Star Citizen: Even the Pope won't invite me to dinner to discuss religion

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Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

xanif posted:

I thought that getting him to call me a hypocrite, arrogant, and ignorant would get him probated since I got slapped when I called someone delusional but I guess it wasn't enough.

RSI forums are moderated pretty much like this. I'm an unbiased expert. If I remember correctly the forum rules were crafted after Ben spent some weeks studying the New Haven Colony circa 1650.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Aug 9, 2015

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Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Zeike posted:

Hey there friend! So whats your fleet looking like these days?

Mostly $250 - $2,500 thumbnails of concept art, except for my Super Hornet and Mustang which are actually digital spaceships that exist.

Dusty Lens posted:

Hey aren't you the bitcoin guy?

Yes, I am Star Citizen's Official Bitcoin Messiah

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 04:08

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Claim:

Skoll posted:

Ha ha. You're a loving idiot.

Evidence?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 04:17

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

You're a loving autismo legend.

So a bunch of strangers on a separate forum are still talking about my posts months after I've been banned, and I'm supposed to feel something other than mild amusement?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 04:22

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

You should feel deep shame

Let's agree to disagree, new friend.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 04:25

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Zeike posted:

Dare I say... Space Court?

Do the mods make you swear on Space Bibles in Space court? I bet they do.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 04:29

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

That Works posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/query.php?action=posthistory&userid=215655

Exhibit A for space court.

Platinum members only, guess I'm not cool enough with my lowly $10 account. *sadface*

Is this what it feels like to be one of you filthy space-poors? Man, your lives must be terrible.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 05:26

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

nnnotime posted:

If the game ever gets released, how hackable will Star Citizen be?

Actively developed software with a decent information security team is generally anti-fragile. The more Star Citizen is attacked by hackers over the course of the next 19 years of development, the harder it will be to hack when it releases in 2034.

In all seriousness, if CIG doesn't require clients to run listening software when connected to the PU, they're fully loving retarded.

BTW awhile back some rando forumturd in this thread said that anyone who claimed to have made money flipping ships is a liar. I made over 2 grand selling LTI ships at inflated prices to fools on reddit - enough to get my destroyer almost for free. Now what?

nnnotime posted:

How credible is Lesnick on this subject?

-_-

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 14:25

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

That Works posted:

So you made enough money to break even paying for a game that doesn't function yet?

No. Not even close. But it's just dirty fiat bloodmoney so I'm happy to be rid of it.

Edit: No, you can't have any. Get a fuckin job ya louse.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 14:52

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

OhsH posted:

confirmed bitcoiners still retarded with money gg close

Expense is relative, wageslave.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:00

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Amun Khonsu posted:

Point is if someone spends 3k of his "disposable income" on SC, heckling him for it is silly regardless if it becomes vaporeware.

Especially since if CIG goes too long without producing anything worthwhile, we can just start selling ships and accounts at a profit before the plebes catch on.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:19

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

OhsH posted:

god you all planning on voting trump???

First bitcoin, now this poo poo. Keeping a thread on topic is hard, no?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:33

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

OhsH posted:

whats to talk about w/r/t the game anyways

Than why are you here in this thread?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:35

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

AP posted:

It's all been very well thought out. If the game has as much thought put into as the marketing it might actually be good.

Agreed with you there, I fully expect to see the next tier up Vanduul Heavy Fighter be sold for like $500 6-12 months from now.

I have the money and time to get a Glaive, but I just can't be bothered until SC is playable (and fun) with dual joysticks.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:38

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

AP posted:

Seraph, What did you get banned for in the end

The heart of the issue is that I live my life with the philosophy that knowledge is the only good, ignorance the only evil. Ben Lesnick & his christian coalition of mods believe foul language, indecency, and meanness to be evil, while kindness, obedience, and politeness (pretense) the source of True Good. This philosophical conflict was never going to be resolved with reason, so the mods were left only with one of the traditional tools of theocratic control: social violence in the form of permanent banishment from the community.

Or restated much more concisely: Reason is the only authority I respect.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:44

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

The fedora is strong with this one.

You caught me while I was still editing, read it again there might be more to make fun of now.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 15:50

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

If you weren't a j4g

I'm not a J4G. I have my own small org, not seeking to join Goonrathi. I'm here for shits n giggles on my 2nd monitor while I play civ v.

Skoll posted:

I too, keep a thesaurus next to my keyboard so I can prattle on a bunch of pseudo-intellectualism

It must get real awkward whenever you have a conversation with an intelligent person face to face.

Eonwe posted:

Please dont make me shitpost here today

Bring the pain hon.

Rutibex posted:

A fool and his money are soon parted. even if a literal billionaire spent $3000 on star citizen i would still consider them an idiot and a rube

"I'm a pragmatist, I hate idealists."

YAWN, this argument is older than dust. Nobody cares dude, idealists gonna idealize.

Also Sander 2016

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:02

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

AP posted:

Seraph, What did you get banned for in the end

Restated much more concisely: Reason is the only authority I respect.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:19

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

If you're really a girl

Not loving likely.

OhsH posted:

personally i love the fact that this game will be bad.

Honestly if Star Citizen ends up being shitastic, the ~5 grand will be an acceptable loss in exchange for getting a front row seat for the drama-hilarity of 800,000 nerds completely losing their minds.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:25

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Rutibex posted:

nah, actually when rich people start bragging about their poo poo they expect plebs to be impressed, they get super upset and defensive when they get laughed at for being idiots

Gross generalizations, ahoy!

Warcabbit posted:

As I said, gently caress whatever qualifications Sandi has - she knows how to produce, and that's what matters.

I agree, with the caveat that there's a balance to be struck between profit-making and public relations. One could argue CIG has not managed that balance well.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:36

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Eonwe posted:

Lol you are like a parody

Care to elaborate, or was this just more nonsensical verbal diarrhea from the peanut gallery?

Eonwe posted:

Seraph84 is the most broken person in the thread that I see

Only you can fix me, start the campaign to lobby CIG to unban Seraph84! I believe in you, I know you can be my hero.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:43

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Sedisp posted:

Conversely I will get the same seat for zero dollars while not wearing the losing teams jersey. Guess I'm the better fun investor.

Correct, if the game fails. But if Star Citizen comes out awesome, I have a Destroyer and you ain't got poo poo, which would make me the superior "fun investor".

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:46

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Eonwe posted:

Sc druggie and seraph84 oh boy

I'm in great pain you know. Every moment of my banishment from RSI is more needless suffering. Where is your empathy? Won't you save me?

Eonwe posted:

Whose alt is this

Your mother's.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:48

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Refind Chaos posted:

Just a reminder, this is still the worst thread, with the worst posters, on all of the SA forums. Not beer's fault, but man this whole loving thread is a train wreck of awfulness.

This is the best thread on SA, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 16:50

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Eonwe posted:

You like star citizen

No poo poo. You know, at this point the only reason your avatar has been spared is because of your endorsement of Sanders.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 17:06

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Friendly Tumour posted:

Jesus loving christ

's myths caused many people to be burned alive throughout history , and a few to be banned from internet communities.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 17:10

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Friendly Tumour posted:

You suck dude. You are poo poo and hosed in tje braim

I know, I know hon. *warm internet hug*

Decrepus posted:

Who would j4g for a guild that has been clowned on so hard in their own thread on their own forum? Making fun of the members is mod sanctioned and open season. Please do not call anyone a j4g because this is not goonswarm this is nothing.

LOLQFT there's no game (PU) anyway, but to be fair Goonrathi does have a bunch of quality people in it, they know who they are.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 17:26

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Eldragon posted:

Please explain to me in detail why a fine young bitcoin capitalist like yourself endorses Sanders.

For the record, I'm probably about as far to the left of Sanders as Sanders is to Hilary.

I hate capitalism more than I love being wealthy. I hold no illusions about "independence" in the modern world. I hold the following to be self-evident truth. With a reasonably diligent amount of research, any earnest student of history and science will arrive at the same conclusions about industrial capitalism I outline below:

1. Capitalism is a system of resource distribution which actively prevents equilibrium. All systems approach equilibrium unless prevented from doing so by a constantly applied external force. In capitalism, that force is systematic hierarchical violence.

2. Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized.
Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims. Our way of living�industrial civilization�is based on, requires, and would collapse very quickly without persistent and widespread violence.

3. The property of those higher on the hierarchy is more valuable than the lives of those below. It is acceptable for those above to increase the amount of property they control�in everyday language, to make money�by destroying or taking the lives of those below. This is called production.
If those below damage the property of those above, those above may kill or otherwise destroy the lives of those below. This is called justice.

NOTE: The recent backlash against police brutality/murder is a sure sign #3 is beginning to change; this change will be fatal for capitalism

4. Within this culture, economics�not community well-being, not morals, not ethics, not justice, not life itself�drives social decisions. Social decisions are determined primarily (and often exclusively) on the basis of whether these decisions will increase the monetary fortunes of the decision-makers and those they serve.
Stated another way - Social decisions are founded primarily (and often exclusively) on the almost entirely unexamined belief that the decision-makers and those they serve are entitled to magnify their power and/or financial fortunes at the expense of all those beneath them in the hierarchy.

5. Given the premises stated above, anyone who truly despises violence must be opposed to capitalism. As I love reason and loathe violence (and exploitation, poverty, starvation, indignity, drudgery, and suffering) I am therefore opposed to capitalism. This is not a political choice, I am compelled by the evidence to believe as I do. My reason for opposing capitalism is in essence the same as my reason for opposing religion: I loathe human suffering.

I look at history and see a long trend away from violence, ignorance, and superstition arcing slowly toward reason, knowledge, and empathy. Like a 350 old man on life support in the hospital, capitalism is dying. It's dying now because growing empathy is finally killing it. To PREVENT capitalism's death now would represent a monumental historical aberration - a break from this thousands of years long undeniable trend toward a civilization of ruled purely by reason and empathy.

Capitalists tend to believe that individuals gravitate towards being inherently bad. This belief is not only provably false, but willfully ignorant. Human nature is trusting, open, generous, curious, compassionate, and kind. Study Bonobo Chimpanzees for reference. By contrast, most of human culture is myth-rooted, unscientific, deceptive, ignorant, fearful, hateful, and self-and-other-destructive. Why is that? Culture is ancient, it's been around for tens of thousands of years - most of that time dominated by violence - while modern reason is a relative infant at only around 400 years old.

Related reading:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/28/science/researchers-trace-empathy-s-roots-to-infancy.html
http://www.apa.org/monitor/oct05/mirror.aspx
https://www.dnalc.org/view/852-Mirror-Neurons-and-Empathy.html
http://news.emory.edu/stories/2014/03/chimpanzees_and_empathy/campus.html
http://cultureofempathy.com/references/Experts/Frans-de-Waal.htm
http://www.democracyjournal.org/16/6740.php?page=all
http://www.democracyatwork.info/

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 18:20

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Chalks posted:

How much have you spent on pictures of internet spaceships?

Eldragon posted:

Clearly your exile from RSI has changed you for the better.

Potato Salad posted:

I too can basically spurt pages and pages of self-aggrandizing shitposting that reads like a millenial's take on Rand because I played Bioshock.

The clever reader may notice a pattern here: none of these shitposts are arguments. Could it be the fabled goons are in over their heads?

Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are prsented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect for the ego to protect the core belief they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:10

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

3 posted:

EDIT: also you unironically think bitcoin has worth as a currency rather than as an unstable escrow system for laundering money and buying child porn

I unironically find transparent mathematics to be a more compelling source of intrinsic value than "the full faith and credit" of this or that nation-state.

It's natural for me, as I don't trust government generally, and especially mistrust national government.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:18

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

3 posted:

soooooooo why is btc still pegged to currency exchange values??????

Comparing Bitcoin's value to the dollar's is like comparing a written letter to an email. It's all speculative, but at the end of the day fiat money will turn out to have always been worthless relative to bitcoin, for the same reasons that hand-writing a letter and sending it via carrier pigeon is a worthless and nonsensical sentimental waste of time in 2015.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/why-bitcoin-value-doesnt-matter/
https://medium.com/@agilemofo/why-you-should-care-about-bitcoin-1a812f8fa7cd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaPgfErzeu0

There will come a time when the average person will think to themselves (about us) "hyperinflation after hyperinflation, why did these idiots keep trusting national money for as long as they did?", and I believe that day is not far off.

Sedisp posted:

So you lack an understanding of value?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R3Zg1KL_KE

If you asked the average joe about the internet in 1995, what do you suppose the probability would be that they would excitedly tell you it's going to completely take over the telecom industry and make a bunch of people rich, while bankrupting others?

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:20

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Rutibex posted:

nothing has intrinsic value.

Arable soil, clean water, breathable air, food, shelter, warmth don't have intrinsic value to human beings?

Rutibex posted:

buttcoins have value assigned to it by a handful of nerds, US dollars have value assigned to it by the most powerful military in history

For someone mentioning history you sure seemed to have slept through all your classes on it. Start here. Vast overstretched military empires don't have a great track record.

tooterfish posted:

You can buy drugs just fine with that dirty fiat money though*?

Sure, in person, if you're comfortable dealing face to face with drug dealers. You going to send cash through the mail? Good luck.
What happens when you get burned? Oh, you didn't know that there's no escrow with cash? Oops, you got hosed.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:36

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Sedisp posted:

What happens when you send buttcoins and they don't send you drugs?

From what I understand there is an escrow system in place, but I don't know the details. It probably varies depending on the site. Anyway this sounds like a question for r/darknetmarkets

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:39

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Potato Salad posted:

So, you can buy a Retaliator empty hull with LTI for $150 and two modules for it with LTI for $50.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14883-Retaliator-Modules-Available

The original sale years ago was for how much?

If I remember correctly $250 for OB/vet backers and $275 for others, or some poo poo like that.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:45

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Rutibex posted:

lol i am literally a historian, i am paid money to know history and tell it to other people

So you're unironically saying - in the star citizen thread of all places - that being paid money to do a thing automatically makes you super qualified?

I name you economic fundamentalist, sir. Don't feel bad, you're hardly the first academic that I've embarrassed. Hey, at least it wasn't in person in front of all your onlooking students.

Seraph84 fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 9, 2015

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:53

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Skoll posted:

This just in, bitcoin / anarchy fanatic knows more than educated and tenured historian.

There are American judges with decades of experience alive today who believe in invisible sky fathers and invisible winged sky people. These are people deciding the fates of fellow citizens. This is fundamentalist thought. Do you really believe the institutions of academia are immune from fundamentalist thought? Older people are especially prone to fundamentalist thought, as they developed in an environment without the internet, but with centralized media such as radio and TV. They've been lied to their entire lives, so it's no surprise they get shocked and upset when you tell them the truth.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 20:00

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

3 posted:

lucky we have you (who is in no way fundamentally rooted to specific concepts like the superiority of cryptocurrency) to enlighten the masses. why bother applying strict academic scrutiny to anything when i can have a youtube video explain it to me instantly; thanks the internet!

Unfortunately strict academic scrutiny doesn't count for gently caress all outside the hard sciences. Money talks, strict academic scrutiny walks like the rest of the plebes.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 20:06

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

Chalks posted:

If Seraph84, DSmart and Croberts had an ego fight, who would win?

croberts for sure. How can I compete with 80 million dollars of nerds' sadness-money?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 20:10

Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

You guys are a fun crowd, have to admit I'm impressed. All these hurt feelings and nobody has suspended my account yet! It's almost like you don't feel the need to censor opposing perspectives on this here internet forum. The only thing this place needs is more angry Christians.

@Rutibex http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/noam-chomsky-kind-anarchism-i-believe-and-whats-wrong-libertarians?sc=fb

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Seraph84: Aug 9, 2015; by XyloJW

OhsH posted:

i'm actually really happy when people come in and loudly proclaim the reasons i should never talk to them.

Yes, it's important to insulate your mind from anybody with a different viewpoint. You don't want to go mixing perspectives, that could be dangerous!

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 20:24

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