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Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

Veloxyll posted:

Though the really weird (and worrying!) thing about debates on women's rights is that even when explicitly presented with detailed explanations of just how hosed up the things they're doing actually are, people keep doing it. Even when people are philosophy departments or whatever.

The human brain is a surprisingly robust facsimile of a logic machine with a lot of socially-oriented rules, but it really shouldn't be surprising when people keep doing things even if presented with a logical reason not to, and, to be blunt and perhaps slightly pessimistic, patriarchy has worked out pretty well for probably at least a third of the population (mostly the type who don't give it much thought), so the motivation just may not be there, either. Similar statements could be made about just about any other form of bigotry or *ism.

Like so many problems, it's a systemic issue, and tends to self-perpetuate. It has roots in human psychology (and sometimes flawed human reasoning), and in an encrusted and fortified system of beliefs that have built up over centuries and spans the entire planet. For a lot of people, those beliefs are not going to change in a day or a year or even a decade, and for some people not ever. They'll print up literature about bio-truths and try to teach their children what's right and wrong for each gender to do, or whatever particular biases they might have, and it will probably never completely go away. The only thing one can really do is keep a steady spotlight on the issue, expose as many flaws and problems in the system as you can, and gradually, change peoples' minds. For a similar issue, look at racism, which is slowly starting to fade in many places, but it will probably never completely go away, and the only way you can prevent a resurgence in that sentiment is to keep hammering away at it anywhere you find it. Even when people no longer actively believe in troublesome ideas like those, the rituals and habits those ideas shaped remain, and will take longer still to change.

So, I wouldn't say it's necessarily 'worrying', just a little sad that that's just the way life tends to be; it can take a very long time to break bad habits, and when you're talking about bad habits built up over several lifetimes, reinforced repeatedly in public life, it could take a very, very long time. Keeping the issue visible and alive in public thought is one of the best ways to deal with it, which is part of what made this lp really excellent.

There's also the fact that it was funny as gently caress, because goddamn, these were some terrible-rear end 'games'.

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