 2, 2013

# ¿ Jun 2, 2013 23:37

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Speaking of the G&M being terrible

You loving feminists got what you wanted, now who's going to scrub the dishes huh?!?!

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 02:58

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

The last 4 summers I used to buy lunch every week at this dirty old shawarma/donair hovel wedged between the Delta Hotel and the Morris J. Wosk Centre For Dialogue At SFU's Harbour Centre Campus�. It was run by this old Greek guy and he served the best goddamn chicken in the downtown core, if not the whole city.

I was dismayed last week to discover it's been replaced by a much cleaner, but massively inferior corporate franchise which serves lightly seasoned rubbery bland mystery meat out of a big metal steamer. Instead of the delicious crispy morsels of goodness shaved off a vertical spit that are promised by the word "shawarma". I hate what this city is becoming :smith:

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jun 3, 2013

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 03:10

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

PittTheElder posted:

That article doesn't really seem to be anything like how you describe. At least on the part that's on the website, everything seems to be 'men doing more, women still doing most, people hate laundry, doing chores helps you get along with your spouse (regardless of gender)', without any judgmental statements at all. Unless I'm missing something.

The "final frontier" for the feminist movement is not rape culture, nor violence against women, nor the patriarchy that continues to run rampant in our most powerful institutions. (See the numerous women who spoke out about sexual harassment in the RCMP last year, which led to absolutely nothing because the RCMP is an untouchable gang of fuckheads.)

Nope, the final frontier is the division of household chores traditionally done by women. Thanks for this cutting insight, G&M editorial.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 3, 2013

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 03:47

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Clark is Premier, but she lost her seat in the recent election, and as such will not be able to sit in the Legislature until somebody falls on their sword.

vyelkin posted:

Yeah man, after we figure out who's going to do the chores now that women are exactly 100% equal with men in all other ways, that's it. Feminism's done. We've reached the endgame, we just need to push a little harder and when your husband finally does the vacuuming for once in his life you can sit back, relax, crack open a beer and reflect on how feminism is no longer necessary because we solved all the gender problems in the world.

They could have just done a series about how different Canadian households divvy up the chores and it would have been fine. But the Globe is terrible so they made it about "FEMINISM IS OVER"

My mum provides us with food and gold-plated union health coverage; we men do the cleaning, fixing, gardening and computer janitoring.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jun 3, 2013

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 05:10

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

The argument can be made that the Liberal win was an endorsement of Clark's performance as premier, regardless of the result in Point Grey. But its not exactly a secret that she is nearly as hated by Liberals as she is by everyone else.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 05:50

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Kafka Esq. posted:

I find it frustrating that whenever newspapers talk about the NDP, they're "opposition MPs". Whenever a Liberal opens his mouth, they make sure to identify him by party and name. How are you supposed to build up brand when the media pretends your party doesn't exist?

They're not "supposed to" anything because they are socialist Marxists who hate prosperity and jobs

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 16:41

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

CRTC actually does something useful for a change.

The CRTC posted:

The CRTC�s Wireless Code comes into effect on 2 December 2013. The Wireless Code establishes basic rights for all wireless consumers and puts new requirements on service providers. The Wireless Code significantly limits cancellation fees and requires your service provider to unlock phones, to offer a trial period for wireless contracts, and to set default caps on data charges to help you avoid bill shock.

Do you pay a bill after you use your wireless service? If so, you use postpaid services, and you have the right

- to cancel your contract at no cost after a maximum of two years
- to cancel your contract and return your phone at no cost, within 15 days and specific usage limits, if you are unhappy with your service
- to have your phone unlocked after 90 days, or immediately if you paid in full for your phone
- to have your service suspended at no cost if your phone is lost or stolen
- to receive a Critical Information Summary, which explains your contract in under two pages
- to receive a notification when you are roaming in a different country, telling you what the rates are for voice services, text messages, and data usage
- to limit your data overage charges to $50 a month and your data roaming charges to $100 a month
- to pay no extra charges for a service described as �unlimited�
- to refuse a change to the key terms and conditions of your contract, including the services in your contract, the price for those services, and the duration of your contract

Is this the end of three-year contracts? How will the telcos survive? Why does the CRTC hate job creators :ohdear:

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 19:32

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

My contract is up in January; I already get a decent monthly rate so I'll probably just buy my next device unlocked at retail because gently caress contracts.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 19:43

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

PittTheElder posted:

Go order a Nexus 4 from Google. It's an extremely reasonable $310 for the 8GB model, and has been a great phone so far.

I would like my next phone to have better battery life than the iPhone 4 it's replacing

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 01:16

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Team THEOLOGY posted:

Which I couldn't believe when they did. How insane is that.

Who cares? This is a company that makes a half billion dollars in profit each year I'm sure they'll survive having to have different cups and signs to suit the various localities where they do business. Maybe they can dip into their endless budget for stupid TV commercials to pay for it

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 18:05

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Tim Hortons is a small business. Right.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 18:16

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Nah gently caress that let's jus use the same exact one-size-fits-all strategy and marketing materials in every region and if it doesn't work for whatever reason or god forbid the people there get mad at us for making GBS threads cookie-cutter english symbols and terms all over their neighbourhood we can just go cry about it on Sun News or whatever

MY 9 FIGURE MARGINS :qq:

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 18:21

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

priznat posted:

Picturing a tiny swarm of Tim Hortons, distributing lovely coffee and awful donuts.

If you want a vision of the future...

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 18:24

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Team THEOLOGY posted:

I'm not sure if when you write stuff like this you are being intentionally daft or it just comes off that way. You do, at least, as I noted understand where I'm coming from but choose to be ignorant right? That is OK, remember me and punitive crime. But if what you assert is what you have logically concluded you are misinformed at best and foolish at worst.

Hint: the fact that it is mandated is the issue. Obviously a company should have different strategies for different reasons its the nitpicking that causes companies to become spiteful and then leave/rollback expansion along with the jobs they create.

Cities and provinces and countries can and should mandate whatever limitations or requirements on business they consider desirable, because they exist to balance various competing priorities which can include anything from aesthetics and culture to worker rights and consumer safety. They should not discard those priorities to accomodate the bottom line of multibillion dollar corporations which, if left to their own devices, would pay no regard to these things whatsoever.

If there's an arbitrary level of demand for coffee and food in a particular town and tim hortons doesn't have a store there to meet the demand then someone else can always open a coffee shop and "create jobs". While they're at it, maybe they can use signage and decor that integrates with the surrounding environment in a way that isn't totally jarring and pays some regard to aesthetics and local culture

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jun 4, 2013

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 19:20

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

When Mcdonald's opens a restaurant in Paris, for example, they do not install the same 50' tall illuminated sign atop a pole they might use on the side of a California interstate - because they are not allowed, because it would look like poo poo. Somehow McDonald's survives this shocking government interference in the infallible workings of the free market, and the fast food workers of Paris get to keep their jobs too

# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 19:33

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Not everyone wants to or is cut out to be a tradesperson. Getting pretty tired of hearing "JUST DO TRADES IDIOT SKOOL SUX" as the ultimate one-size-fits-all solution to unemployment.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 04:31

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

I don't remember too many NDP supporter posts saying they think they sold their message improperly or that the attacks against the BC NDP were working.

This is some fine revisionism but plenty of people itt were upset with the party and its limp dicked campaigning. It didn't come up super often because all the polls had us in the clear - but it was definitely a thing.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 04:51

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

gently caress Peter MacKay.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 18:40

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

This was just the worst.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 19:00

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Team THEOLOGY posted:

That looks like a Putin photo Op.

Pretty sure Putin isn't crying in any of his photo ops. Russians have no tear ducts.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 20:12

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

BGrifter posted:

Freaking out, changing their message 24 hours later (Chris Alexander acknowledged the existence of the fund yesterday on P&P) and blasting the messenger is pretty much the worst thing you could do to put an end to this story.

if you think this has any impact on their ability to win the election.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 23:21

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

We are fully two years away from an election. I have absolute faith in their campaign machine which is largely dormant at the moment. Once that gets in gear, all this stuff about Harper losing control over his minions will evaporate overnight.

Also literally nobody cares about this poo poo except political nerds and Ottawa people so I really doubt votes will flip in sufficient numbers to prevent another Conservative win. Moderate, evenhanded Harper is still clearly the best hope to keep socialists and kebekkers out of the PMO and keep taxes low and jobs and prosperity flowing.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jun 8, 2013

# ¿ Jun 8, 2013 00:40

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Fine-able Offense posted:

This is just... Not true.

I realize things haven't looked this grim for the Tories in a while. We could very well be on the cusp of a full-blown meltdown. But they still have the most sophisticated campaign machine, the cooperation of the RCMP and other authoritarian forces, the backing of 'free enterprisers' like the Kochs, a largely pliant (if not sycophantic) media and an enormous budget. Not to mention all the advantages that come with incumbency. The Liberals are apparently resurgent, but only just enough to gently caress the NDP up. I will be absolutely shocked if they're even able to regain opposition status, let alone form a government. I'm inclined to temper my optimism because we are still a very long ways out from the next election.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jun 8, 2013

# ¿ Jun 8, 2013 01:40

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

quaint bucket posted:

Canadian Politics Megathread: Let's Pile On the Lone Conservative

Turns out, posting terrible opinions in a debate forum is a great way to get argued with! Shocking, I know

# ¿ Jun 11, 2013 01:24

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I enjoy your posts and I understand the desire to avoid intractable derail arguments about Israel or Reaganomics or what have you; what I don't enjoy is the :qq:

ing any time it looks like someone might want to actually Debate and Discuss the things you post

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jun 11, 2013

# ¿ Jun 11, 2013 01:33

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Alctel posted:

Making the Senate elected kind of misses the point of the thing entirely.

I'm not totally sold on the point of a house of lords in the first place. But I'm just a simple commoner, not privy to the sober second thought that comes with having a shitload of money and connections.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2013 21:39

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I think it's funny how National Post and Globe & Mail comment posters, who were previously all in favour of banning religious headwear on the pitch, have decided they hate Quebec even more than they hate Muslims and Sikhs.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 19:49

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Ceciltron posted:

at least they don't have kings or queens.

A ceremonial monarch, who enjoys no executive power whatsoever, is definitely preferable to an elected head of state with the ability to target citizens for assassination with zero accountability.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jun 14, 2013

# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 20:43

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Christy and Ali have apparently made up and are no longer fake enemies. They had coffee the other day, and they're talking. Here's to four more years of their strong leadership.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2013 19:47

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

TrueChaos posted:

The bigger issue is why the hell wasn't the union brought into this discussion in the first place? They represent the people you're trying to impose these changes on after all.

Because Conservatives think public sector unions are worse than Al Qaeda.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2013 20:13

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I hope they call it Refooooooorm

# ¿ Jun 17, 2013 21:03

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:32

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Speaking of gently caress poors, BC residents making $30k must pay the same monthly MSP premium as millionaires, because that makes total loving sense and is not ridiculously unjust or unfair in any way whatsoever.

STRONG ECONOMY SECURE TOMORROW

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jun 18, 2013

# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 03:39

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