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Hegav posted:Did anyone ever create a perfect tactic for FM13? Yes my tactic was perfect.
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SirFozzie posted:Looks like someone's found a way to generate nearly infinite money (1 Billion in one test) for teams in nations that have the ability to sell % of players to agents.. looks like it's going to be fixed in release so abuse it now while you can... I can't comprehend what this guy is saying at all.
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Oct 20, 2013 20:37
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Frankston posted:I can't comprehend what this guy is saying at all.
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Oct 20, 2013 20:44
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Lost away to Sunderland, 21pts in 19 games (but still in every cup and won my europa league group with Schale & Lazio) so I quit in disgust. Team's playing like poo poo so I'm gonna manage some shite club somewhere and create a wonder tactic. Years from now I will return from the wilderness a prophet of the total football gods. edit: Poyet took the job, played an 18 year old debutant keeper in the cap one cup final. Lost. sassassin fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 20, 2013 |
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Oct 20, 2013 20:44
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Chris de Sperg posted:It took me a while but basically you can buy guys and then instantly sell 80% of their rights to an agent for considerably more than you paid for them, also since you can pay in installments for a transfer while you get the agent fee instantly (and into your budget) you can quickly rack up a huge budget. Thanks, that was much easier to parse than that guy's HIGHLY UNBALANCED AND UNCALIBRATED mega-post.
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Oct 20, 2013 21:44
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I will never get tired of building a solid team mostly from free transfers after winning a promotion.
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Oct 20, 2013 21:56
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Frankston posted:This game is weird. The tactic has my team playing great, regular 8 and mid-to-high 7 ratings every game for 90% of the team yet I still end up losing repeatedly. About to be relegated for the 2nd time in 2 attempts. Here's a link to the .tac file that my friend came up with, had a bunch of tweaks.. working really well for me right now, not giving up a goal in the last 400 minutes or so. http://www.mediafire.com/?8eszbxf5c8isa1v
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Oct 21, 2013 02:22
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I'll have to have a look at that tonight. I'm doing okay attacking, but suck defensively. I'm still within a point or two of top in mid november with Arsenal, so pretty much performing to par, but I need to see how a decent defense works this version so I can adapt my tactics.
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Oct 21, 2013 07:41
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Haven't played that much, I've only been through a few matches with different teams (Arsenal, BVB, Milan, Monaco) but I'm experiencing the same. I always managed to create solid defences in the previous games but I'm being constantly overrun in this one. They might have tweaked the match engine so the 4-3-3 with an anchor man isn't as solid defensively as before, but it's annoying that a lot of the chances and goals against comes as a result of my defenders just standing still not reacting to passes and movement around them. But it's still just a "beta" and they're fixing stuff for the release day patch so I think I'm just going to wait until thats out before starting a proper game.
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Oct 21, 2013 08:15
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My defence didn't get any better with a proper system (two banks of 4, anchored midfield 3) than when I had Leon Britton running the whole midfield on his own. In fact with the latter my possession stats were much better. Despite my poor run with Swansea I'm not convinced my stupid code:Managing Teplice in the Czech Rep now. Got nine games of a 30 game season to secure mid-table-ish. Already sold my best player for £1.2m and brought in 2 americans, 2 UAEs and a Brazilian on frees. And got a 5-star potential (1-star current) 14 year old 6'4 target man in youth intake. Time for murderball.
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Oct 21, 2013 10:07
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In your mind, draw a square which has your CBs and and your AMs as the corners. That's the space you're expecting one CM to patrol. 4-3-2-1 is really hard to make work for that reason.
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Oct 21, 2013 10:28
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St Evan Echoes posted:In your mind, draw a square which has your CBs and and your AMs as the corners. That's the space you're expecting one CM to patrol. 4-3-2-1 is really hard to make work for that reason. The wide midfielders were set to play as narrow as possible, and the AM did an okay job of marking runners. I was trying to do something deliberately different from last year's game, where I'd often have my fullbacks drawn out and doubled up on because AMR/Ls don't track back nearly far or often enough. Ironically I would still concede from wide play because opposing wingers could more easily pick out a free man in the centre. Defense wasn't what was killing my team, though. 60+% possession every game but my attackers couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from more than 12 yards, apart from Vazquez who had a decent record.
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Oct 21, 2013 10:56
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I don't have 14 yet but I assume I'll do the same thing I've done the past two games when I get it and create a brutally attacking 442 where the fullbacks and wingers attack constantly and one of the CMs is tasked with defending everything that comes our way and I won't compromise if they fail it's not my fault they just didn't try hard enough
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Oct 21, 2013 13:06
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SirFozzie posted:Here's a link to the .tac file that my friend came up with, had a bunch of tweaks.. working really well for me right now, not giving up a goal in the last 400 minutes or so. Looking good so far. Just conceded our first goal of the season in our 7th game, including a 1-0 over Man Utd. Edit: Finally suffered our first defeat of the season in December. 1-2 against Man City away with an exhausted squad and players playing out of position thanks to a ton of injuries. Frankston fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Oct 21, 2013 14:53
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Anecdotal evidence but that tactic just destroyed in the one game I used it AND Jonjo Shelvey died (torn hamstring poor bugger). Fantastic work. edit: Bony is a monster at false nine. He still can't actually score but god help the woodwork, it's in for a battering. sassassin fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Oct 21, 2013 19:04
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I played a very similar formation to that in FM2013. I used slightly pushed up defensive wingers rather than attacking wing backs though, more like a 3-5-2 with a defensive mid. Hoping it still works in FM2014 because so far I've been on the verge of the sack 3 times before christmas in the Blue Square North. Big looping crosses seem tremendously effective against all my times
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Oct 21, 2013 19:46
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So it looks like free kicks still suck and barely any goals come from them. Anyone else having the same experience?
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Oct 21, 2013 20:03
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I'm alternating the Juve tactic above with a 4-1-3-2 control/fluid (not much change from a 4-4-2 with a DMC instead of one of the MC). On the Dortmund run, we're scoring a ton of goals (Lewandowski actually had five in a game). Lose the possession battles a lot, but that may be cause we're just attacking recklessly instead of holding it. If I'm playing a team that is having the majority of chances, I change to counter/balanced/retain possession Instruction Thoughts: Play out of defense is a must call, it stops those random boot upfields that get turned around into another attack quickly. A push higher up seems to help when you have the advantage, it starts things higher up field and seems to do more pressing to turn defense into attack quickly. Play into space seems to be not so useful edit: Update from the creator: Changed it to Fluid and ticked the "shorter passing" instruction in order to attempt to decrease longer shots and increase passing to strikers in better scoring positions (i was noting way too many long shots for my tastes). Striker roles can be adjusted to suit your players' strengths, as long as you have 1 playing a false 9/deep-lying forward and one more up-front I have found it works equally well. I've played with DLF and Advanced Forward several times with backups, or even with Complete Forwards. In fact - in the uploaded version I think you'll find one False 9 and the other as an Advanced Forward, where usually I play with a Target Man/False 9 combo. SirFozzie fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Oct 21, 2013 20:15
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Bea Nanner posted:So it looks like free kicks still suck and barely any goals come from them. Anyone else having the same experience? Leon Britton scored one for me (is there anything he can't do?) but De Guzman is as bad as he was in 13.
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Oct 21, 2013 20:53
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Trip report for that tactic: Finished 8th with Aston Villa which considering I couldn't stop getting relegated before is pretty drat good. We were challenging for 1st place up till around Christmas time when Benteke decided he wanted to leave for a bigger club and got pissy when I said no, and this happened:  From 2nd to 9th, we never recovered. As soon as his morale went back to normal we immediately thrashed Newcastle 4-0, beat Chelsea 1-0, and drew away with Liverpool and Arsenal. If not for that rather large blip I think we would have made top 4. Edit: Guzan got the most clean sheets, Guzan and Lowton were in the team of the year and Luna won young player of the year. Frankston fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Oct 21, 2013 20:54
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Hats off for not savescumming that.
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Oct 21, 2013 20:58
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You should have tried some wildly different tactic around the Soton/Huddersfield games to try to catch the AI out. That or new contracts & bonuses time.
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Oct 21, 2013 20:59
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sassassin posted:Leon Britton scored one for me (is there anything he can't do?) but De Guzman is as bad as he was in 13. I've gotten a couple, but it's just not realistic. I think they can only really be scored parallel with uprights and about 5 yards behind the penalty area. The trajectory is hosed up that it's highly improbable to get one anywhere else. I do get a fair amount of close calls, so maybe they are working on it, but it's just not quite right. Also, only the best players seem capable of scoring them. I'd love to see lovely teams rely on an aging free-kick merchant, but it's not a valid strategy. I guess part of it is that people playing the game don't like being scored on by free kicks, so that probably complicates things as well.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:09
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Here's the 4-1-3-2 I mentioned if folks want to test it: http://www.mediafire.com/?t9u3drs78qeqp6q
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Oct 21, 2013 21:17
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Still waiting for the version where they leave the interface alone and just fully focus on fixing bugs and polishing the match engine.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:19
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Hegav posted:Still waiting for the version where they leave the interface alone and just fully focus on fixing bugs and polishing the match engine. Football Manager: Miles Jacobson's Cold, Dead Grave Edition
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Oct 21, 2013 21:32
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At the risk of getting whiny I feel like the interface in FM 2013 was perfect. I've dumped about 11 hours in FM 2014 and so far I still actively despise everything about this new UI.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:46
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Wirth1000 posted:At the risk of getting whiny I feel like the interface in FM 2013 was perfect. I've dumped about 11 hours in FM 2014 and so far I still actively despise everything about this new UI. I like it, except for having to click an extra button to navigate to the match prep screen. That summary page is loving pointless.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:55
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Have they modeled attempts to evade FFP as well as FFP itself? My board announced a £7 million 1 year "General Sponsorship" deal at the same time as their £5 million investment into the club, which seems a bit on the high side for Watford. Conveniently turned a huge expected breach of FFP into expected compliance though. e: There should be a Park the Bus instruction distortion park fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 17:38
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pointsofdata posted:e: There should be a Park the Bus instruction  edit: 113th minute winner jesus playing 5-3-2 against another 5-3-2 isn't a good idea. They almost had me 
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Oct 22, 2013 19:29
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Bea Nanner posted:I've gotten a couple, but it's just not realistic. I think they can only really be scored parallel with uprights and about 5 yards behind the penalty area. The trajectory is hosed up that it's highly improbable to get one anywhere else. I do get a fair amount of close calls, so maybe they are working on it, but it's just not quite right. Also, only the best players seem capable of scoring them. I'd love to see lovely teams rely on an aging free-kick merchant, but it's not a valid strategy. I had some success after reading that the most important stat for free kicks isn't Free Kicks, but Technique. Someone explained that while Free Kicks was the ability to put a shot on goal, Technique defined how the player actually struck the ball. I had a couple players in FM13 with great Technique and mediocre Free Kicks bang in 5+ a season each.
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Oct 23, 2013 04:29
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New patch is out for the beta, no changelog because they claim at least 600 bug fixes. Backroom advice screen no longer takes like half a minute to load at least.
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Oct 23, 2013 15:49
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how does this run? fm 13 ran absolutely horribly for me on my MBA (very terrible in OSX, mildly terrible in bootcamp partition—but I'm not going to bootcamp just to idle fm in the background lol), which was odd/disappointing/frustrating because every single previous version ran really smoothly for me.
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Oct 23, 2013 16:08
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They changed Lewandowski having a signed agreement to join Bayern (as it's just a rumour at this stage). Now he is leaving but anyone can snap him up, will only take effect on new games though.
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Oct 23, 2013 16:18
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bnrelated posted:how does this run? Really depends on the size of your database.
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Oct 23, 2013 17:02
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In my experience the match engine has been fine the past few years, except when I lose. Then I just assume it is horribly broken.
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Oct 23, 2013 17:33
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Has anyone had success with the new roles yet? So far they all seem like worse versions of the old ones.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:43
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sassassin posted:Has anyone had success with the new roles yet? So far they all seem like worse versions of the old ones. I used a bad striker as a "false nine" in a generally good Conference North team and it worked like a charm. I can see using that and the fullback roles but the roles for attacking players all seem pretty superfluous.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:45
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I just got fired after a horrific post christmas slump. Went from winning 6 matches in a row with maybe two losses in the first half of the season to a series of loses and 1-1 draws. Was still 7th in the table.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:10
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bow chicka wow wow posted:I used a bad striker as a "false nine" in a generally good Conference North team and it worked like a charm. I can see using that and the fullback roles but the roles for attacking players all seem pretty superfluous. Did you use it as a lone false 9? With a strike partner it plays no different from a dlf-s from what I've seen so far.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:13
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