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Cao Ni Ma posted:You didnt answer me, how would you implement mouse control in this game? by launching ragnarok.exe obvs
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Okay, so clearly no one in this thread has played an action RPG before. The extent of the gaming among you guys appears to be binding of Issac. So I can understand how the use of keyboard/mouse might seem really confusing. I don't know how to describe it, but I recommend playing the demo for Diablo III, or there's Path of Exile if you want an idea of how mouse controls would benefit a game like this. Maybe i'm just missing something, but the idea of no mouse support in a game like this sounds really unplayable to me. All of the old MMORPGs i've played where mouse support was very limited, were a chore to play and very frustrating.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:03
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gently caress off retard
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Mar 13, 2015 15:10
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RottenK posted:gently caress off retard lmao relax
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Mar 13, 2015 15:16
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Bread Set Jettison posted:lmao relax alright
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Mar 13, 2015 15:18
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RottenK posted:gently caress off retard That's a lot of hostility just to blindly defend a Korean MMO.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:20
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I said come in! posted:That's a lot of hostility just to blindly defend a Korean MMO. i have no opinion on this game because i have not played it yet and did not see any non-edited gameplay video
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Mar 13, 2015 15:23
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Yeah idk how its hard to imagine a mouse-keyboard control scheme since poo poo like diablo exists
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Mar 13, 2015 15:27
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Yeah idk how its hard to imagine a mouse-keyboard control scheme since poo poo like diablo exists loving thank you, I actually thought I was starting to go nuts and was missing something super obvious because i'm such a lovely human being.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:30
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I said come in! posted:Okay, so clearly no one in this thread has played an action RPG before. The extent of the gaming among you guys appears to be binding of Issac. So I can understand how the use of keyboard/mouse might seem really confusing. I don't know how to describe it, but I recommend playing the demo for Diablo III, or there's Path of Exile if you want an idea of how mouse controls would benefit a game like this. If you don't like the Binding of Isaac comparison, how about A Link to the Past, Secret of Mana/Evermore, Gauntlet? Wayward Souls came out recently and Hyper Light Drifter had a pretty successful Kickstarter too.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:38
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I said come in! posted:loving thank you, I actually thought I was starting to go nuts and was missing something super obvious because i'm such a lovely human being. You're still a lovely human being since you threw a fit because you couldn't imagine an arpg that's not literaly Diablo, hth.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:41
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I'd play a diablo clone where you can move with keys and cast in the opposite direction with your mouse. Does diablo do that, or is it still that lovely mouse only ordeal?
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Mar 13, 2015 15:54
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Arzachel posted:You're still a lovely human being since you threw a fit because you couldn't imagine an arpg that's not literaly Diablo, hth. Mean while people in this thread are throwing a fit at the idea of an arpg having mouse controls. You're loving absurd if you think i'm actually throwing a fit though. Arzachel posted:If you don't like the Binding of Isaac comparison, how about A Link to the Past, Secret of Mana/Evermore, Gauntlet? Wayward Souls came out recently and Hyper Light Drifter had a pretty successful Kickstarter too. None of these are MMOs. They have very simplified menus and no need for anything more then a handful of buttons. Truga posted:I'd play a diablo clone where you can move with keys and cast in the opposite direction with your mouse. Does diablo do that, or is it still that lovely mouse only ordeal? I think the console version is kinda like that. I haven't played that one though.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:55
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I said come in! posted:None of these are MMOs. They have very simplified menus and no need for anything more then a handful of buttons.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:28
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Arzachel posted:You know that menu interaction is done with the mouse, right? There's nothing better than having to keep switching controls between actually playing the game and menus. Being inconvenienced is the epitome of the mmo experience, I guess. Sorry, but he's right. Not having mouse controls is very loving strange. The fact that the devs "couldn't make it work" is also very loving strange.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:34
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You guys do realize if there's keyboard control you can pretty easily map it to a controller with Joy2Key or something like that, if for whatever reason they don't implement controller support. People do it in DFO all the time. I mean it's not a mouse but if keyboard control REALLY bothers you then it's an alternative.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:35
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cathead posted:You guys do realize if there's keyboard control you can pretty easily map it to a controller with Joy2Key or something like that, if for whatever reason they don't implement controller support. People do it in DFO all the time. Is it really that hard to understand why it's so weird that there's no mouse controls? Is this the twilight zone?
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Mar 13, 2015 18:48
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I said come in! posted:Okay, so clearly no one in this thread has played an action RPG before. The extent of the gaming among you guys appears to be binding of Issac. So I can understand how the use of keyboard/mouse might seem really confusing. I don't know how to describe it, but I recommend playing the demo for Diablo III, or there's Path of Exile if you want an idea of how mouse controls would benefit a game like this. Does diablo have strafing? Like can you shoot at a monster while moving in different directions. Cause if you cant then there goes 1/4 of the classes in the game because everything stemming from archers need that. Most of the classes stemming from mages also have mechanics that are completely unwieldy with a mouse, like the ball abilities that need players to face in a particular direction to hit it in that angle. Things like the formation abilities from one of the warrior classes would also be entirely unwieldy with a mouse. Honestly the problem is that you are looking at it like an ARPG and not something like a mana or zelda.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:49
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Does diablo have strafing? Like can you shoot at a monster while moving in different directions. Cause if you cant then there goes 1/4 of the classes in the game because everything stemming from archers need that. Most of the classes stemming from mages also have mechanics that are completely unwieldy with a mouse, like the ball abilities that need players to face in a particular direction to hit it in that angle. Things like the formation abilities from one of the warrior classes would also be entirely unwieldy with a mouse. How do you strafe with the controls they've shown, then? Strafing would require movement with wasd or arrow keys or something and then facing with the mouse. The controls they've shown are up, down, left, right, and z and x for attacking. You can't strafe with that. I don't remember being able to strafe in zelda, either.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:52
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Bauxite posted:How do you strafe with the controls they've shown, then? Strafing would require movement with wasd or arrow keys or something and then facing with the mouse. The controls they've shown are up, down, left, right, and z and x for attacking. You can't strafe with that. I don't remember being able to strafe in zelda, either. You can lock into enemies with an archer class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IImz4h20GF4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCo7sQXHrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2NvgYRNE8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IImz4h20GF4 Look at the classes and the gameplay and say "Yes this is a diablo like"
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Mar 13, 2015 18:57
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Why is there no mouse control in Super Mario World? Why is there no mouse control in Dance Dance Revolution? Why is there no mouse control in Mortal Kombat? Why is ther no mouse control in Touhou?
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Mar 13, 2015 19:02
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Bauxite posted:Is it really that hard to understand why it's so weird that there's no mouse controls? Is this the twilight zone? No? I mean I think it's kind of weird too but I was just offering an alternative suggestion!
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Mar 13, 2015 19:02
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Cao Ni Ma posted:You can lock into enemies with an archer class. Nice way to load your question. I've already seen all of the videos for it, because believe it or not I want to play this game too, and I assumed that the mouse is involved somewhere. Like, archer wouldn't have to lock on if you used the mouse to face and moved with wasd. Is it really so hard to understand why someone would assume that and be confused by it not being that way?
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Mar 13, 2015 19:16
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Bauxite posted:Nice way to load your question. I've already seen all of the videos for it, because believe it or not I want to play this game too, and I assumed that the mouse is involved somewhere. Like, archer wouldn't have to lock on if you used the mouse to face and moved with wasd. Is it really so hard to understand why someone would assume that and be confused by it not being that way? So you though the mouse was for facing/probably 2 attacks max right? Not like an arpg where you move and attack by clicking poo poo?
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Mar 13, 2015 19:28
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Mouse control would be very easy for this game to do but they arent doing that so whatever I guess
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Mar 13, 2015 19:33
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I'd really like to throw a fit with the rest of you guys about this slight against our precious mice but I'll probably just wait to play it to see if the controls are awful or not before endlessly bitching.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:20
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Cao Ni Ma posted:So you though the mouse was for facing/probably 2 attacks max right? Not like an arpg where you move and attack by clicking poo poo? I'll answer with a question: in which way is this game not an ARPG? I'll give you a hint, ARPG =/= diablolike.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:47
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Bauxite posted:I'll answer with a question: in which way is this game not an ARPG? I'll give you a hint, ARPG =/= diablolike. Uuhhhh why does this matter? The people arguing about mouse control specifically mention that the game would work with a point and click type control like diablolikes and RO.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:00
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Oh my god who cares
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Mar 13, 2015 21:01
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Oh my god who cares Pesterchum posted:I'd really like to throw a fit with the rest of you guys about this slight against our precious mice but I'll probably just wait to play it to see if the controls are awful or not before endlessly bitching.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:13
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Pesterchum posted:I'd really like to throw a fit with the rest of you guys about this slight against our precious mice but I'll probably just wait to play it to see if the controls are awful or not before endlessly bitching. Woah now. I'm gonna have to ask you to stop being so reasonable.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:25
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I'll bet it won't have oculus rift support either, this really grinds my gears. The game in my imagination has rift support and it not having it ruins everything!
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Mar 13, 2015 21:28
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Pesterchum posted:I'll bet it won't have oculus rift support either, this really grinds my gears. The game in my imagination has rift support and it not having it ruins everything! If I can't see the anime hats in 3D the game is terrible. Get on it, IMCgames!
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Mar 13, 2015 22:05
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If people care half as much about this game as they do about ragnarok online, there will be mouse control third party programs pretty much right away -- as long as there is some in-game advantage to be gained from it. People have broken the poo poo out of RO's client to the point where the game is barely recognizable, pvp areas are a series of greyscale tiles, key classes are either sprite edited to be gigantic and/or contain blocks of cyan so AHK scripts can be written to "spam x skill on cyan". Every client side restriction you can think of has been circumvented including the ability to freely walk onto other players' cells so most group PVP is two groups of people standing on 4 cells each and spamming enough damage at each other to oneshot a player 2-3 times per second. So, if this game attracts the same audience you will almost certainly be able to mouse target.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:24
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The last mmo I played where you could strafe and aim solely with keyboard was in Infantry and that came out in 1999 but it also had a mouse control mode.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:33
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gently caress you mouse havers. Now is the time of our glorious gamepad.
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Mar 14, 2015 00:10
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35 new posts! release d... oh. 
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I think I'm going to play some stupid rear end official Renewal RO off and on for a few days before I get bored or kill myself for playing this game again. Will be rolling a new character. Anyone interested in shooting the poo poo in game while we kill sandmen or whatever? Ok so apparently they merged servers like 3 times and now I have all 11 characters I've made over the last decade across several servers on Chaos. So weird. Baldbeard fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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Mar 14, 2015 14:48
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Baldbeard posted:I think I'm going to play some stupid rear end official Renewal RO off and on for a few days before I get bored or kill myself for playing this game again. Will be rolling a new character. Anyone interested in shooting the poo poo in game while we kill sandmen or whatever? Why not a private server? with bearable rates.
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Vier posted:Why not a private server? with bearable rates. Any recommendations?
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