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I would like to point something out: I liked Wall-E. Great movie. Here is where it all fell apart: No motherfucker would stay on those ships or even on earth the moment there was warp-drive. The Profit-motive of a capatalistic economy would take over. The ship hyper-drives back to earth from the other side of the goddamn galaxy in like, half a minute. If earth figured that poo poo out, you better believe that we would be sticking our cock into every planet galaxy wide for nothing other than the sheer satisfaction of it. I liked what they tried to do, but a ship slow-boating to earth, full of corpses arriving at a dead planet would have been a better ending. Skeletons piled against the exit doors with small scratches in the advanced armor plating. The last skeletons alive (the ones with the densest bones) scratched out "we lived". Wall-E sits there, broken, waiting for spare parts. Eve waiting, impatiently, as the ship approaches earth for a half-millennia. She exits the corpse-mess only to find the dead world, with her dead friends. I think that would have been a better ending.
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THS posted:it was a parable and the point was to critique consumer culture using a cartoon robot as the protagonist hth My suspension of disbelief was maintained until they hit hyperdrive. At that point I realized the technological level of humanity had progressed before they left earth, not after. Also, consumer culture wasn't the problem. It was indicative of bad storytelling. A capitalist market rewards companies to deal with the environmental problems because the citizens will demand it. As we see today, the green movement is rewarding companies with higher profit margins for providing environmentally sound products. There is no reason to abstain from technology (a clear subtext of the movie) or consumerism (another clear point), as those two alone would weaken our country. We need to be aware of what movies, especially poorly written ones, will do to the easily molded minds of our kids.
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Fandyien posted:i don't think its a gimmick, nobody would be clever enough to come up with poo poo like talking about his fat wife's dirty vagina for like ten pages in the gay jihad thread I'm sorry your loneliness and self-disgust is being projected onto me. I don't recall talking about anything other than  My Wife with no adjectives attached. I hope this doesn't effect your ability to realize the necessary aspects of capitalism and why movies like this and "The Lorax" are really just crimes against our childrens' education.
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THS posted:a discrepancy in your gimmick posting It was a great movie. That is why I said it up front. But unfortunately, the suspension of disbelief, and the subsequent loss of faith in the message of the movie bothered me. The love story between two robots was very cute and wonderful. Too bad Wall-E wasn't built for pleasure, only speed.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:44
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Concerned Citizen posted:how did you use this thread tag You can use them now obviously.
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Jun 10, 2014 19:17
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sleeptalker posted:He's also an actual fascist. I don't know since when this became an insult to thrown around casually, rather than an actual description of someones' political leanings. I'm a Utilitarian Corporatist, at least attempt to get it right.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:20
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sleeptalker posted:Explain to me the difference. You should just go into my post history and look up how I explain the aberrations in the political system (and how to outlaw them) and how we need to ensure the societal betters (Job Creators like me) and doing the voting and ensuring this country remains strong by ensuring capitalism is a driving force for culture exportation throughout the world. It is all very enlightening and helps preserve the law and order we are all used to with the personal freedoms we have grown so accustomed to.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:29
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Moridin920 posted:yeah I think even literal fascists were still more for welfare and helping out the poor than Rhonyn If the poor bothered to stop eating their WIC or Foodstamps or fat government assistance checks, they may get off their asses and actually get to work at one of the strong companies. Unemployment for the newly graduated has dropped to only 11%, which is pretty remarkable, considering it was pushing over 35% in 2009. The stronger the business environment is, the better the poors will be.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:34
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Effectronica posted:Hey, he throws dinner parties, you know Garden Parties. There is a difference.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:45
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:he is a soulless HR drone, he is actually perfectly in line with design standards. HR Director. The Drones work for me. They are to design standards, I selected them. I exceed design standards in every way.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:50
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Moridin920 posted:you're a cerebrate, is what you're saying. the employees are the zerg Oh darling, Capitalism is the overmind, and yes, we are all its Bitch. I just happen to be in charge of a great many zerg.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:53
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Moridin920 posted:nah that analogy doesn't work because capitalism isn't a sentient thing. capitalism here would be like the overmind's telepathy or whatever it uses to control everything I don't think you realize that Capitalism is the invisible will of millions of people focusing on the dream of wealth. If that isn't sentient I don't know what you are thinking of, but it isn't correct. Capitalism is definitely sentient, and it knows our needs and wants and who has what our needs and wants and how to get them to us. We just need to have faith.
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Alexzandvar posted:THE GREAT CHAIN I was thinking more like the "great material continuum".
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