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According to Batman Year One Bruce was 25 when he came back to Gotham.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2014 16:03 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 23:56 |
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Jerusalem posted:I said before and I stand by the idea that for this to really work as a prequel to Batman's debut, then things CAN'T get better. Well, they could have Gordon make progress only for it to be a pyrrhic victory, with his diluting the influence of the mob over Gotham paving the way for the crazier, more outlandish super-villains to take control, necessitating the birth of the Batman to help clean it up. It puts the cart before the horse somewhat compared to the comics, where the existence of Batman inspires the super-villains, but this show is going to have to diverge from its source material for the sake of having enough plots to last a few seasons.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2014 23:51 |
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Like I said earlier, you could show Gordon making progress against regular organized crime, only for his success to open up the field for over-the-top crazies like Cobblepot and Sionis to step in and begin Gotham's slide into complete insanity. Then Batman.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 04:14 |
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CuwiKhons posted:I've been thinking about this episode again and I'm really irritated at the "no psychologists for Bruce" thing. Alfred knows that Bruce is self harming. He's also ten years old. If you're the guardian of a ten year old who has been through some serious trauma and is reacting to it by hurting himself, it's time to talk to a psychologist, whether he loving wants to or not. No, you have to trust that a ten-year-old experiencing post traumatic distress knows what's best for himself! Seriously, this show is so dumb and over the top and hammy and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2014 14:07 |
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Papa Wayne didn't specifically forbid Alfred from having Bruce see a psychiatrist, he just told him to trust Bruce to know what's best for himself. Which is probably even stupider, especially given how literally Alfred seems to have taken that advice. EDIT: The dialogue implied, at least to me, that the no psychiatrist thing was Bruce's order, not his dad's. ALFRED: No psychiatrists. That's a rule. GORDON: You make the rules, don't you? You're his guardian. ALFRED: Now, Bruce's father gave me very firm orders was him and his missus to die. Now I will raise the boy the way his father told me to raise him. GORDON: Which is how? ALFRED: Trust him to choose his own course. He is, after all, a Wayne. Phylodox fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Oct 1, 2014 |
# ¿ Oct 1, 2014 14:28 |
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I hope this doesn't become one of those threads that's almost unreadable outside of the running commentary as the show actually airs.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2014 13:42 |
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Right now this show is dancing gleefully on a knife edge between "charmingly ludicrous" and "unwatchably bad". I hope it keeps that up, but I'd be surprised. More likely it loses my interest before the first season finale.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 12:24 |
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No way is Gotham anywhere the same (justice) league as Arrow, The Flash, or even Agents of SHIELD (now that it's gotten good). It's sitting solidly at the bottom of my list of shows that I actually watch on a weekly basis, but it is hangin' in there. Barely. I'm looking forward to seeing how Constantine and Agent Carter are, since comic book shows seem to be on a bit of a hot streak.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 12:53 |
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Just let the CW make shows of whatever DC property they want. No bullshit embargoes or restrictions. Let them create a whole unified DC universe of shows. Marvel can own the theatres while DC owns TV.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2014 19:30 |
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I remember Hannibal being pretty good about not spelling things out.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2014 02:22 |
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Jerusalem posted:I've never seen the Catwoman movie but when I heard about how bad it was, all I could think was that it couldn't have been as bad as that scene in Daredevil where Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner fight in the school playground while the kids watch and cheer. Then I saw this: And now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 22:00 |
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precision posted:Growing up I always thought the Penguin was British. I mean, "Oswald Cobblepot"?! Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2014 08:27 |
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Drifter posted:And the infection. It's a beer bottle. The alcohol sterilized it.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2014 22:41 |
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Now they just need to cast Abe Vigoda for an "actors everyone thought was dead" hat trick.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 23:24 |
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"We have your girlfriend!" "No, you don't. She left town!" "She came back to town and immediately came to me to beg for your life!" "Hah! There's no way she'd be dumb enough to do that! "... "And if she was I'm probably better off with a new girlfriend, anyways."
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2014 17:29 |
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Best Batman is subjective. Personally, I like the animated Kevin Conroy Batman best. Keaton was awesome, though. Bale was certainly one of my least favourite things about the Nolan films.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2014 17:11 |
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Harvey was already crazy pre-disfiguring in the animated series. He had a second personality named Big Bad Harv.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2014 01:30 |
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This show is so awesome because whenever I watch any other show with poorly written female characters I can just say to myself, "Well, at least they're not Barbara Gordon!"
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2014 16:17 |
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Uhm...no? This is a bad show. It has the very dubious distinction of being watchably bad, but it's still very, very bad. If you don't like people pointing out how bad a show is...don't read threads about bad shows?
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 14:45 |
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Everyone is saying why it's bad. Overwrought dialogue, stupid plotting, dumb characters, Barbara, the list goes on and on every single week and it's just about all anyone talks about in this thread. Seriously, have you even been reading?
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 15:12 |
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Man, you don't get it! Once you're over 35 you're old, man. Like, you might as well just lie down and die, y'know? Like...Batman fighting someone in their forties?!? Jeez, they'd probably fall down and break their hip before he even got there, dude!
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 20:09 |
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Penguin and Nygma might be in their mid- to late-forties, but neither of them are physical adversaries. And that's still not that old. Robert Downey Jr. is almost fifty and he's still rockin' out as Iron Man.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 20:35 |
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sbaldrick posted:The Penguin isn't really a physical adversary, but The Riddler and Two-Face are. Also Iron Man is a suit of battle-armor not a guy running around punching people. Riddler is, by definition, a cerebral enemy. And I guess you haven't seen Iron Man 3 where running around and punching people out of his armour is most of what Tony does.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 21:36 |
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Require More Fire posted:Montoya. Clearly you missed the Jackson family cameo episode.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2014 22:16 |
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Obviously Barb finds solace in the arms of Alfred's visiting brother, because Batgirl is Alfred's niece.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2015 14:06 |
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I don't know if this show has it in them to play the long game, but if they do I'd assume they'd draw out the development of characters like Riddler and Penguin over several seasons. If they don't...well, they're going to find themselves scrambling to draw things out until Bruce is old enough to be Batman or (more likely) the show gets cancelled.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2015 20:04 |
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In my mind the Joker has always just been a normal, boring, run-of-the-mill guy who just snapped. For absolutely no observable reason. Maybe it was hearing a news story about Batman. Maybe it was being bullied by his co-workers. Maybe it was nothing at all. He just quietly goes insane one day, then goes in to work and brutally slaughters everyone there, then goes home and carves himself a permanent grin.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2015 18:11 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Part of the charm of the Batman/Joker dynamic, though, is that they are in so many ways really just the same. As Joker himself puts it in Killing Joke, that they are both the product of one particularly bad day. He also implies that it's most likely a lie. Personally, I like the idea of a quietly insane guy who just sees a news story on Batman on the television one night and says to himself, "Oh, is that what's happening now? Okay, time to kill some people, I guess."
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2015 18:28 |
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Yeah, and you can accuse your fellow officers of murder based on the eyewitness testimony of hobos so you can discredit them and steal their fiancées!
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 18:43 |
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Shadow posted:Bloody hell. Those comments. Never. Read. The comments. Never.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 14:02 |
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tarlibone posted:But if you don't read the comments, how can you know what the Internet is thinking? If you really, really need to know what the prevailing opinion of Internet commenters is then go out, eat a whole lot of Indian food, then eat even more Mexican food, then wait a few hours, take the sloppiest, smelliest, most anus-scorching poo poo imaginable, then get down on your hands and knees, get your head right down there in the bowl, and take a good, healthy whiff. Then console yourself that what you just experienced is barely a fraction as odious as the real thing.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 19:16 |
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Alternately, lick a bus station bathroom floor.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 19:16 |
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Didn't they stop all the kids from getting shipped off to Doll Island?
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:17 |
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Sepsis sets in because of a sloppy, unlicensed eye transplant.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 22:43 |
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So the phone number on the call display in the Ogre's sex dungeon had a 405 area code. That means Gotham's in Oklahoma. Who'd have guessed?
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2015 15:03 |
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Solomon Mooney.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2015 18:37 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 23:56 |
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Wow, Jada Pinkett-Smith's décolletage was...distracting this episode.
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# ¿ May 5, 2015 15:22 |