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HappyKitty
Jul 11, 2005

OP should have checked their posting privilege

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SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
the argument against "privilege" as applying to groups instead of individuals is that its a nebulous concept that denies dimensions of experience and background when convenient and makes them critical when it will support an argument. which is the point of the concept as currently used since it was invented in order to shore up the concept of equality when there are no allowed explanations for continued disparate outcomes besides an ineffable conspiracy. its a pseudo-religious ever-shifting concept that was created to "explain" the data without being capable of being disproved or argued against.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax

DrManiac posted:

Why are white guys such whiny loving babies? I'd take a "check your privilege" in a heartbeat if I got the best jobs, the most money, and no discrimination.

Maoist Pussy posted:

Dude is annoying but the projectile diarrhea spray of Social Justice on ivy league campuses would break anyone's brain

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

NecroMonster posted:

funny "did not read" gif here

I was disappointed in this thread when I saw that the first post wasn't that .gif of a wookiee captioned with "Suck My Cock!".

myshl0ng
Feb 19, 2011

ooh, i've been a bad little poster!
"why are white guys such loving whiny babies" - white liberal arts guy

p.crestmont
Feb 17, 2012
Tab Fartstrong rules.

Boombox Jackson
Nov 3, 2008
Turd Fartgong

Job Creator
Apr 3, 2009

Im gonna take a ride down to appalachia and tell those whites to check their privilege :smug:

sasurai
Aug 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 672 days!

EugeneJ posted:

This kid has more Jew Entitlement than White Entitlement

yeah he has gritty jewish ancestor privilege. he doesnt know what its like to be raised by losers

edit: mods rename me Hitlers Weltanschauung

sasurai fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 1, 2014

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
gonna haze the poo poo outta these kiddos

say no to bats
Aug 15, 2001
Rumblee tumblee, climin' a hunny tree
888 didn't read poo poo.

Nick Rivers
Nov 23, 2004
check

your

loving

privilege

-this forum unironically 7 months ago

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008
It just occurred to me that it must really loving suck rear end to be a college student these days with everyone screaming about mis-gendering and privilege and poo poo.

Sorry kids, shoulda' been born earlier!

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi

Job Creator posted:

Im gonna take a ride down to appalachia and tell those whites to check their privilege :smug:

privilege is an intersectional concept

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics

Biggie Shorty posted:

It just occurred to me that it must really loving suck rear end to be a college student these days with everyone screaming about mis-gendering and privilege and poo poo.

Sorry kids, shoulda' been born earlier!

it owns to be young actually. basically nobody does that poo poo irl and we have the best games and music

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
How do people itt define whiteness? I prefer the paper test myself. Though I hear the one-drop rule is apparently popular as well.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Princeton is like the trailer park of the ivy league.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
What are these people saying that results in people telling them to check their privilege? I've never heard this poo poo in real life.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Animal-Mother posted:

What are these people saying that results in people telling them to check their privilege? I've never heard this poo poo in real life.

"Hard work got me to where I am today."

landy.
Jan 20, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Powercrazy posted:

How do people itt define whiteness? I prefer the paper test myself. Though I hear the one-drop rule is apparently popular as well.

If you can't jokingly call them racist without them getting offended, then they are definitely white.

Sauska
Sep 12, 2012

sasurai posted:

Attention Whore gbs thread flowchart

-user Attention Whore reposts interesting but long as hell wall of text using attention tag
-some nerds come in to firstpost the thread with "tl;dr" and make jokes about the thread title
-thread gains visibility thanks to nerds bumping the topic
-people start to discuss the content in the op
-discussion goes on for several more pages interspersed with occasional emptyquote of the original tl;dr posts

interesting?

Kleen_TheRacistDog
Feb 17, 2014

Can't bust the Krust fuckman
www.skullmund.com

keyvin posted:

Princeton is like the trailer park of the ivy league.
no, that would be Cornell.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

keyvin posted:

"Hard work got me to where I am today."

Whoah, hey, trigger warning, pal.

KernelSlanders
May 27, 2013

Rogue operating systems on occasion spread lies and rumors about me.
lol at Princeton students whining over which other Princeton students are more privileged-- tal and his "oppressors"





lol at Princeton students whining

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Gaunab posted:

So you're saying that the Irish, which I only identify myself as when it's convenient, weren't stigmatized in this country?

the irish were not considered white in the past. there were even racial studies to "prove" they were inferior to all other light skinned peoples

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
throw this jew down the well

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

Animal-Mother posted:

What are these people saying that results in people telling them to check their privilege? I've never heard this poo poo in real life.

did u even read the article?

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

gonna go to my high paying low effort job and order asian fusion for lunch, later nerds *climbs into prewarmed car seat*

Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

BKPR posted:

gonna go to my high paying low effort job and order asian fusion for lunch, later nerds *climbs into prewarmed car seat*

not as high paying as my seat warming job
not as low effort as this post :smug:

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp

Animal-Mother posted:

What are these people saying that results in people telling them to check their privilege? I've never heard this poo poo in real life.

No, because "check your privilege" means "shut your mouth."

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
The reason this douchebag is a 20-year old freshman is that upper-class families will regularly have their kids held back a year in private elementary schools so they can dominate lacrosse at prep schools.

http://deadspin.com/why-rich-lacrosse-parents-are-making-their-kids-repeat-1570381983

Setzer Gabbiani
Oct 13, 2004

keyvin posted:

"Hard work got me to where I am today."

Yes but bootstraps dunning kruger sunken cost fallacy qed

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

The guy has a point at least.

I didn't read it so I don't know what it is but with something that long he had to at least have said something right eventually.

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp
There's no real difference between saying "he got where he is because of White Privilege" and "he got where he is because of Affirmative Action." They're both poor assumptions made based solely on the color of someone's skin. They're both assumptions that are demeaning, and belittle the hard work the person probably made to get to their position in life.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Animal-Mother posted:

What are these people saying that results in people telling them to check their privilege? I've never heard this poo poo in real life.

It's a modern trend that essentially boils down to unilaterally telling people that their experiences don't matter if they benefit from certain societal privileges that ignores thing such as economic success being more determined by your parent's class than race.

Wank
Apr 26, 2008
"How can I be privileged? I am a jew!"

quakster
Jul 21, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
if you're in a position to tell other people how privileged they are, you're part of the problem

if you go around doing it irl, especially to people you've just met, your judgment has been compromised and you need to be eliminated. report your location and serial number immediately

A Keg
Jan 7, 2014

by Ralp

Attention Whore posted:

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/17230/

He’s 20, he’s white, and he’s a freshman at Princeton University.

According to the ethnic and feminist studies college students and professors who frequently and vehemently complain that this country is steeped in racism and sexism and is only fair and just and equal for white, heterosexual males – he is the poster child for so-called “White Privilege.”

His name is Tal Fortgang, and just eight months into his Ivy League experience, he’s been told on numerous occasions to “check his privilege” – a phrase that has taken social media social justice campaigning by storm.

It is meant to remind white, heterosexual males that they have it so good because they’re white, heterosexual males. They haven’t faced tough times, they don’t know what it’s like to be judged by the color of their skin.

Oh, but they do.

Those sick of being labeled are the very same ones doing it to others, and Tal Fortgang has a powerful message for them:

There is a phrase that floats around college campuses, Princeton being no exception, that threatens to strike down opinions without regard for their merits, but rather solely on the basis of the person that voiced them. “Check your privilege,” the saying goes, and I have been reprimanded by it several times this year. The phrase, handed down by my moral superiors, descends recklessly, like an Obama-sanctioned drone, and aims laser-like at my pinkish-peach complexion, my maleness, and the nerve I displayed in offering an opinion rooted in a personal Weltanschauung. “Check your privilege,” they tell me in a command that teeters between an imposition to actually explore how I got where I am, and a reminder that I ought to feel personally apologetic because white males seem to pull most of the strings in the world.

I do not accuse those who “check” me and my perspective of overt racism, although the phrase, which assumes that simply because I belong to a certain ethnic group I should be judged collectively with it, toes that line. But I do condemn them for diminishing everything I have personally accomplished, all the hard work I have done in my life, and for ascribing all the fruit I reap not to the seeds I sow but to some invisible patron saint of white maleness who places it out for me before I even arrive. Furthermore, I condemn them for casting the equal protection clause, indeed the very idea of a meritocracy, as a myth, and for declaring that we are all governed by invisible forces (some would call them “stigmas” or “societal norms”), that our nation runs on racist and sexist conspiracies. Forget “you didn’t build that;” check your privilege and realize that nothing you have accomplished is real.

But they can’t be telling me that everything I’ve done with my life can be credited to the racist patriarchy holding my hand throughout my years of education and eventually guiding me into Princeton. Even that is too extreme. So to find out what they are saying, I decided to take their advice. I actually went and checked the origins of my privileged existence, to empathize with those whose underdog stories I can’t possibly comprehend. I have unearthed some examples of the privilege with which my family was blessed, and now I think I better understand those who assure me that skin color allowed my family and I to flourish today.

Perhaps it’s the privilege my grandfather and his brother had to flee their home as teenagers when the Nazis invaded Poland, leaving their mother and five younger siblings behind, running and running until they reached a Displaced Persons camp in Siberia, where they would do years of hard labor in the bitter cold until World War II ended. Maybe it was the privilege my grandfather had of taking on the local Rabbi’s work in that DP camp, telling him that the spiritual leader shouldn’t do hard work, but should save his energy to pass Jewish tradition along to those who might survive. Perhaps it was the privilege my great-grandmother and those five great-aunts and uncles I never knew had of being shot into an open grave outside their hometown. Maybe that’s my privilege.

Or maybe it’s the privilege my grandmother had of spending weeks upon weeks on a death march through Polish forests in subzero temperatures, one of just a handful to survive, only to be put in Bergen-Belsen concentration camp where she would have died but for the Allied forces who liberated her and helped her regain her health when her weight dwindled to barely 80 pounds.

Perhaps my privilege is that those two resilient individuals came to America with no money and no English, obtained citizenship, learned the language and met each other; that my grandfather started a humble wicker basket business with nothing but long hours, an idea, and an iron will—to paraphrase the man I never met: “I escaped Hitler. Some business troubles are going to ruin me?” Maybe my privilege is that they worked hard enough to raise four children, and to send them to Jewish day school and eventually City College.

Perhaps it was my privilege that my own father worked hard enough in City College to earn a spot at a top graduate school, got a good job, and for 25 years got up well before the crack of dawn, sacrificing precious time he wanted to spend with those he valued most—his wife and kids—to earn that living. I can say with certainty there was no legacy involved in any of his accomplishments. The wicker business just isn’t that influential. Now would you say that we’ve been really privileged? That our success has been gift-wrapped?

That’s the problem with calling someone out for the “privilege” which you assume has defined their narrative. You don’t know what their struggles have been, what they may have gone through to be where they are. Assuming they’ve benefitted from “power systems” or other conspiratorial imaginary institutions denies them credit for all they’ve done, things of which you may not even conceive. You don’t know whose father died defending your freedom. You don’t know whose mother escaped oppression. You don’t know who conquered their demons, or may still conquering them now.

The truth is, though, that I have been exceptionally privileged in my life, albeit not in the way any detractors would have it.

It has been my distinct privilege that my grandparents came to America. First, that there was a place at all that would take them from the ruins of Europe. And second, that such a place was one where they could legally enter, learn the language, and acclimate to a society that ultimately allowed them to flourish.

It was their privilege to come to a country that grants equal protection under the law to its citizens, that cares not about religion or race, but the content of your character.

It was my privilege that my grandfather was blessed with resolve and an entrepreneurial spirit, and that he was lucky enough to come to the place where he could realize the dream of giving his children a better life than he had.

But far more important for me than his attributes was the legacy he sought to pass along, which forms the basis of what detractors call my “privilege,” but which actually should be praised as one of altruism and self-sacrifice. Those who came before us suffered for the sake of giving us a better life. When we similarly sacrifice for our descendents by caring for the planet, it’s called “environmentalism,” and is applauded. But when we do it by passing along property and a set of values, it’s called “privilege.” (And when we do it by raising questions about our crippling national debt, we’re called Tea Party radicals.) Such sacrifice of any form shouldn’t be scorned, but admired.

My exploration did yield some results. I recognize that it was my parents’ privilege and now my own that there is such a thing as an American dream which is attainable even for a penniless Jewish immigrant.

I am privileged that values like faith and education were passed along to me. My grandparents played an active role in my parents’ education, and some of my earliest memories included learning the Hebrew alphabet with my Dad. It’s been made clear to me that education begins in the home, and the importance of parents’ involvement with their kids’ education—from mathematics to morality—cannot be overstated. It’s not a matter of white or black, male or female or any other division which we seek, but a matter of the values we pass along, the legacy we leave, that perpetuates “privilege.” And there’s nothing wrong with that.

Behind every success, large or small, there is a story, and it isn’t always told by sex or skin color. My appearance certainly doesn’t tell the whole story, and to assume that it does and that I should apologize for it is insulting. While I haven’t done everything for myself up to this point in my life, someone sacrificed themselves so that I can lead a better life. But that is a legacy I am proud of.

I have checked my privilege. And I apologize for nothing.

somebody should dump his books

YOSPOS King
Apr 14, 2014

by XyloJW
A few months ago I had a breakdown after a recurring theme in my life resurfaced for perhaps the most volatile time. In 2010 I was a freshman, and as freshman do I got extremely drunk with friends and went to Denny's. A black 21 year old had come in with his group and was very vocal. I was a loud mouthed punk and was always looking to tell any joke whether or not it was good. I just wanted to be the guy who had the first jokes so people just associated me with being funny. This was a crutch for my crippling social anxiety that my therapist had recommended to me before college. I had made friends over Halo: ODST's co-op campaign and we were eating and talking about slaying grunts. The black was turning 21 and was getting his trust fund the next day. I immediately started yelling about "Black Jesus." One of the girls with us who was also a gamer had grabbed me under the table and told me to stop saying that poo poo like that. I grabbed my onions rings and had started smashing them in my hands with as much force. I started flipping peoples plates over at the table because the black guy said he was buying us our meal, and I was positive that this meant nothing mattered. I was kicked out of the Denny's and my picture was put on the wall. Past weekend, my girlfriend's parents took us out to dinner and I had brought a one hitter of DMT to hit up in the bathroom stalls. I did it quick and was high as hell within minutes. I don't remember any of it but this week my girlfriend wants to spend some time apart while she stays with her parents. Supposedly I freaked out and was yelling at a black man I was certain had purchased a prior me and insisted we pay his tab. I put a hole through the gun all machine with my fist to get the tinfoil gimbal for free buttermilk pancakes. My picture got put on the wall and right hand is incredibly swollen which has absolutely destroyed my grip on the rokkat mouse I had recently purchased as an upgrade for my rig so I'm stuck watching Starcraft II streams instead of playing.

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Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams

gently caress the ROW posted:

its a really toxic idea of privilege and what you're supposed to do with it, and it does affect people in real life. imagine the hosed up retard poo poo you see online, in high school and colleges. Like all the faggy rear end goons that post in d&d, how messed up they got with some of these ideas and end up spending 12 hours a day telling people about their privilege, lack of it, or whatever, and as a result completely squandering the same privilege they had in the first place. That poo poo happens in real life

Go post in D&D about it because drat like every post from you is about that goddamned forum I remember you actually had great posts in it once

WHY IS GBS NOT PRETTY ENOUGH FOR YOU ROW

Edit: I've actually been privilege checked IRL it's pretty bad

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