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What should you be looking for when you're trading someone who's a high pick in a keeper league? I currently have Verlander and Zimmerman in my second and third respectively and I have zero idea how to value them compared to lower round selections. Typically I have an irrational clinging to higher picks regardless of any regression or what not. Should I even consider any lower pick guys and use them as a keeper (say, getting Michael Wacha at round 24), therefore freeing up my second rounder for someone else?
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Feb 5, 2014 14:58
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IcePhoenix posted:There's an important thing you should consider about Keeper Value, and that's where you expect the players you're keeping to be drafted. I agree!
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Feb 5, 2014 16:02
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DoctaFun posted:The only way I would keep a first 3 round pick is if it's someone that is the best at their position and a guaranteed 1st-2nd rounder. So if you have a guy like Trout/Miggy for a first round pick, or maybe you got lucky and someone like Kershaw in the 3rd or 4th round. For the absolute studs it's not as much about 'value', it's more about getting the best player at a position. Miggy is just so much better than any other 3B that even though he's your 1st round pick, you still get good value out of it. Meanwhile if you keep Prince Fielder in the 1st or 2nd round, well that's not great value because you could draft Votto/Goldschmidt/Encarnacion with your 1st or 2nd round pick and be no worse for the wear. Let's take a look!  To go into the entire draft order and who's a keeper would be a bit much, I think. The keepers I currently have from last year are: 1 - Tulo 2 - Verlander 3- Zimmerman 6 - Bourn 8 - Rios 9 - Freeman 15 - Kendrick 21 - Vargas 22 - Brantley via trade was 15 - Taveras 16 - Bauer 22 - Myers You can keep ten players. This is a 12 team keeper league that I inherited from someone who just didn't have the time. Ten keepers. 1-6 stays in that slot. 7-9 +1 round 10-15 +2 rounds 16+ +3 rounds So Wil Myers would be in my 19th slot for next year. There also will be an NA slot this year for people who are not available. So if Taveras doesn't play until May, he can be stashed there for a while. Oh yeah, stats for bats: R HR RBI SB OBP SLG Stats for Pitchers: W K ERA WHIP NSVH ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Feb 5, 2014 18:12
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Something that came across my inbox just now was Verlander for Bruce + Anibal Sanchez or Johnny Cueto + A Pick Bruce was in round five (so roughly was picked up in the 55th slot) and Sanchez is in round 12. I would imagine that for that second round pick I might be able to get something good. However, with 12 teams that makes for 120 keepers. It's just a hugely different way of doing things than I'm used to.
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Feb 5, 2014 19:17
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Deal got switched to Bruce + Cueto + a ninth round pick for Verlander + a 24th. Cueto was in the 11th last year. You can only keep one first rounder, one second rounder, etc. That way someone doesn't trade for Cano, etc etc and have a stack of first rounders forever. Wheeler was undrafted last year and his ADP 195, so he would be considered a 16th round keeper this year. Perkins was an 18th round selection last year. He would be bumped up to a 15th round selection this year. Cashner was undrafted last year and his ADP is 202, so he would be considered a 16th round keeper this year. If you trade for a pick, you can use that traded for pick as an additional keeper slot for that round. If you have 2 players with the same slot, you can keep both, but you have to move one of them up a slot. For example you have round 15 keeper and 2 round 16 keepers: You move the 15 up to 14, the 16 up to 15, etc.. Rios and Bourn is an interesting, speedy combination. Why not take the chance on Springer? His K rate is scary high in the minors would be my guess. This makes my head hurt.
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Feb 5, 2014 21:52
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I turned Verlander at 2 into Cueto at nine, Grey at 17, Bruce at 5 and a ninth and a 21st pick. Sure.
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Feb 7, 2014 18:44
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uublog posted:Yeah, that's fair. QS are okay, but yeah, wins are just plain awful. The problem I find is that, if you use QS out of a necessity, you still don't really have enough categories without going to something really obscure. QS, K, ERA, WHIP...? My league uses QS K WHIP ERA SVHD and now hr/9 Dunno how I feel about that
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Feb 11, 2014 14:52
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MODS CURE JOKES posted:Anyone interested in joining an auction league? I'm Yahoo ID# 54396, A League for Idiots. 6x6 scoring, with OBP and BB/K as the added categories. 16 teams, Mixed league, Positions are C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF, OF, Util, 2 SP, 2 RP, 4 P, 5 BN, 2 DL spots for 25 overall. I promise to be the bestest commissioner ever!!! Draft is currently set for 8 EST tonight, so join quick I guess. I'm gonna post this on twitter as well, so hopefully we can get going by this evening. Can you be bad at this and still join
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Feb 11, 2014 16:57
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Here's what I ended up with (we use SVHLDs and OBP instead of average) Keepers listed with a K C - Yadier Molina 1B - Jose Abreu 2B - Daniel Murphy 3B - David Freese SS - Troy Tulowitzki (K) OF - Justin Upton OF - Jay Bruce (traded for)[K] OF - Alex Rios [K] UTIL - Adrian Gonzalez UTIL - Freddie Freeman [K] BN - Oscar Taveras [K] BN - George Springer [K] BN - Kris Bryant BN - Wil Myers [K] SP - Cueto [K], Hamels, Ivan Nova, Tyson Ross, Sonny Gray[K] RP - Jim Henderson, Rafael Soriano, Papelbon BN - Taijuan Walker, Noah Syndergard That means my bench has four inactives right now, jeez. God my relief pitching is terrible in a 12-team. But who cares closers and relievers are all bungholes.
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Mar 18, 2014 15:06
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Jose Abreu is a golden god I almost traded David Murphy for Evan Longoria but my league vetoed it I was hoping that everyone was too drunk on the weekend to notice.
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May 15, 2014 17:08
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This plouffe/Francisco platoon better work Also gently caress Verlander. I shouldn't be so scared to play you.
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May 27, 2014 15:04
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Jdubs posted:Thank you Goons for delivering me George Springer. Thank you so so much. What up Springer bro
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May 28, 2014 21:40
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gently caress bad Justin Verlander forever and ever On the plus side it's almost June Come on up taveras and singleton
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May 29, 2014 17:04
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Doltos posted:That's my favorite as well. Keeper or non keeper?
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May 29, 2014 17:39
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I'm really hoping Kris Bryant pans out next year because I am seriously thinking of using a keeper on him
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May 30, 2014 17:02
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Stroman looked loving nasty. Is he going to stay up? And what should I be looking to deal right now on this team, 12 team keeper: C: Molina 1B: Abreu 2B: Daniel Murphy 3B: Plouffe SS: Tulowizki OF: Rios OF: Springer OF: Taveras UTIL: Freeman UTIL: Elsbury BN: Myers BN: Jay Bruce BN: Kris Bryant _ SP: Beckett SP: Fister SP: Hamels SP: Gray SP: Lester SP: Johnny Cueto SP: Noah Syndergaard SP: Marcus Stroman SP: Taijuan Walker (DL) RP: Papelbon RP: Ottavino RP: Will Smith If we want to go into keeper specifics I can add them. ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 21:32
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Cuetos injury history and delivery worries me, maybe trade him while he's hot? Same with Beckett off the no hitter. Im in 11th place though, see above, so by no means an expert.I'd try to get a 3B if you could. Maybe Lonnie Chisenhall is sitting on the waiver wire? He had a top prospect pedigree before he flamed out and started hitting again this year. Nah, Chisenhall is taken. Cueto's injury history worries me, but I'd probably look to dump him later on. I think unless he does injure himself he's legit based off of last year. I'm in first with a 5 game lead over the next two guys, after that it's 13+ all the way down. I feel bad for the guy who is 36 games out. He makes so many moves and tries really hard. 
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Jun 2, 2014 21:51
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BaseballPCHiker posted:That guy is me right now. I would think there would be some deal you could make for a 3B somewhere along the line. It's fairly deep and there are a lot of multi-eligibility guys at the position. Plouffe really isn't hurting me. He's been able as productive as David Wright as a waiver wire pickup. I split him with Francisco for a while, too. On the plus side I get to keep Taveras, Springer, Gray, Freeman, and Abreu for years. 
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Jun 2, 2014 23:08
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Doltos posted:Welp snagged Polanco and Singleton. What can I expect out of these guys? Dingers and strikeouts from Singleton. Polanco is an all around guy.
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Jun 3, 2014 15:47
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Pardon me while I jizz over knowing I get to keep Jose abreu forever
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Jun 4, 2014 17:54
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gently caress Will Myers I have him with a super low keeper but I'm very close to dropping him
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Jun 6, 2014 15:10
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I'm guessing I keep Wil Myers since I have him slotted in like the 17th round but I'm real fuckin' tired of him.
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Jun 9, 2014 18:56
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I'm guessing I hold onto Wil Myers since I got him in the 17th of 26 rounds but man has he been a disappointment this year
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Jun 10, 2014 22:50
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Should I sell Beckett now? Also roark is still out there in free agency somehow.
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Jun 11, 2014 16:30
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ChiTownEddie posted:If I thought that I could get a decent hitter back and pick up Roark, I'd definitely sell. To me that is basically just getting a decent hitter for free. ...Except that I think Roark will be better ROS than Beckett. That's what I thought. I need to drop a player right now while the trade is going through to get roark. I'm looking to get Rendon from the guy. Bench + pitchers Taveras Kris Bryant Cueto Beckett Lester Gray Fister Walker Syndergard Stroman
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Jun 11, 2014 17:06
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I always assume a hot rookie is going to perform at league average when they come up
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Jun 11, 2014 18:32
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Trading Verlander for Fister makes me happier and happier
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Jun 13, 2014 12:36
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:That's some balls. Did you try for anything better than Fister and just no takers? Also got ellsbury for agon Fister 15th round Ellsbury 7th round Verlander 2nd Agon 4th
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Jun 14, 2014 00:02
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I want to make a trade but everyone in the league has basically told me to gently caress off after being in first place for seven straight weeks I feel like I have too much pitching and I could use a player to spell springer when he's slumping, or a better 3b then castellanos. But I don't feel like dropping dudes I should be able to get value for.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:25
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Rand alPaul posted:FINALLY, A DISAPPOINTING RED SOX PROSPECT TO REPLACE CURRENT DISAPPOINTING RED SOX PROSPECT, XANDER BOGAERTS. Lol
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Jun 28, 2014 22:04
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I have three na guys buti dunno ifi should get rid of Polanco Kris Bryant or Syndergard in a keeper league
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Jun 30, 2014 13:32
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Moe_Rahn posted:Cueto went at 143 and 138 in each of my leagues. I got Jose Abreu at 171 and 212, he has definitely been my steal of the year. I have tulo abreu and springer in my keeper league of a garbage team I took over Dingers Speaking of dudes do I drop yadi and keep the mets catcher Someone drafted him at like pick 200 and dropped him and right how my starter since yadi is hurt. I only have one dl spot and Myers is in it. ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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Jul 14, 2014 15:04
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gently caress 1 dl slot keeper leagues
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Aug 21, 2014 15:28
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Keeper league, twelve team Taveras (9th round) and Syndergard (19th Round) for Pineda (24th Round) I'm already keeping Springer(15) and Ellsbury(4). Thoughts? weas posted:Soler is getting called up. I still have Bryant on my bench. 
ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 20:25
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Jose Valasquez posted:Jorge Soler 
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Aug 30, 2014 14:44
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Sonny Gray noooo
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Sep 3, 2014 15:03
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I won home runs with two home runs total. How in the gently caress
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Sep 15, 2014 14:45
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I miss Springer and Tulo
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Sep 15, 2014 15:47
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Well I took a team that was dogshit and dead last and wound up in third so I'm happy. Now to figure out who to keep and who to chuck/trade.  Edit2: I actually have an offer for Taveras and Syndergard for Pineda. Pineda someone drafted last you in the absolute final round of the draft, with Taveras I have at 13 and Syndergard at 21, so that'll be 11 and 18 in terms of keeper spots, while Pineda will be in like the 22nd round. ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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Oct 6, 2014 21:31
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