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Recruit anilEhilated, reporting for duty! Would prefer to be an archer or ninja. edit: Do whatever with the name, suggesting two classes because some people apparently dislike archers in this game. No idea why. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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I got to the end of this game years ago, and lost my save before I could beat it. Now I barely remember the plot. I've tried playing through since and haven't been able to get back into it. Looking forward to seeing it again with less work on my part. Signing on as EchoCian, Dragon Tamer. Or Siren if you don't need a DT later.
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Throw theshim in as whatever you want.
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I guess then I'll have to volunteer as Astra the Healer (Upgradeable as Priest) or the Warlock. That said, the Class Change Stat Requirements is actually why I give Embodiment of Desires a slightly higher value as an Initial Emblem for the Main Character: Because how it affects dropped treasure (provided the enemy doesn't have a special equipment to drop), it gives a kickstart in piling up enough Stat Boosters to change class at lower levels than the natural growth of a Unit's Class would allow, specially when the goal is a Magic-oriented Class like with the "inconspicuous" Fire Chaotic Lady Soldier. AstraSage fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 15:07
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GilliamY the Knight, later on upgrading to Dragoon. As a side note, Snapdragoning is a-ok.
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I am ready to do your bidding, Master. Ninja
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So is "Scipplay's Staff" supposed to be a "Cypress Staff", or was the latter always supposed to be the former? And what the heck is a Scipplay, anyhow?
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Looper posted:Okay so I might have maybe figured out how to get enemy-only classes? Just putting that out there. Sorry about that.
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Register me as Tenshi, a Bane element Angel Knight.
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Yay yay more Ogre Battle yay  You've probably got enough recruits for now, but I'll throw my name in the ring too. Make it a Hawkman, and I guess just go with Loq since my whole name is too drat long.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:12
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What about using the runner up names from character creation? The Fonz is ready and willing to fight!
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I would like to be Arem, the hawkman. Because flying dudes rule in the Tactics games
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I played this game a lot in middle school. After seeing this thread pop up, I'm thinking maybe it would be good time to revisit it. Enlist me as Mallet if it pleases you. I would prefer the water element and Fairy class. I'm fine with being Snapdragon'd. Ice_Mallet fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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I'll throw down as Lot, preferably earth aligned. I beat this game but have forgotten a lot; can Chaotic characters be Dragoons? Then if you can swing it I'd like to be one of those with a Chaos alignment.
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Lotish posted:I'll throw down as Lot, preferably earth aligned. If memory serves, Dragoons are Neutral/Chaotic only, so you should be good.
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I'll join in as a Valkyrie. Air element and Lawful or Neutral alignment. Set the name to Laissez Faire, or Laissez for short.
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Hey guys, the next update may be a bit late because I'm kinda sorta out of town right now. Sorry!Grimpond posted:What about using the runner up names from character creation? The Fonz is ready and willing to fight! Glazius posted:So is "Scipplay's Staff" supposed to be a "Cypress Staff", or was the latter always supposed to be the former?  Huh.
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Can I get on this? Make the name Frisky or Briskly, just make me a priest. I don't really care about element so much.
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Man I wish I'd noticed this thread sooner. Tactics Ogre KoL was my first Ogre Saga game and will always have a special place in my heart. It's also the one I've hacked the most, but I was never able to do anything particularly interesting, like inserting Terror Knights as a usable class. I see nobody's asked to be a dragon yet. The Forgotten Beast Neurion has come! A large theropod with purple scales, it has a pair of thin wings. Beware it's Thunder Breath! And if it's not too much trouble, it'd be awesome if you used the dragon to acquire Grozz Nuy's Emblem via necromancy and reincarnation. Starting alignment can be anything, but ending with Chaotic for flight and Fear effects 
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I'll also sign up to be a dragon! Or a cockatrice if that's more use at the time! I don't know that much about the mechanics of this game, so whatever element, class, other options make me most useful for the game!
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Vespa 2: The Vespaning  Right then, first thing's first.    I apologize if changing anyone's gender offends them. There've been lady rabbis, right?  Alas, poor wallet.  Anyway, since we can't exactly afford new gear, some sacrifices have to be made.  Because equipment is tied to movement speed, naked ninjas are actually a viable strategic option! Not so much everyone else.  But yeah out with the old, in with the new!  Since letting him die is a Very Bad Idea, Merc gets the shiny new Dragon Shield, making him effectively invincible right now. But enough about equipment, we have work to- wait I already used this joke.  You wouldn't know it because I'm  Like this one. Fight It Out is reserved for story fights and sidequests, so guess what we just stumbled rear end-backwards into! Yes, if you decided to go shopping after the last battle, there's a very good chance you'll end up in Vespa again.  And that's the sitch. Rescue purple fairy from blonde fairies and company.  It...may be hard to tell you guys apart for a couple missions. Ivanna and Kamui come along because fighting seven lvl 4 enemies with a squad of lvl 1 guys would probably take a while!  Funnily enough, we don't actually have to protect Miss Tiny Fairy. I mean, we will because we aren't assholes, but yeah.    I wonder if we should give her a hand...?Mercury Loeher: kind of a dick?  Anyway, this is the first mission without a boss; we just have to murder everything.  We've got three Griffins, two Gremlins, and two Fairies to worry about. Basic plan here is to form some kind of defensive perimeter for our buddy to hide behind. Hold on a second, you might be thinking, what's the point of formations if every enemy can fly. And to that goon sir, I say shut up.  Tiny Fairy, to her credit, is decidedly unsuicidal. It helps that guests move first.  Aw yeah naked ninja ti-  Oh. No that's a silly idea.  Much better! Kamui doesn't need equipment to throw shuriken! Somehow?  Look at that nice wall. Surely this will prove vital toward fairy defense.  Or maybe it'll be completely unnecessary. Fairies (and gremlins) are the ultimate lightweights: they can't take hits but they can't dish them out either. And they use bows pretty much exclusively.  Pictured: the perfect defense. This is a very pleasant rescue mission. While it does serve as an introduction to flying units, most of them aren't dangerous at all, and being a fragile long-range unit herself, TF keeps well out of harms way. This revolutionary new advancement in escort mission technology would tragically come far too late in the saga of fighting ogres.  Anyway, these griffins are the main worry, being capable of consistent double-digit damage, but there are only three of them and we've got this one on lockdown.  And even if we didn't, Ivanna's got things covered.  And even if she didn't, the griffins aren't terribly threatening anyway! Despite the level difference, this mission's pretty not bad.  Despite the ease, the level difference still means Kamui is our biggest damage dealer (besides Mercury but that's a given).  Ugh no don't go over there. Flying enemies give no shits about such petty things as terrain and obstacles and can be a huge pain!  Noooo my perfect defense!  Seeing his strategy collapse so utterly, Mercury tries a different tactic.  Surely these crazed beasts share Mercury's passion for Jane Austen.  Atta'boy.  (that is totally a jump for joy!)Also I kinda sorta maybe made Merc a Beast Tamer for this mission. It makes a huge difference for persuading griffins!  And now we have a friend! It is interesting that persuaded enemies are not immediately added to your ranks. This is so you can keep utilizing the mechanic even if your squad's full, though it does mean you have to keep new (likely near death) friends alive. And they generally aren't as interested in self-preservation as our fairy friend.  As if to hammer home what Cubelley just avoided, J. Totes scores our first kill.  And is appropriately compensated.  Cubelley helps! A little bit. Griffins aren't that great.  Meanwhile Geese's been tracking down this stray fairy. They don't take hits well, but they also don't take many of them!  Geese makes a Han Solo joke on her face, but it isn't enough.  He finishes the job next turn, though! The moral was supposed to be "Don't attack fairies from the front," but I'm okay with this.  Rabbi was similarly dealing with this guy but, well, if there's one thing more annoying than running down enemy archers, it's running down enemy flying dodgy archers.  Eventually things start winding down.  Incidentally, one really cool thing about bows is that they can actually hit beyond their visible range!  At the cost of accuracy, but still, an archer with a good height advantage can be kinda useful.  Anyway, that's that.  And my poor wallet yet aches.  Provided you have the room, persuaded enemies will offer to officially join you after battle. I have a hard time turning people away.  ---  Because there are so many beasts here, it's dangerous to be on this island. Note, not this area, the entire island!  I just came from the forest, so I'm not used to the outside world. If possible, may I join you? I'm looking for my sister. Alright, you can come. But... don't do anything dangerous.  Thanks! We'll have plenty of time to get to know each other. Oh, my sister's name is Lubina. She ran away from the forest where we live because she thought it was boring there. Well that's as good a reason as any!  That's some pretty good equipment! And that's the thing about Glycinia. See, her sidequest isn't guaranteed to come up when you pass Vespa, and if you don't go back to town, you won't see it at all. She actually shows up in many different locations that change as you progress through the storyline, so you can't permanently miss her. That said, her equipment changes quite a bit depending on when you find her. What we have now is definitely good for where we are, but some of the stuff you can get from her at the end up the game can't really be gotten any other way. This includes the best bow, which kinda sucks! Oh well!  Anyway, next time we're finally going to Formido for real. Stuff will happen! It'll be exciting! --- Glycinia Official Art 
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Oh hey, Water start. I should have specified; that's exactly what I would have picked. ...Though I suspect you knew that from a certain other LP.
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Argh all our goth! It's so bloody hard to make money early in the game that I find it to be a bit of a balancing act between recruiting the characters I want and keeping them properly equipped.
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If you persuade human enemies to join you during battle and sell off their equipment you can sometimes double the money you get from random encounters. Unfortunately, that is still not much at all.
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Eh, I'm a gay man in a very conservative southern town. I've been called worse. As long as you make me a Valkyrie (that's the good female physical class in this series right? I don't know these games)
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Eh, I'm a gay man in a very conservative southern town. I've been called worse. As long as you make me a Valkyrie (that's the good female physical class in this series right? I don't know these games) Females can be knights as well!
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Neurion posted:Females can be knights as well! After a while though Knights really start getting outclassed by some of the male only physical classes. Female characters get a little hosed in Knight of Lodis since they have 1 or 2 decent magic classes compared to the 3 or so physical heavy male only classes who are absolute monsters.
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TARDISman posted:After a while though Knights really start getting outclassed by some of the male only physical classes. Female characters get a little hosed in Knight of Lodis since they have 1 or 2 decent magic classes compared to the 3 or so physical heavy male only classes who are absolute monsters. Hoping that stats won't count as spoilers here, but from the documentation I've seen Knights actually have basically the best physically oriented stat growth in the game. Other classes might have better skills, movement and equipment so you'd want to use them for fights, but for leveling up physical characters Knight is almost always the way to go. Looper, thanks for following through with using Goon characters already! Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about all the different classes/units. Think you'd want to show off each Goons' fortune when you hire them, or would that be too depressing?
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Yeah the problem with Knights isn't that they can't keep up - hell, a team made entirely of Knights can get you through the game easily - but they're boring as hell. All the other classes are more interesting. Knights just attack and heal with solid stats.
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I find Knights are best used as a transitional class to Swordmasters and Valkyries. They're not meant for long term viability, and it shows by how badly Ivanna starts to fall behind the rest of your party.
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I do like the boosted range on bows if you've got a height advantage. Does the AI realize that?
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Glazius posted:I do like the boosted range on bows if you've got a height advantage. Does the AI realize that? The AI pretty much abuses the range boost when the enemy side starts with a height advantage... And the Enemy Side gets the height upperhand in a lot of story battles.
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Hey, the update is incoming! The first half of my recording disappeared into the aether so you may notice some dimensional anomalies. CatsPajamas posted:Think you'd want to show off each Goons' fortune when you hire them, or would that be too depressing? Maybe! I wasn't going to spend much time on fortunes because they're an obtuse and easily ignorable game mechanic, but I can definitely include them for Team Status listings and such. vvv It is 8 for each side, though Guests and persuaded enemies can bring that number up to silly levels. Looper fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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I forget: How many dudes and dudettes can you field at a time? I remember in LUCT it was ten, and I love that because it makes things feel so much bigger when you can actually bring and appreciably sized force to bear on a situation.
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It's something like 8, but I'm too used to FFT so I never used more than 5 or 6, the other 2 were filled with brick wall monsters.
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Formido Alright, here we go, for real this time!  Wait hold on a second.  Before now, all our battles have been in somewhat wide-open areas. That changes here, and as such, the extra point of movement Merc gets as a ninja is definitely worth the ten point drop in defense.       The ones sent from Felis at the request of the South? I hired pirates to attack them, but some survived and made it ashore. Grimal, use the troops stationed here to protect this fortress. Yes, sir... But how about you, Commander Briffaut? That young lass's calling me. She'll be mad if I don't come soon.  JRPGs! They're making fools of us! Abandon this fortress and withdraw to Naja immediately. Otherwise...I bet he's always wanted to say something like that. Commander Briffaut, look! They're here already? Much earlier than anticipated! This fortress is critical to movement in the South. It's up to you, Grimal!!! Are you running away? Don't you have any guts?! Shut up, kid. I have no time for you. Remember, I'm Nichart Briffaut, the leader of the White Fang Troops. It's kinda cute seeing Mercury try the same kind of taunts he fell for like a week ago.  So we have an actually somewhat balanced enemy force! Three soldiers, two archers, a wizard, a cleric, and a knight. Thankfully Grimal doesn't subscribe to the same school as Ivanna, so we only have one healer to deal with.  The enemy also has a much better position than us. There are two routes up the fortress, but the other is across the moat/pond and isn't worth the effort, plus our team's a little too weak to split in half right now anyway. The main goal is just to get up onto even footing as fast as possible, which'll be easy since we don't have any mages. Kamui and Ivanna are reprising their earlier roles, and Glycinia is coming along for a secret mission.  Also also, a cool thing about this game that I haven't mentioned yet is that enemy levels all scale to Mercury's. Bosses will be two levels higher and everyone else will be as strong as him. This can be easily exploited by just not using your main character, but c'mon that's no fun!  Some of the early battle themes are pretty bad (like the one for training), but most are good stuff, especially considering the system.  A kid like you is the leader? Luck's been on your side so far, but that ends here! Rain begins to fall once Grimal brings up the disturbing correlation between religious armies and child soldiers.  More importantly, Mercury shows off his ninja speed and gets things started on the first turn.  While J. Totes shows off what happens when you fire a bow uphill. I believe inclement weather also negatively influences arching accuracy.  Cut to the next turn, where Deneb's decided to take Lodis' soldier shortage into her own hands.     Vixen's Whisper emblem acquired.  Nice! This ladies-only emblem is given simply for persuading one human male and is a requirement for the Witch class. There is a men-only equivalent! It's kind of sad.  A very real hazard of persuading enemies is that it can make your side a huge crowded mess.  This poor soldier doesn't have any idea what he's doing.  Book of Initiation emblem acquired.Lots of archers + lots of rain means Deneb getting three dodges in a row is cake. This mission is pretty much Emblem Central.  Our main threat here is, surprisingly, not Grimal. His hits hurt, but he's also easy to distract with Ivanna and Mercury. Mr. Wizard's a bit more annoying.  Anyway, Glycinia's close enough now to accomplish her mission.  wait a minute you aren't authorized to be here  Acquired buried Dragon Gem Sword. ANYWAY, the second big buried treasure is coincidentally also a dragon item. We now have a Dragon Shield, a Dragon Gem (from Glycinia), and a Dragon Gem Sword. There's a staircase off to the left, so you don't need a flying unit to get up here, but wings do make it much easier.  Things are also becoming less of a huge mess downstairs. Both those archers are almost dead.  Or, one is. Enemies shouldn't be allowed to have healers!  Mercury and Kamui head over to deal with that.  Hold on, something weird's coming up on radar...  Uh  Well, that was weird! Anyway, it stopped raining as hard, some people shuffled around, and Samus is dead, but we're back!  I still don't like archers that much, but J. Totes is getting some great mileage out of that bow.  After all, the quickest way to neutralize healers is to make them heal themselves.  Even without the rain, this time it's Rabbi getting her initiation on.  I haven't really talked about items much. Most of them are for healing or stat-raising. There aren't any item throwers or anything like that in KoL, so magic is still your best bet, but a healing leaf is still handy in a pinch. Magic restoratives are actually extremely good, but we'll get to that.  That wizard's still dropping rocks on people. As mentioned before, AoE spells can completely ignore pesky obstacles like ninjas and your teammates.  And of course, enemies will gladly eat grass, too. I'm actually not sure if there's a limit to enemy inventories; they won't usually spam items anyway.  Glycinia's helping!  While Rabbi kneecaps that wizard.  Deneb keeps on . Unfortunately her charms aren't so effective on non-soldiers. Finally the wizard goes down.   Mercury moves in to whack the cleric and also grab a free spell.  Emblems everywhere! This time for Kamui.  Now here, I was kind of excited because it's the perfect opportunity to show off fall damage.  But then Deneb's fanclub decided to help. Oh well!  Rabbi kneecaps the cleric to death.  And Deneb finishes the archer. Persuasion is fun, but it doesn't pay the experience bills.  So Geese decides to try his hand instead.  And gets a sword to the face for his trouble.  Thankfully J. Totes is there to pick up the slack.  If being a walking pile of armor wasn't enough of a hint, magic is the way to go against knights.  More emblems! Sniper requires 5 successful bow attacks in a row. Instead of being a requirement for Archers, it just boosts your Agility by 10. That's two levels for most of our team!  This is a silly number of soldiers.  Wait Buzz what are you doing  Buzz nooooo!   He fell with style. Note that because he wasn't officially on the team, he still drops his enemy item and can't be revived. Not that I would anyway, sucker!  Anyway, Grimal falls that turn. Curse you, kid... Actual money! And a spell I'll never use, but money!   Someone already mentioned this, but stolen enemies do keep their gear and make a decent source of money early on. Welcome to the bench! We also get one other thing.  Each text you acquire will open a new area in Quest Mode where you can explore/earn treasure. ...later.  No. I don't recognize him. Maybe he joined after I left. But, what happened to Rictor? Well...we have no choice. We're going in.Ivanna you could not make yourself more suspicious. If she's not around, Mercury just blithely wonders the same thing to himself. ---      Welp. ---  Where am I...?  Heheh. Like the view, kid? You coward!!! What a dirty trick!!! Did you think I got scared and hightailed it out of here? It's your fault for letting your guard down after defeating Grimal. I feel sorry for him, but at least he bought me some time. Everything's going as planned. I know, I know. Don't be so uptight. Well, tell me, knight of Lodis... What are Lodis' true intentions? ...Intentions...? Right. The true reason why the troops of Felis were sent here. When Lodis takes action, there's always something they're after.Nichart's played other OB games. Reason? It was a request from the South... Don't play dumb. You say that the South requested help, but has Felis ever sent troops for such a thing before? I don't understand... Let me go! Release me!!! You're so hot-tempered, kid. You still snap at us even in chains. Do you realize the situation you're in? Spoilers: Nichart isn't a beast tamer! Ugh...ugh...huff... This all began by your aggression! Lord Naris has ordered us to find out the real reason for your presence here. If you wish to be freed, then talk.  This is the part where Rictor dramatically breaks in for the rescue! Right? Buddy?  What's your true purpose here?! Ugh... I told you... I don't know... Commander Briffaut, perhaps he really doesn't know. Of course, he may just be strong-willed. In which case, I have no choice... (giggle) Just a potion. This'll make him talk, but he won't feel so well when he wakes up.  ---    Merc finally notices the shadowy figure in the doorway.   All the soldiers have left. That means you're alone.  If you cooperate, I'll set you free. What do you think? You're going to save me?Dude I know you were just magic-roofied, tortured, and drugged, but c'mon pay attention. That depends on your answer. I don't care if you die here or not. Alright. I'll do as you ask, but... I'm concerned about my comrades. Don't worry, they are safe. My name is Cybil Alinda. I enjoyed watching your fight today. Don't forget, we have a deal now!---    All the soldiers stationed at the ruins retreated to the north.Oh, well so much for tactical importance. It seems I should've been more careful. What happened to the troops that were supposed to attack from the south? They entered the Forest of Gryllus, but retreated to Scabellum. I have no idea why. Keep this in mind! I wonder what happened... Yes, Commander.  Unfortunately ninjaporting isn't an actual ability. And...what should I do? Rest for a while. We will cross the Meleagris Mountains at dawn. The Meleagris Mountains? But why? I'll tell you later.  Your fate is in my hands now. ---  Well that was an awful lot of ominous stuff. Huh. Anyway, next time we'll be getting our feet wet. Oh boy! 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I like that track; just feels really atmospheric to me. There's another early track that sounds like bagpipes through a meat grinder, and I like that one too. Just got a thing for chiptunes, I guess. And Hitoshi Sakimoto.
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♪ I just gotta get out of this prison cell ♪ ♪ Someday I'm gonna be freee ♪ Looper posted:
Awww yeah. Quest Mode's gonna solve all of our problems! ...once we're a high enough level to survive the first map, anyways.
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As someone who has recently gotten into Spelunky, you receiving a soldier automatically named Mansel is irrationally amusing to me  (in Spelunky, a "mansel" is a male equivalent of a Damsel In Distress and looks something like this) Also: yeah this game gets pretty dark pretty quick with its onscreen depictions of torture, huh 
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