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Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Reene posted:

In deference to that other thread, post about a time a game managed to make you break into a cold buttsweat in sheer abject dread.

The oWoD game I was in where we realized that the GM's wife convinced him to start turning the game into her slashfic of our characters. I may have posted about this game before.

Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jul 1, 2014

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Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Bieeardo posted:

Thank you for prompting my morning horrified shriek. I was worried it wouldn't come out before noon.

That whole campaign was a loving cavalcade of terrible things. Like, I'm pretty sure it hit every "this is a terrible gaming thing" point we regularly bring up around these parts, the highlights being insane power creep, DBZ-style combat heightening, two Mary Sues (one was the GM's pet NPC, the other was his wife's character), every fight scene being The Matrix, enemies never retreating no matter how badly we destroyed them, the aforementioned shipping-type thing, and the hard railroaded plot.

Someday I'll write a long thing about it for the Worst Experiences thread.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

ImpactVector posted:

That's why the players in my group take it the other way:


Why are you charging the d10 with the 8 face-up? You'll throw off the calibration! Everybody knows you let your dice sit with the highest value showing.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

*squint* Oh, so it is. Looked like a d10 with the dim lighting.

Carry on, then.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Ratpick posted:

It's been a while since I've watched Evangelion, but wasn't pretty much the entire idea of that show to on one hand make sense of the fact that the pilots in mecha anime tend to be teenagers (i.e. in the case of Evangelion you need a sympathetic connection between the pilot and the host spirit occupying the EVA, so teenagers who have lost a family member in an EVA-related incident are the best candidates) while at the same time trying to really make the point that using teenagers as mecha pilots is pretty sick (because teenagers tend to be really fragile and unstable, so making them fight big monsters from outer space in giant robot suits is bound to gently caress them up)?

Well, there's also the fact that the guy who was writing it more or less had a nervous breakdown during the process, so...

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I never got into Eva (thank God) despite being in Animes Club in college when it came stateside, but I know enough about it that I can appreciate this.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Elfgames posted:

Noway are you crazy? You always charge your dice with 1 facing up! A.)it uses up most of the 1's rolls so you get less. B .)it puts the energy directly into the highest value. And C.) it shows all ones instead of something dumb like 2 6's and an 8.

Wrong wrong wrong. You put the highest number up so a) the die learns what number should be showing, and b) it settles a bit, so the mass goes down to whatever face is opposite the highest number, causing it to roll that number more.

Seriously, it's like you don't even know your basic gamer physics.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

So apparently the D&D Basic set has a "thank you" to RPGPundit at the end. I don't have screenshots but Adam Keobel mentioned it on G+.





Seriously, gently caress this hobby.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Oh, I'm completely done with D&D now thanks to this, yeah.

The problem is that they just legitimized one of the most toxic people in the hobby in what's the "flagship" game of said hobby, like it or not.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Darth Various posted:

So, do they call him "RPGPundit" or use his real name?

I'm not downloading it to find out, but apparently it's RPGPundit. Because we all know how he feels about his real name.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Oh yeah, I forgot about him too.

So that's two people who've publicly said they hope people "like me" will die or commit suicide in the credits.

e:

Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 3, 2014

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

It should be pointed out too that Mearls is a fan of Pundit's blog. So there's that.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Fuego Fish posted:

How can you be a fan of Pundit? Like, legitimately, I am curious. What particular facet of his giant rambling posts that don't go anywhere is engaging enough for someone to go "wow, I should read more of these!"

I mean for God's sake I can't even get to the end of one, I cannot fathom the sort of mind that would regularly read them. You'd have to be the kind of person who'd find enjoyment in going through an endless parade of boring, poorly-written text that- oh right, Mearls designed 5e, well I guess that kinda explains that.

I mentioned this before, but (supposedly) Pundit's blog is supposed to be an Andy Kaufman-esque joke.

The problem is that, even if that's the case, there are a lot of people who follow him and take him seriously. Hell, all of RPGSite is based around his personality.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

e: I'm sorry, I just needed to get that off my chest before I blew up.

Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jul 4, 2014

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

ProfessorCirno posted:

Legit do you mind if I copy+paste this elsewhere to help point out why I'm not supporting this game?

At this point, sure.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

It's sad that Zak is pretty much the cause of or related to every meltdown post I have here.

It's sadder that it's been more than one meltdown post.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Bucnasti posted:

But you also have to remember that for every shitheel that makes noise on the internet there's ten perfectly rational people who are happy and have better things to do than post on crappy little websites.

Yeah, but the happy people aren't the problem.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

ProfessorCirno posted:

EM, apologies in advance and you certainly don't have to, but do you by any chance have links or whatever to Zak S's crusade antics? It looks like he turned most of his poo poo to private, and the KOREA TABLETOP GAMING page doesn't seem to believe this kinda poo poo actually happens.

No I don't. I know it's on G+, I think it might have been in one of Sage's threads. We have each other blocked (at least, I've blocked him), and he's smart enough to only share most of his poo poo with limited circles.

Someone mentioned it in a different G+ thread and given his history I see no reason to doubt it's true.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

grassy gnoll posted:

Be the change you want to be, motherfuckers. Run some games that address the issues you care about, publish your own games or supplements on the indie markets, get at least one new person a year to play our dumb games of pretend, 'cause that's what it takes to make this hobby not suck.

d20 roll dice erryday

Ignoring the problem does not magically make it go away. If anything, it makes it worse.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

MadScientistWorking posted:

If someone has a succinct bunch of horrible quotes from them I'm just going to try calling Hasbro for the hell of it.

Zak's being Zak here, apparently.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Tollymain posted:

they call it pathfinder unchained but idk it still looks pretty chained to the d20 framework

Wait, what?

(one google later)

Oh good grief.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Nancy_Noxious posted:

From a discussion on the matter in the Paizo forums:

All Pathfinder is is 3.5 backwards compatibility! Because it's just 3.5!

Oy, my head.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I hate to say it, but I doubt it's going to do any good. My G+ feed is chock full of "well he's never been terrible to me so everyone is making things up" and "how dare people GATEKEEP" (despite the fact that that's what people like Zak do when they try to drive out people they don't like) and other assorted bullshit.

Like the people who are complaining are just making poo poo up because who loving knows.

Seriously, gently caress this hobby.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I really do wish people would stop making DW playbooks and make things like campaign frameworks and adventures and stuff. We need more GM-facing stuff.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I'm honestly surprised Lemon hasn't come in yet and bugged me about the crashed spaceship/space gods DW module I'm never going to finish.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Lemon Curdistan posted:


I do actually need to sleep from time to time.

The GM-facing stuff doesn't really sell and isn't as fun as making player content, which is why there's a lot less of it. But yes, people should make more adventures and stuff.
Speaking as someone who spends most of his gaming time GMing, I enjoy making it. :( Admittedly, my GM prep is pretty minimal to the point of I generally don't know what I'm going to do in a session until people are done unpacking their sheets and dice.

quote:

How's Barrier Peaks coming along? :v:
On hold due to me hating the hobby.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Lemon Curdistan posted:

It is similar in that there's a lot of stuff being done by people who don't understand how to design for the system or what makes AW a good PbtA game, that part is true. The difference is that PbtA isn't a garbage system, so it's actually possible to make good PbtA stuff. :v:

On that subject, Michael Sands is doing a new edition of Monster of the Week, because (as he put it) "PbtA technology has advanced significantly since I wrote MotW!"

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Lemon Curdistan posted:

Hopefully, he's going to turn it into more of its own game and less of "core AW with some vague concessions to Supernatural" - it desperately needs a real mechanical framework for investigation (with as much detail as DW puts into its combat framework).

Well, he's been working on it with Fred Hicks (who's recently discovered PbtA games) and Fred's been hacking moves, so it's pretty likely.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

In other news, I have a registered sex offender signing up for my 13th Age organized play table.

Joy.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

SunAndSpring posted:

I wonder what kind of class Aatrek likes to play. Cleric?

:rimshot:

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Evil Sagan posted:

And since he plays TRPGs, it's probably exactly as bad as you imagine.
He pretty much "showed up" at last week's game and asked to play. He wasn't terrible, but he was one of those guys who comes up with a lame gimmick for his character and just kind of runs it into the ground. Other than that he seemed okay.

One of the people in my group forwarded me his offender registry a little while ago, and I sent him an email basically saying "this was brought to my attention, do not show up". We also let the store owner know since he probably doesn't want any of that action either.

e:

SageNytell posted:

Maybe don't let that happen? I understand inclusivity but this hobby has enough problem players to being with without risking someone with a known, criminal problem in a group of strangers. Is your organized play table open to minors or held in a location frequented by minors?

The only time I've ever been in your position the sex offender was applying to join a family recreation center with a bunch of facilities and programs for children, so my decision was a bit more cut-and-dry.
It's in a public store, but doesn't matter. Guy was busted for child porn, he's not welcome at or near my table.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

SageNytell posted:

If this is a location frequented by minors, you may also wish to bring this to the attention of the local police, as may the store owner. Many offenders have court orders preventing them from going to such places to prevent repeat offenses.
I'll talk to the store owner about it when I see him. He does Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon various nights, so he'd want to know. The guy isn't marked as "INFORM THE COPS NOW" but still.

quote:

That sucks, man. That really sucks.
It does suck in a "why the hell is this a thing I have to deal with", but believe me it wasn't something I had to dwell on when I was deciding what to do.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

SageNytell posted:

I do not want someone who collected kiddie porn in a shop that is frequented by kids under any circumstances, full stop.
This.

This whole thing wasn't made public to the group at large, I just sent him an email saying "this was brought to my attention LINK Please do not show up tonight or sign up for future games."

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

There's also the fact that I have to look to my own personal comfort, and (should it come up) the comfort of the rest of the people in the group.

Now, if the store owner decides he doesn't want to address this at all? That's fine, it's ultimately his store. But at the game table run by Evil Mastermind, I have to look at how things will affect both myself the group I run games for.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Winson_Paine posted:

This is the goofiest derail.

I am intervening here and ending the CHILD PORN DERAIL. Creeping on a dude to ruin his life is certainly a thing, however contacting the cops (or his parole officer) will not ruin it. If he is not violating the terms of his parole, they won't do anything. If he is then he is violating the terms of his parole and someone should be contacted. That said, this has probably progressed about as far as it can go. To sum up, child porn is bad, rehabilitation services are limited, and parole violations are bad. Now please go back to talking about dumbass elfgames. The politics of sex offender rehabilitation are beyond the scope of this thread and this forum, it would make a fine topic for D&D.

So does that mean I can't say how this turned out?

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Winson_Paine posted:

You can finish the anecdote about a game store, which is perfectly relevant. It is the extended argument about the inadequacy of the criminal justice system to deal with sex offenders or whatever that I am outlawing.

Okay, cool.

I did bring the guy aside when I got to the store and had the following two-sentence conversation:

Me: "I was informed about your registration."
Him: "I'm out."

When he left, I informed the rest of the group what happened. Unsurprisingly everyone was okay with him being gone. The guy did contact me after the fact to say that it "wasn't cool" that I told everyone; I'm guessing that's because someone else in the group told the store owner but gently caress if I'm going to feel guilty over this.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

MadScientistWorking posted:

None of those are the right genres though. Its supposed to be some sort of horror procedural but your right about the horror aspect being vague.
I think that's more a problem with how "modern horror" is handled in general nowadays. It's hard for a game to really have that feeling of fear if everyone's got shotguns and magic and flamethrowers. You don't get that sense of helplessness or decline that (to me) makes for good horror.

Which is fine! Sometimes you want to do something about the slow slide into madness that is dealing with the supernatural on a daily basis, and other times you just want to stomp monsters.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I'm pretty sure that's it, and even then Tabletop Day is focused more on board games than RPGs.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

I would just like to go on record and say the Strands of Fate is the worst loving implementation of Fate out there, even with cash-in games taken into account, and way be one of the worst games I've ever had to make a character for.

e: just talked the GM into using FAE instead, partially because I bought the group copies for Xmas.

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Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

The thing about Strands of Fate is that it came out around the same time as SotC, meaning it's working off an outdated version of the Fate rules, but it's also written with the core idea of "I want to make Fate more like 3.X".

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