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Loaded it up again and I'm just really not enjoying the flight model right now  I'm certain it will get better as they tweak it and I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops, but for now it makes me want to play more Elite instead.
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CLAM DOWN posted:What's a cheap and decent joystick if I want to go all sperg mode on this? I hate controllers and won't spend more than like $30. I own one of those and it's still going strong after ~5 years. I wish it had more buttons, but it most definitely does the job it was supposed to do.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:30
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Just ordered one, should be here tomorrow, thanks guys. Logitech makes the best peripherals in my opinion, and the occasional time I've had to do a warranty exchange after like 2 year it's been a fast easy new replacement thing.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:31
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I finally got in and tried some free flight with a 360 controller. Is there any way to turn off rumble that anyone has figured out? Also bugs me that "invert controller" doesn't actually invert it all. The look is still stuck on pull-down, push-up while the flight is where it's supposed to be with pull-up, push-down.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:36
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An alternative recommendation for a low-price stick http://www.amazon.com/Hercules-2960706-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Flight/dp/B001S0RTU0 Had it for a while, no complaints.
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a pub on RSI sums it up pretty well:quote:Flight model atm seem to have 3 major issues. At the moment it's a bouncy, floaty, slow, lovely experience.
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THF13 posted:An alternative recommendation for a low-price stick http://www.amazon.com/Hercules-2960706-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Flight/dp/B001S0RTU0 I have this and the logitech 3d, if you can spare the extra $15 go for this one.
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THF13 posted:An alternative recommendation for a low-price stick http://www.amazon.com/Hercules-2960706-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Flight/dp/B001S0RTU0 $50 on the .ca site versus $30, nah. I'll be very happy with the Logitech one I'm sure.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:44
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I'm still downloading it, but it sounds like it controls exactly like Wing Commander. Ultra fast acceleration, crazy turn speed on every axis, massive afterburner boosts, powerful missiles, fragile ships and relatively slow projectiles. All about dodging every shot and trying to get as close to the enemy as possible so your slow shots can hit a dodging enemy. It's the opposite of Elite's model - but they're both valid. It's just that the Wing Commander model sucks for multiplayer and is awesome for singleplayer.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:47
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THF13 posted:Anyone running this on a Nvidia 770 2GB that can comment on performance at 1080? Was planning to pick one of those up. That's what I have, and I have no problems running maxed out at 1080p. As for my impressions of the game, I will wait for multiplayer to be sure but this has the same feeling as the start of the MWO beta. Unpolished and rough, but the core experience seems fun.
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ijyt posted:So is this thing "good" good or "denial" good? Better than BF4 at launch by virtue of actually working.
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Banano posted:a pub on RSI sums it up pretty well: I hate to say it, but you are both right and it's exactly what I expected it to be and I'm okay with it. This is basically just like how Wing Commander worked. High maneuverability and very fast acceleration. Relatively low ability to soak damage and Missiles that were worthless against competent pilots unless launched on a near perfect trajectory. Rapid fire guns that required multiple hits to kill instead of a single hit. TTK is long if you suck and short if you don't. Missiles launched poorly are useless except against fodder targets. Since this game was based on Wing Commander what we got is pretty much exactly what I expected it to be. This game is Wing Commander writ large. I wonder how many people donated to this without knowing that that meant. BitBasher fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Didn't cr say he wanted ww2 dogfights in space? The current fm looks like you're a stationary rotating turret
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ethanol posted:I bought it in 2005 and it wore out after a month or two, which turned out to be the case a lot of people. It looks exactly the same, but I dunno if they fixed the problem that plagued them back then, they probably have if they're still selling them Yeah, in my experience the boots on Logitech joysticks tend to wear out really quickly.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:55
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Both Reddit and the brown sea have massive threads full of joystick users whining that the mouse control is OP. Haven't done enough pew pew to know if they have a point, but the tears are delicious.
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Google Butt posted:Didn't cr say he wanted ww2 dogfights in space? The current fm looks like you're a stationary rotating turret He says that but none of his games have really worked that way from a physics point of view. By saying that I think he essentially means slower moving ships that rely on guns and no BVR combat, not a literal WWII dogfight.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:56
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Really bummed they don't have thrust on the left/right and up/down axes. On the positive side the game is gorgeous and it'll only get better. Edit- thanks vv Coldstone Cream-my-pants fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 19:58
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The Royal Scrub posted:Really bummed they don't have thrust on the left/right and up/down axes. They do. Depending on your flight mode (i.e. Capslock I think) you can use QWE/ASD to maneuver laterally and vertically.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:59
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Harabeck posted:Both Reddit and the brown sea have massive threads full of joystick users whining that the mouse control is OP. Haven't done enough pew pew to know if they have a point, but the tears are delicious. Mouse/Keyboard is actually pretty great if you're used to Freelancer. Once you get into the groove of FCS decoupling to whip turn into things, it becomes very reminiscent of using engine kill effectively in FL.
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3 posted:Mouse/Keyboard is actually pretty great if you're used to Freelancer. Once you get into the groove of FCS decoupling to whip turn into things, it becomes very reminiscent of using engine kill effectively in FL. Having played a lot of Freelancer PvP this was the first thing I tried in Arena Commander, but I didn't actually notice any turning speed differences between coupled and decoupled modes. This was only in an Aurora so other ships might be different.
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All this launch talk, and no one is answering the important questions. Someone confirm/deny existence of beer during WMH.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:07
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No beer.
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Exnihilation posted:Having played a lot of Freelancer PvP this was the first thing I tried in Arena Commander, but I didn't actually notice any turning speed differences between coupled and decoupled modes. This was only in an Aurora so other ships might be different. Since you don't gain any more maneuvering thrusters in one mode versus the other why would you turn faster? I would think the turn rate would be the same regardless.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:No beer. Game is a failure. Shut the whole thing down. E: BitBasher posted:Since you don't gain any more maneuvering thrusters in one mode versus the other why would you turn faster? I would think the turn rate would be the same regardless. The only thing that should affect turn rates are the G-Protection and COMSTAB modes. Decoupled is, from my understanding (having not played yet due to work), independent of these.
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Strafing should be an option regardless of what mode you are in.
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Exnihilation posted:Having played a lot of Freelancer PvP this was the first thing I tried in Arena Commander, but I didn't actually notice any turning speed differences between coupled and decoupled modes. This was only in an Aurora so other ships might be different. The point of decoupled mode is to let you do crazy poo poo like travel along one vector while your nose is pointed in another. Say, flipping around in place to empty your guns into the rear end in a top hat on your 6.
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BitBasher posted:Since you don't gain any more maneuvering thrusters in one mode versus the other why would you turn faster? I would think the turn rate would be the same regardless. Sorry, maybe I should have prefaced that comment with the fact that I don't think the physics in Star Citizen are wrong. In Freelancer to turn you would kill your engines and use reverse thrust to help "whip" your ship around quicker. Killing your engines in Freelancer is a lot like how the decoupled mode works in Star Citizen. I was commenting that in Star Citizen it didn't feel like there was any noticeable difference, so I don't think using the decoupled mode offers any turning advantages over just turning in coupled mode.
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WTF is this crap!?  Now I will never get the game today. My 1.5Mbit Connection has been tapped out since the AC dropped last night.  Also does anyone know if the game works with multi controllers (with separate Stick/Throttle/Peddles) like a Hotas or Logitech G940? I ask because my X52 does have the broken twist axis as well and if there is no way to remap, then there is probably no way to remove it from the game and ill be yawing all over the place.
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EdEddnEddy posted:WTF is this crap!? Turning off the p2p in the advanced settings has intermittently given me 1 MB/s download speeds. Now I'm down to sub-300 KB/s either way 
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Octopode posted:All this launch talk, and no one is answering the important questions. I've heard rumors that continued gifts (such as beer) would be present on another future program, but I have no idea when that will start. Some people are saying as early as next week but I'd imagine there would be need for more lead time.
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EdEddnEddy posted:WTF is this crap!? There is a default profile set up for the X55, which I believe is two separate controllers, hardware-wise, so it's certainly supported by the game. Unfortunately, there is no way to remap anything right now, so if it doesn't work correctly out of the box, you're probably out of luck until that gets patched in.
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Fun, promising moment: I shoot a scythe in autoslide/DCF mode, and the collision lady sounds off. I deke right, but I notice the target's still flying away from me. That's when I notice I'm dodging the loving RAMMING WING RIDDLED WITH BULLET HOLES AND LASER SCORCHES I JUST BLEW OFF!
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If any of you are having problems with the mixed up yaw/roll axis on a HOTAS, some dude on the forums posted this fix: When in game, press ` to show the console. Then type: pp_RebindKeys layout_joystick_spacesim Not sure if it is a permanent fix, or has to be done every time you log in. Also not sure how to switch back to default, but it seems to be working well for me on my X52.
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Not mine, but this video does a good job at showcasing the jerky, bobbly movement particularly noticeable when you yaw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Pkhv3Wylw
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The game definitely looks fantastic via the twitch streams. However I think I'm holding off playing until the single player and PU is released. Don't want to burn out on this game before the things I want exist. Thanks to all you brave alpha testers putting it on the line for the rest of us.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Also does anyone know if the game works with multi controllers (with separate Stick/Throttle/Peddles) like a Hotas or Logitech G940? I ask because my X52 does have the broken twist axis as well and if there is no way to remap, then there is probably no way to remove it from the game and ill be yawing all over the place. Doesn't at the moment. I have Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals, and they're unusable until we can bind controls/axis. Set a bigger deadzone in windows if it's doing the typical twitching all over the place.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:The point of decoupled mode is to let you do crazy poo poo like travel along one vector while your nose is pointed in another. Say, flipping around in place to empty your guns into the rear end in a top hat on your 6. the Problem with it right now is, that it doesnt let you really change the vector you are on while in decoupled mode. Sucks, but as with the arcady gameplay in general i have have hopes for improvement.
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Ooop, double post, gently caress gently caress.
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so if I want to play this I have to buy some $40 spaceship that does not exist or what
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WARDUKE posted:If any of you are having problems with the mixed up yaw/roll axis on a HOTAS, some dude on the forums posted this fix: This is the best thing ever. I love you. And him. E: also...  https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/138390/do-you-have-this-awesome-aroura#latest scroll down to the 300 with dual ball turrets
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