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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Grate King Steppe Wolfe King of Bulgaria

Proud, Brave, Ambitious, Lustful. Other stats as desired (Unless someone in the thread suggests something funny)

Having ceceeded from Bulgaria 20 years ago, Bulgaria now sits nestled between the angry Malgars, and the Decedant Byzantiniuns to the south.

However, this doesn;t matter, as GLORIOUS BULGARIA will overcome, for they are the Greatest people in the world!

(one of the weaknesses of Bulgaria is they are instantly under attack and will be bordering an angry stack of 15000 Hungarian Malygars for the forseeable future.)

I like how goons can't read the OP as well :)

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 5, 2013

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Grey Hunter posted:

Well, some people have to much time on their hands.


Also, we have something of a problem. It seems that you lot can't read some simple instructions!

You see, I didn't say vote for a country, I said vote for a country AND a character. and although Ghana is winning, I have no idea who I would be playing!

Get a bloody character suggestion in!

Stupid newbies

On the other hand, if CKII+ works with the converter, I shall be moving over to that!

To be fair, on page 2 people hadn't even realised there was a spreadsheet :p

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Grey Hunter posted:

Voting, Such as it was, is now over.

You guys suck at following instructions, so We shall be Dongu Ogoona of Ghana!

Ghana ghana ghana get you!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Dwarsen posted:

Mind timging that image? It's breaking my tables something fierce, interesting though it may be.

Africa is too huge to be timg'd!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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PleasingFungus posted:

More 'horrifying', really.

Nope. Hillarious. CK2 gives the option for all sorts of things.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Dauntasa posted:

That's unfortunate! I'm pretty sure light infantry is literally the worst troop type.

They're archers, and the weakest shock troops. Archers are pretty decent, since they get to attack in the fire phase.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Pretty much have to wait until they're holy warring with the Christians to the north, or their realm explodes in a succession crisis.

Or both. Or Heresy I guess, those are always helpful because then you can holy war and they can't phone a friend.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Clayren posted:

Listen man, you can't just get hung up on every little thing that goes wrong. Sometimes it rains. Sometimes hellfire eats your cow. Just gotta move on.

Sometimes hellfire eats every cow you throw into it.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Can't have success without succession crisises!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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I love that event. Also, two rulers in one update. Brutal!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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And I just picked them in the 866 start because they had a funny name :O

THE THINGS YOU (DON'T) KNOW.

As also mentioned, Historians have stricken the term "Dark Ages" from the timeline. I think now it's Early Middle Ages and Late Middle Ages.
As for nothing noteworthy in Europe - STEEL was invented in that time period. You know, that alloy we still use in our large scale constructions today. And the thing that defines Knight in Shining Armour.

But alas, our history education doesn't like admitting that someone else was better than Europe.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Civilized Fishbot posted:

With the character creator, any character can become a Sayyid regardless of religion at no cost. How did Muhammad have a male-line descendent who became the Catholic King of Iceland? :iiam:

Succession is weird.

And huh, there you go about Steeeel.

Also on Columbus day.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day
Yay colonialism!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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I would just like to end this whole argument with: NEEEERRRDDDSSS.

To be honest, providing you enjoy learning about the subject, whichever areas history you is still neat. Even relatively quiet stuff like Japan, or various colonialisms. Eurocentrism, or dismissing certain specialisations is kinda dumb.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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the JJ posted:

:downs: "Look guys, I keep telling you, Rome is just right over there..."

:crossarms: "Dude, this is like the fifth "Rome" we've been to."

They're just Roman around. Had to take out the Third Rome before it got going in this timeline. Two of them is bad enough!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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ManicMarine posted:

We must reclaim the provinces lost between the mainland and the Atlas Mountains, Ghana must have contiguity!

Including Mecca, right?

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Byzantine posted:

I'm starting to wonder about the incest events. They seem to pop up a lot across all the LPs. I know why they occur and yeah, there's some confirmation bias, but still.

Even Republics are getting in on the act!

The Republic LP posted:



Also - you know what's worse than Flagchat?

Flagchatchat.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Serpentis posted:

I mean, if we're aiming big, might as well go straight for the top prize (and it's technically ours anyway :colbert: ...

Rome?

Also, is Byzantium having a civil war, or is the empire just that broken up?

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The pretty borders faction suffers a heart attack!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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He could just re-name the Empire.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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I am guessing the point is that it wasn't so much the malaria that decimated colonies, as them already having it from home, and it just being the tropical weather that made it worse.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Civilized Fishbot posted:

And conquer Azerbaijan to convert their Jews.

Hey! Give us time to make them jewish first, geez.

(I know you posted this before I'd made my tutorial LP post. The point still stands!)

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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And so it came to be that Ghana closed upon Mecca

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Neruz posted:

Why should the axis of rotation define up? We define up normally by gravity, using that definition up should be away from the sun on an interplanetary scale.

E: Hah if that was the case then I think the Earth is basically rolling through space.

Map up as north is a reasonable convention. And alinging on the rotational axis gives consistency of daylight longitudinally. While it turns out weather is a lot more dependent on local geography and oceanography, knowing that everything on the same line has the same amount of daylight is handy.

Goons - bringing you new forms of Mapchat since 2007.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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I am pretty sure the AI will find some way to kick over Grey's sandcastle. One way or another.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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It has occasional bouts of "eh, next month, go". Or waiting for your lazy rear end chancellor to fabricate a claim. But it tends to still have a lot more than other Paradox titles to keep you busy.
Plus it's 75% off, so now's a good time to go for it.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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veekie posted:

I tried that in Britannia once. A whole empire's worth of one province counts. There was maybe a 100 years of settling out, then several guys formed duchies. The first guy to hit two duchies swept up and down the country over 200 years or so, forming his own Kingdom of England.

I think the problem with doing away with duchies is that the first guy with good stats and ambition is going to be expanding practically unresisted.

I guess Step #1 is to make sure you have High Crown Authority, so they can't war. Though I guess that doesn't stop inevitable succession hyjinks.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Friend Commuter posted:

Switch to elective monarchy, personally raise as many boys of your dynasty as you can, prioritise Diplomacy over all other stats, nominate the highest-Diplomacy member of your dynasty as your heir, whenever a new monarch takes the throne bribe/title any major vassal who looks unhappy. That way, the only rebellions you'll have to worry about are uppity heathens/heretics/foreigns, and the only way to avoid those fucks rising up is not to have any.

Medium crown authority or so lets you revoke infidel titles anyhow, so heretics and heathens are pretty easy problems to solve. No knives required!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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alex314 posted:

Seeing as thread gone to weird places: what are the best countries for first EU 4 play? I've played EU 2 a lot, I didn't really get into EU 3. Do I have to colonize weird places, or is there fun to be had being some landlocked country?

Ottomans, France, probably Austria, Muscovy (to become big Russian Bear). I'm quite partial to Spain, as well, but that may just be me.
Spain and France can play the colonial game, the others are unlikely to though, and can focus on messing people up in Europe. Just watch for coalitions when you start blobbing hardcore.

Or France, if you're Spain.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Dec 27, 2013

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Watch out for Coalitions when you get huge though. I got turbodunked by Nogai being sneaky bastards, joining a coalition, then DOWing on me. You know, like a player would. So I was at war with Crimea, Nogai, Lithuania, Bohemia.
And Castiele.
After just giving super-Denmark a peace that was not in favour of my Polish allies. All Muscovy/Russia needs is one colonist, neighbouring unexplored lands get discovered after ~6 months next to a core.

Also, they've changed how vassalising people works. It's now based on relative tax incomes. No more "Oh, they've got more than 3 territories, so can never be made a vassal diplomatically"

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Ogoonan Literacy - It's MEANT to be spelt like that.

Wait, drat. This isn't Victoria (yet)

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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OddObserver posted:


Paths through Sahara
+1 colonist and auoexplore of adjacent territory
(Same as Russian Siberian Frontier; may be overpowered)
Our explorers have layed out routes for out traders in harshest conditions, making them experts at finding sustenance
In unchartered lands.


Auto-explore of adjacent territory happens for pretty much everyone in EUIV once a province is cored. There are some +1 Colonist NIs in other nations though, so that wouldn't be overpowered. I think Spain's one is only their 2nd or 3rd idea.

Ogoonan Legitimacy

The Ogoona Empire has had territories all over the world. They even were the Lords of Mecca once.
-10% time to fabricate claims.

Or -10% coring cost.
Friggin foreign lands, taking all my Admin points just to make you mine. Don't even get me started on the Diplo point cost to make them properly Portugese >: (

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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I'd assume it's attrition x 1.15


goatface posted:

Can we crank up the heir bonus and reduce the relations boost? Nobody likes to find out that their diplomatically wed-off family member is being cheated on...

Well Snake Diplomacy
The Ogoonan dynasty has had a long history of virility and unfaithfulness. +10% heir chance, only +15 (or -10, since royal marriages are normally +25) relations on Royal Marriage.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Poil posted:

I don't think attempting to sleep with anything in CoC is a good idea. Wrong kind of mental scarring horror.

I don't think he suggested sleeping with anything in CoC.

More like sleeping with everything in true Ogoonan fashion.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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You'll also notice the giant pain in the rear end that is the expanded Romanche Gap. I was pretty annoyed when I had to wait for Diplo 7 as well as the Colonial Range idea to even start sending colonists.

With Rio De Orio and Sierra Leone as well. Thankfully I've still been able to nab big chunks of Africa. I am pondering just locking up the whole coast as a giant finger to anyone else trying to reach India.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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It just takes a bit to load the new world when loading a save. I wish the terrain were a bit more sane though. Not even counting Romache gap issues.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Neato!

Also, it appears protectorates don't work right. They're supposed to clear all alliances. I finally got around to starting to war against the Ottomens. And my Protectorate of Crimea declared war on me :((

Also, that Kiev! Looking forward to seeing how the snake embraces the world!

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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African nations are pretty well positioned to steal all the Indian and East Indies trade. Especially with control over Alexandria to boot.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Leperflesh posted:

Right, which is fine for Europeans, but Africans who already have the whole hemophilia/malaria resistance gene thing going, ought to have an easier time of it. The EU games just don't conceive of an alt scenario where Africans colonizing places is a thing. Which, to be fair, isn't that unreasonable: being able to convert from CK2 to EU4 is great, but if the EU4 developers have a limited amount of time to devote to various features, they should prioritize the default starting scenarios over the much wider domain of starts that are possible with a custom or import scenario.

In the one game of EU4 I've finished, I colonised the entire East Indies as the Malamuks. My efforts to lock Spain and Portugal out of the entire region didn't work, alas, but I was still pretty happy with my colonial empire. If only I'd thought of just invading somewhere in India to Protectorate them to get more trade power sooner...
By thought of, I mean seen Portugal do it then wonder why I hadn't thought of that.

Edit: and down to the Cape of Good Hope. I just protectorated Kongo so all the trade value was going to a friendly power. Rather than continuing along to Europ.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jan 23, 2014

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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JGBeagle posted:

The only white guilt I ever feel is the guilt of never knowing the rest of my family history. I only know my family lineage up to my great grandparents, save for my dad's dad's side. They're German. Everything else is Hispanic and Native American with a little bit o' Russian* mixed in there.

Being multicultural is so much fun. :smithicide:

*:We don't even know what that entails because what was Russia once may not be Russia anymore. Yay for exterminating inferior races!

The Spainiards didn't keep records? buh. Or are we talking more secret great^n grandson of Montezuma?

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Flesnolk posted:

So why were you losing all the time no matter how much you outnumbered the enemy?

It may have been a unit level issue. If the Abyssids had stronger units sometimes your army can frustratingly collapse. Or terrain advantages. Or the Abyssids were coming in piecemeal, which would at least explain the casualties. As each group of new arrivals came in, the Abyssids morale went high enough to eventually outdo the Ogoonan army.

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