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They're going to deny that it's bribery and that it's just a coincidence. Just like the government official who approved the Comcast and AT&T merger then left their agency to become a Comcast VP
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:President Bush doesn't want to privatize Social Security via Executive Order guys, it's just the Democrat's fault for blocking it. That's not a fair comparison. The Democrats did not have a stated mission of 'stop Bush from getting a second term at all costs' and didn't have a Tea Party. If we were talking about judicial nominees it'd be a better point because they DID filibuster Bush's judicial appointees, but the GOP has done everything it can to burn the federal government to the ground because they're mad we have a black Democrat for a president. (my bad if you're being facetious about being facetious or whatever. I didn't get enough sleep last night and if this is meta-irony parody of right wing facetiousness then I'm too dense and sleep-deprived right now to get it)
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mlmp08 posted:The biggest problem with it is that it still does fuckall to curb higher education costs. What can we do to curb higher education costs? Like I legitimately don't know. Unless you mean increase state funding, which just moves the cost around. Unless you mean out of pocket costs, which would be fair.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:13
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To be clear, because on review my post about this stuff sounds kinda 'guys I'm just asking questions' bullshity - I'm hugely pro subsidizing our college students. Oregon is working on getting a lovely program off the ground where you pay a percentage of your income for a while after you finish school and there's no tuition up front. I really, really, really want it to succeed and become more widespread. Of course, I heard about this program from a friend of my brother's (and general horrible person) who's in finance and the most FYGM person I've ever met. She sent it to me with "isn't this terrible? Those liberal arts kids need to get real degrees so engineers like you don't have to pay for them." I went on a ten minute rant about believing in subsidizing higher ed (and general angry socialist ranting) and she promptly hosed off  Anyway, I wasn't sure if the problem was that the costs of running a school were skyrocketing, state budgets getting slashed, or both, and it looks like both. And I figure that if we go back to state budgeting it'd help alleviate the costs of running schools, considering the inherent collective bargaining power of a state negotiating with institutions instead of individual people having said institutions hand them a bill and say 'pay it or get the gently caress out' and charging whatever they please.
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Amergin posted:I don't know man ask Detroit or the kids in here struggling to make ends meet after incurring tens of thousands of dollars of debt for their liberal arts degrees. You're being facetious right? You cannot possibly be this loving stupid.
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Jun 9, 2014 22:05
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Amergin posted:Seriously, go to Google, type "France debt" and tell me what the big number that pops up says. I'll wait. The number could be eleventy billion percent and it wouldn't matter if debt to GDP ratio doesn't have an actual negative impact on your national economy.
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Jun 9, 2014 22:44
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Kalman posted:He's referring to the Comcast-NBC merger. My bad, whoops. I had heard otherwise (ie that Bakers vote mattered). But yes, it's shady as gently caress either way.
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SedanChair posted:Interesting how any shooting at or near a school is immediately perceived to be a "mass" shooting. You, in writing this, pissed on the literally still warm corpse of the gunman and the dying student who was shot. You poo poo on someone's death before they were even dead. God, how does a human being even write something like this? I've been grappling with how to even begin to respond for upwards of two hours. What the gently caress is wrong with you? I really just don't have the words to even begin to plumb the depths of how lovely it was to write this. I have tried and failed. Magres fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 18:11
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Can someone PM me when gunchat blows over? I love this thread but I cannot loving deal with gunchat right now.canuckanese posted:Yeah I experienced the same thing when Virginia Tech happened (I had friends there at the time). By the time Sandy Hook happened, I was shocked and it made me sad, but I went back to doing my work after reading the news for an hour or so. With these past few shootings, if anyone even brings them up in office conversation the subject shifts to something else organically like they were talking about sports or the weather. Yeah I'm right there with you right now. I live in Corvallis, about an hour South of Troutdale, and some of the freshmen I'm friends with at Oregon State are recent Reynolds High grads.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:35
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:Has anybody said The Cantor-Buried Tales? This really deserves more love than it has gotten. It's a great joke.
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Teddybear posted:Depends if Dems get behind their guy, if Cantor runs a write in, and if Brat pulls an Akin. As is, he's the favorite by virtue of being the republican. HorseRenoir posted:Cantor's district is heavily Republican. Unless Cantor starts a write-in campaign and heavily splits the vote, I don't see Brat losing. Would anyone care to speculate on how likely it is Cantor would do this out of spite?
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Jun 11, 2014 07:00
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Alter Ego posted:This joke will literally never, ever get old. Idgi Explain  for me? Thank you 
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Jun 11, 2014 18:42
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Teddybear posted:Joe Biden took several tries to find the correct Marty Walsh to congratulate when Walsh won the election for mayor of Boston. That's so amazing  I love Diamond Joe so much. Can we just make him VP for life
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Jun 11, 2014 18:45
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Agents are GO! posted:On the other hand, you could pull a pretty great Giles Corey off if that was the policy. I love you so much. "REPENT! REPENT OR WE WILL BLAZE YOU AT THE STAKE!"
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Jun 11, 2014 21:31
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You might be able to use his horrible as gently caress economics against him in GOTV efforts, if the Dems decide to try and contest for the seat. E: This song just came on my Spotify and is very appropriate for the Cantor-Buried Tales discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
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Jun 11, 2014 21:36
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breaklaw posted:Why should Brat risk anything at this point? If I was him I would only agree to one debate and then cancel it at the last minute, and barely even say a loving word until election day. gently caress interviews. Run a couple of ads in October and call it a wrap. Isn't that kind of what Cantor did? Let's hope it's exactly what Brat does  Like if the Democrats did a surprise massive GOTV push, could they take this without a huge gaff?
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Jun 11, 2014 21:43
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Sweeney Tom posted:Crying because he wasn't the one to take him down. I really, really hope that when Boehner retires he takes credit for engineering Cantor's defeat is like "Hey Eric, deal with it  ," mic drops, and walks off camera.
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Jun 11, 2014 22:04
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Joementum posted:Every time I think there might not be any more funny news about this, I'm wrong. What a loving tool. I hope someone, at some point showed up in jeans and stripped to their underwear when he complained. Magres fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 22:27
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Beamed posted:I don't get it. He's saying everyone is always happy as gently caress when Eric Cantor is finally gone from the room.
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Jun 11, 2014 22:38
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Family Values posted:Five charts that show how conservatives are driving partisan rancor in DC At this point I'm pushing towards the "gently caress Compromise" column solely because the Right has stopped, in any way, shape, or form, negotiating or being willing to compromise. It's like if you're haggling for something ta a flea market. Listed price is a hundred bucks, you offer like eighty and then:  : I'll give you eighty for it : Nope a hundred.: Ninety?: Nope a hundred.: Alright I'll pay you the hundred.: Nope I want 110, the sign says 110 and has always said 110, can't you read? (the sign clearly says 100): Alright how about we compromise at 105.: Ugh you loving cheap skate scum lord shitbag, fine 105.I'm delighted with the idea of actual compromise, I'm less than enthused about the "compromises" that have been happening the past few years.
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Jun 12, 2014 19:08
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computer parts posted:You can't honestly say this after the debt ceiling was passed with no concessions and a budget was passed with concessions to both sides not long afterwards. After years of complete bullshit obstructionism, which has still continued outside of the aforementioned times. On a (I pinky swear, cross my heart and hope to die) wholly unrelated note, I wonder how many 'REPEAL OBAMACARE' bills the House has passed now.
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Jun 12, 2014 19:11
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computer parts posted:Again, that's not true unless you're only calling the Tea Party as "the right". They've been largely unwilling to defy the Tea Party or break the Hastert Rule. Not universally unwilling, but largely. E: Look at poo poo like "The Grand Compromise." What was the ratio of cuts:tax raises Obama was willing to give? Like 5:1 or 10:1? I honestly don't remember off hand but it was huge Magres fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 19:14
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zoux posted:It actually speaks to my point because any election that is close enough to be decided by an individual vote is going to be decided by the courts. No individual vote is going to determine the outcome of an election, but that doesn't make them not matter. In a storm that causes a flood, no individual raindrop makes that flood happen, but without raindrops there is no flood.
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Alkydere posted:I live in Texas as well and I think that one should still vote. If only so you can go up to college Republicans and whisper in their ear "I voted for a black man". Or in 2016, "I voted for a woman" because whatever Hilary's sins (and there are many after how long she's been in D.C.) she'll be miles ahead of ANYONE the Republicans could suggest. This reminds me of a conversation a friend of mine had while I was in the room. He was playing Planetside 2 (a big, persistent world First Person Shooter) and his clan had just lost a fight against a clan that is led by a known virulent piece of poo poo (misogynistic, racist, homophobic. basically a skinhead) that he had a feud with (largely because of the aggressive terribleness) and the guy sends him a PM saying "How does it feel to lose to a white republican gun owner you tree-hugging hippy human being?" My friend responds "How does it feel to have a black man for president?" That was a good day zoux posted:These aren't very compelling reasons to participate in a corrupt system that fosters the illusion of choice while putting individuals who don't represent the concerns of you or any of the constituencies you care about into power. If you've got any better ideas for what to do, I'm all ears. Like genuinely, if I knew better poo poo to do I would. Magres fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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zoux posted:I do not. Even minorly, nearly inconsequentially affecting the outcomes of elections is better than nothing.
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Alkydere posted:Was said buddy a part of [GOKU] and fighting against the infamous racist, mysogonyst BCP, shitlord and master of the Enclave? Naw my friend is with TEST. RoyAwesome, if you know of him. The Enclave always seemed to have a special level of loathing and hatred for him, which clearly means that he was doing something right. My favorite parts of BCP's stream, when I watched it, were always when he'd have meltdowns over losing bases. I play a lot of DotA and DotA players have absolutely nothing on that guy when it comes to raging over video games. Holy poo poo 
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So as far as Democrats using populism to win votes goes, anyone got any thoughts on how a new sweep of public works projects would go over? Aside from the obvious "IT'S SOMETHING OBAMA WANTS SO ITS EEEVIIIILLLLLL" bullshit I just sat shooting the poo poo work a co-worker of mine (my immediate impression is he's moderately but not psychotically conservative, considering he said 'I was watching the news the other day - I forget which, I was flipping between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox) and he started getting into "Them Mexicans" (ohboyherewego) talking about how there are only X jobs and if we add more people then we're going to have more underemployment. I say to him "well, if we add more people, we add more demand and more jobs" and he says "yeah but what are they living on until then? Taxpayer money and welfare according to him. My response is "well poo poo let's put everyone to work with public works projects" and he goes "yknow, that's a good idea. Paying for it would be hard but we could do it and god knows we need our infrastructure rebuilt. Do it like FDR did, put everyone to work and rebuild America" etc etc etc. He's not a hard line conservative but good loving luck swaying any of them. He strikes me as something like an establishment Republican, maybe conservative leaning Independent, and when I said I'm for universal employment (which is, yknow, pretty Socialist) he said "well there are gonna be people that just don't wanna work but that's not a idea. We could use the infrastructure from public works" And in my head I went 'holy gently caress he just went from "them gosh darn Mexicans" to supporting a socialist idea. So, pick this apart? I think it's something that's a very Left idea that is palatable for moderate Conservatives. (also it's something to talk about that isn't bitching in circles about vote/don't vote)
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Amergin posted:If you get deficit reductions OR lower unemployment I think it would be more palatable. As it is most conservatives still think we're in a shithole economically and that now isn't the time to spend money on aliens. Do you mean AND instead of OR? Cause I'm pretty confident a sweep of public works projects making a bunch of jobs that literally did not exist before would lower unemployment. Like the big problem I see with it is that you either have to hike up taxes or eat a huge deficit, neither of which is going to be fun to sell.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Aren't large scale public works projects guaranteed to lower unemployment? What Amergin meant is that to sell this to the public, you have to get a lower deficit/unemployment first and THEN you can sell this to them, not that the program has to result in those for it to be sellable. He phrased it a little ambiguously is all
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Jun 12, 2014 22:37
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Fried Chicken posted:It would cost us about as much as we spent on Middle East adventures though We could have rebuilt this entire country's infrastructure and instead we went to the far side of the planet to go blow other people's infrastructure up. I will never not wish the most loving awful, agonizing things on the members of the Bush administration that perpetrated those wars.
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Zeitgueist posted:That the Democrats heavily supported.  SubponticatePoster posted:You advertise it as jobs going to good, hardworking Americans, since people working directly for the federal government will not be undocumented aliens. None of this "contract it out to private enterprise" poo poo. That would help with the xenophobic crowd, anyway. Yeah, I do government work right now and everyone has to provide proof of legal residence before we can start work.
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Jun 12, 2014 22:47
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Fried Chicken posted:David Frum is calling for a re-invasion of Iraq on twitter Hey if he'll agree to be the first pair of boots on the ground, let's do it. 
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Alexzandvar posted:Clinton isn't my first choice either but if Ted Cruz or some other republican moron becomes president it's probably the end of the world so I'm going to do my civic duty and vote for the lady who won't end the world. How is this a controversial thing? Yeah, it's lovely to not be pro gay rights because it's politically damaging, it's a whole other ball game to not be pro gay rights because you think gay people are subhuman scum who should be stoned to death as a matter of course. fade5 posted:There are times when a mild form of Accelerationism is a good thing. I'd say this is one of those times. Naw the accelerationism still isn't good, it's just outweighed by the fact that  CANTOR GOT HIS rear end WHIIIIPPPPEEEDDDDD
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Jun 13, 2014 00:32
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fool_of_sound posted:My posting, like US Politics, is extremely bad. That's some deep self-examination yo (Chipotle owns)
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Swan Oat posted:Juneteenth is not tomorrow but I had no idea it was celebrated outside of Texas. The most calorie intensive burrito I've ever had was like 1200 calories, and it would have been like 900 if I hadn't gotten double meat. Here's a guide on how to make Chipotle solidly healthy - Either get a burrito bowl with brown rice or a burrito with no rice, double chicken, veggies, some kind of hot sauce, cheese (their mozzarella actually has a reasonable amount of protein, to the point that you don't need to feel super guilty for getting it), and lettuce. There you go, you just ate like 800-900 calories and NINETY grams of protein, it's delicious, and it'll keep you full for the next five hours. I'm about 6'2" (185cm), 190 pounds (86kg), and I generally eat an unholy amount of food because I'm a behemoth. In spite of this, a good burrito will still keep me happy for hours. I love Chipotle. It's cheap, it's fast, and it's actually pretty healthy if you don't poo poo it up as best you can. Also, as others have discussed, their corporate practices aren't horrible and degrading to their employees and not earth-raping. They use a lot of organic and hormone free stuff.
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As far as Vodka goes, I really like Chopin. It's like 40 a bottle for pretty big bottles, and it's pretty tasty.
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Booze chat literally is not a derail. Like this thread's two express purposes are USPol and talking about how best to get drunk to handle the crippling emotional pain of USPol
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Hey Fried can we get a section of the OP each month dedicated to Goon recommendations on booze? Digging through boozechat is hard 
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Not emptyquoting I swear
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ReidRansom posted:They own. It's weird at first, but you get used to it. I've only used the Japanese type tough. A few button presses and you've got a nice clean dry rear end in a top hat, all from the comfort of a pre-warmed seat (also weird at first). Personally I wash my butt in the shower after I take a crap if I'm home. Takes like three minutes and it means I know that while I'm sitting around the house I can scratch my rear end and never worry about skidmarks. A friend of mine swears by wetwipes but idgi Magres fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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