Raenir Salazar posted:

As an Anglophone Quebecer I see the Queen as a symbol for national unity, equality and preserving Canadian culture.

JoelJoel posted:

Obviously income plays a role. The poor are more likely to interact with the CJS and aboriginals are more likely to be poor in Canada. StatsCan has plenty of studies that document this quite clearly. However, poverty cannot come close to fully accounting for numbers like: Aboriginal adults make up 4% of the adult population but 21% (male) and 30% (female) of the prison population. These numbers can seem slightly deceptive. This number translates into (roughly, as figures are not all from the same year and there are major differences between sentencing, prison time, recidivism, provincial v federal, etc.) 970 per 100,000 aboriginals in Canada are in prison, compared to 140 per 100,000 for the entire population (including aboriginals).

It's always difficult when dealing with numbers, but here is one way to put it: The US, who imprison their own citizens at the highest rate in the world, has a rate roughly five to six times higher than Canada's. This rate is about 730 or so per 100,000 in the US (all demographics). As mentioned above, we imprison aboriginals at a rate of 970 per 100,000. That's an incarceration rate over 30% higher than the US. That is seriously hosed.

e: this also seems to be getting worse. I don't have the data in front of me, but IIRC a major study from 1990 found that Aboriginal adults made up 2.5-3% of the total population and something like 10-15% of the prison population.

Kafka Esq. posted:

Technically, we didn't. I don't know how old you are, but I didn't sign any treaties. Also, I've only voted for a party that has one of the better track records in engaging aboriginal stakeholders, and I've marched in native solidarity at least four times (it was sometimes difficult to tell who we were marching for at Occupy).

I've recognized my privilege due to being white, don't lump me in with the do nothings, if you please.

JoelJoel posted:

My Dutch ancestors did a little bit of colonial fuckery in a few continents. Should I be apologizing to my Indonesian friends?

AllTerrineVehicle posted:

I think recognizing privilege and understanding how it came about, and working to address the issues that propagate inequality, is far more productive than trying to assign blame or attribute fault to people who had no direct influence on the creation of the status quo.

There's a difference between saying "Yes, there are problems, and I, personally, benefit from this inequality despite having no part in its origins. Let's work to bring everyone up to the same level" and "Well, I didn't oppress anyone, therefore I have no responsibility to address the issues faced by those less fortunate."

JoelJoel posted:

Tell that to Turkey.

Guigui posted:

Oh gosh - looks like Lyle Lanley visited Montreal after his Ogdenville visit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqVdQYC44Y

In all seriousness though - I felt like a downer pointing out all the flaws in that original Montreal monorail pitch to my parents who showed it to me.

Kintarooooo posted:

I'm pretty sure I would not want to waste our already stretched tax dollars supporting something that seems to have come from the intelligence of an 1-Eastern Quebecer from Sec2 trying to sell this "idea" which quite literally is a 2-ripoff from the Simpsons.

The smell test for this is to actually fund/build a prototype, 3-let the private sector do what it says it does best: spend its own money to make a) a circular test to prove that it could function 24/7 in all seasons; b) a linear test to prove that it won't vibrate the gently caress out of itself at speeds of 250 km/h (or less). 4-There's a problem with bridges bending themselves out of shape given a certain load... I wouldn't want to test that theory on Trens-Quebec cars potentially falling onto a highway crushing the living poo poo out of hundreds of cars below.

5-Scam, unrealized prototype, pipe dream. I choose to think that this isn't the former, but if you say you're going to revolutionize something, 6-you loving do it, you don't build facebook pages and simulations aimed to 7-lull a population to disburse from the public chequebook.

8-Otherwise, a partially buried TGV line is the more sane option. If this *thing* was as good as it says it is, they would either complement the TGV network or compete with it. Oh wait, they can't have that, it would ruin their profit margin...


(parasitic) Capitalism at work. Let them impoverish some other government. Ending their video with "Suspendu au Québec" is also a lovely idea, 9-the only other suspended thing we have in Quebec are construction companies found guilty of or self-admitted to collusion/corruption. Poor image choice on their part.

eXXon posted:

eXXon posted:

Well, to be fair, it sounds like he is inferring that most of the people who lost manufacturing jobs during that time period found similarly well-paying jobs in the oil patch, since unemployment didn't rise significantly... again, during that time period. It's not clear what happened to the 30+% of manufacturing jobs paying over $30/hour, though. Then again, nothing is really clear in that article because the reporting on any kind of research tends to be shoddy.

PT6A posted:

I'm about as anti-Quebec as anyone I know, even here in Calgary, and even I think this a little bit extreme. I just wish they'd be treated like any other province in Canada. No other province would get away with trying to entrench racism in law. They should be able to take steps to protect their unique culture, as all provinces should, but Quebec takes it much too far. They ought to promote French instead of trying to poo poo over everything else.

I do find it pleasantly ironic that Calgary, for our redneck image, managed to elect a fairly left-leaning, visible minority (who is widely assumed to be gay) as a mayor, meanwhile the most "cultured" region in Canada, at least by their own estimation, is so xenophobic that they're actually trying to write laws to control what sorts of clothes people wear.

firewalker posted:

I'm all for denouncing the charter and raking the PQ over the coals for it, but what some of you guys are saying just shows how you hate Quebec.

Joking about sending tanks again? Seriously?

Baronjutter posted:

Every region in canada hates and makes fun of the others, get off your tiny charter-approved sized cross.

flakeloaf posted:

^^No, this is a "You did it to us so now it's our turn". That's way worse.


I didn't say the court couldn't intervene in provincial rulings, I said it wasn't the job of the court to pass law where none existed. That's pretty much the complete opposite of striking down bullshit racism.

By saying you're against the Charter, I take that to mean you don't believe the freedom to practise your religion is a fundamental human right?

angerbot posted:

I'm terrible at baseball, that's not a reason for baseball not to be an activity. School sports kind of suck in general if you're not good at them. More choices is better than "OK TODAY FLOOR HOCKEY" stomping on a human face forever.

Ceciltron posted:

It's a Big Deal to reopen the debate and say "No, you are not free to decide if you're going to secede. We'll decide if you're allowed."

Lexicon posted:

There's definitely some interesting products at the high end. It's far from the case that all our cheese is poo poo. No one buys that stuff in any meaningful quantities though because it's hilariously expensive.

What is poo poo, is most cheese that people buy. The cheese section in Loblaws or Safeway, etc, other than one small speciality corner perhaps, is the very definition of mediocrity. You wouldn't be able to sell a single brick of that weaksauce, plastic "mild cheddar" poo poo anywhere in the UK or continental Europe.

Helsing posted:

Bahahaha. Chrystia Freeland would be a great addition to the party. This is my favourite comment of hers. In Canada your job shouldn't be based on who your father was!

Kafka Esq. posted:

Okay, so maybe we need to discuss what Canada Post said and the way we're portraying it here. Canada Post said they would let people retire and not hire replacements. This is attrition. They're not going to fire those people outright.

Now, is this just softening the blow by Canada Post? Most likely, but we don't really have numbers. Chances are it's going to be both some lay offs and a lot of attrition over the next five years.

edit: also, I think you can burst that talking point by reminding people that Canada Post was profitable quite literally until the Conservatives appointed Deepak Chopra in 2011. If anyone should lose their job, it's him and the people who appointed him.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Last we really heard was Paille stepping down, and the Charter brouhaha, where they said they'd support it after Mourani said they wouldn't, so they kicked her out of caucus reducing themselves to 3 MPs. Mourani subsequently pronounced herself a federalist now.

So, maybe?

Helsing posted:

I believe her argument for becoming a Federalist was that she'd come to see how the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms had a role to play in protecting the rights of citizens in Quebec. I think its kind of understandable why, if you opposed the Quebec Secularism charter and what it represents, then it might cause you to reconsider your stance on sovereignty.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Researchers estimate as many as 300,000 young Canadians are working unpaid internships.

more like dICK posted:

If the government has to pay to fix your lovely body, they should probably get a say on what goes into it.

tagesschau posted:

But why would I want to move to Etobicoke?

PT6A posted:

Yeah, there was. It took an hour or two, as I recall. No hurry; I trust you.

Let's do a good thing here and raise some money for a children's hospital, everyone! I especially encourage everyone who's already spent money to change my title to contribute an equal amount of money to the Alberta Children's Hospital, which is a fantastic organization.

Remember: it's easy, and the link is in my custom title already.

Franks Happy Place posted:

Holy gently caress, you would people PLEASE shut the gently caress up about a god damned fast food chain?

Daynab posted:

He's the Anakin Skywalker to PT6A's Emperor Palpatine, he was supposed to bring balance to the force but became Vader instead.

I believe Canadian Politics could learn something from this story.