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Gatekeeper posted:well, yeah, but jesse figured out the whole thing. walt made jesse think gus had taken the ricin cigarette from him and poisoned brock. then he makes jesse think that he's just a klutz who loses poison and makes hasty assumptions. walt was loving the dude's brain, and jesse finally put the whole thing together. it seemed kind of straightforward, although maybe people just have a hard time accepting that jesse put all those pieces together at once. i dunno, jesse finally being able to see one of walt's schemes in its entirety instead of always being at best a step or two behind seemed like a good progression in his arc. But see, the kid wasn't even poisoned with ricin so Jesse would have remained clueless
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Yeah I never really understood that scene. Walt didn't even use the ricin on Brock so why did it loving matter. That was the worst part of the series. Honestly I just hated Jessie. How am I supposed to feel sympathy for a character who wasn't above selling meth to recovering addicts at an AA meeting.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:32
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Chuck Tanner posted:But see, the kid wasn't even poisoned with ricin so Jesse would have remained clueless yeah god knows nobody would ever draw the conclusion that a scheming chemist who has repeatedly demonstrated his proclivity for different types of poison as well as convoluted manipulations would have poisoned a child in order to get Jesse to do what he wanted him to
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Jul 2, 2014 03:36
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indigi posted:yeah god knows nobody would ever draw the conclusion that a scheming chemist who has repeatedly demonstrated his proclivity for different types of poison as well as convoluted manipulations would have poisoned a child in order to get Jesse to do what he wanted him to Not when a doctor literally told him it was a common occurrence And then all his fears about Walt stealing the cigarette were alleviated when he found it in his roomba He had no reason to suspect Walt anymore and that whole incident would be just a faint memory to him after that. But we are supposed to believe that he held on to it this whole time and always suspected which is bullshit
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Jul 2, 2014 03:43
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indigi posted:yeah god knows nobody would ever draw the conclusion that a scheming chemist who has repeatedly demonstrated his proclivity for different types of poison as well as convoluted manipulations would have poisoned a child in order to get Jesse to do what he wanted him to Was it ever really explained how the ricin was stolen anyway or whatever? That whole thing seemed really convoluted from the beginning.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:44
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Huell lifted it off him when he went to see SaulChuck Tanner posted:Not when a doctor literally told him it was a common occurrence when they made the ricin Walt specifically said that he chose it cause doctors overlook it and it'd look like stress and the flu or something. so Jesse knows Walt wants to not only poison people but obfuscate the cause from doctors. Chuck Tanner posted:And then all his fears about Walt stealing the cigarette were alleviated when he found it in his roomba yeah the cigarette he found in the roomba he'd checked a million times while Walt - who repeatedly lied, distorted the truth, and manipulated Jesse over the course of the series - happened to be therw. Chuck Tanner posted:He had no reason to suspect Walt anymore and that whole incident would be just a faint memory to him after that. But we are supposed to believe that he held on to it this whole time and always suspected which is bullshit the incident where the child he cared about of the woman he loved was poisoned and hospitalized that he believed himself to have caused? that incident was a faint memory? and it's not like there are years between that and when he figured out what happened. it was only a couple of months in-show time. Jesse was a dumbfuck but really it wasn't a tough puzzle to piece together
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Jul 2, 2014 03:49
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indigi posted:
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Jul 2, 2014 03:58
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Chuck Tanner posted:im currently watching this i just realized that Psych and Breaking bad both have black guys named gus in them coincidence?
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Jul 2, 2014 04:00
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Is this from the show with Malcolm in middle dad??? tia
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Jul 2, 2014 06:17
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gggiiimmmppp posted:It was actually a really good scene and that's exactly how memory works, he realized he didn't have his weed and that sausage fingers must have picked his pocket which immediately connected to that other time he was convinced that sausage fingers couldn't have picked anyone's pockets because he had fingers like sausages it's hilarious that the world's fattest, blackest man who you can hear breathing asthmatically from 3 states over is supposed to be a master thief with the grace and dexterity of a ballerina
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Jul 2, 2014 06:19
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lol you don't really need to be graceful or dexterous to pick a junkie's pocket
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Jul 2, 2014 06:23
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Never got past the second episode. Whole thing seemed kind of dumb.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:23
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Carl Seitan posted:Never got past the second episode. Whole thing seemed kind of dumb. it is pretty much, there's a lot of stupid bullshit esp in later seasons but you're so on board at that point you don't gaf
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Jul 2, 2014 06:26
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Jul 2, 2014 06:30
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jesse hosed his sister and thier child is NOT the rightful heir to the seven kingdoms, pass it on
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Jul 2, 2014 06:32
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I remember jesse figuring it out and I remember enjoying the show but I don't remember caring about minor details ruining it for me
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Jul 2, 2014 06:33
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Frostwerks posted:jesse hosed his sister and thier child is NOT the rightful heir to the seven kingdoms, pass it on jesse, jaime hmm are they brothers
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Jul 2, 2014 06:37
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jesse's bitch rear end little brother got jesse kicked out because of a little bit of pot. e: pot that was the little brothers!!
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Jul 2, 2014 06:44
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gggiiimmmppp posted:It was actually a really good scene and that's exactly how memory works, he realized he didn't have his weed and that sausage fingers must have picked his pocket which immediately connected to that other time he was convinced that sausage fingers couldn't have picked anyone's pockets because he had fingers like sausages it was actually rly bad writing
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Jul 2, 2014 06:47
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killyoureparents posted:jesse's bitch rear end little brother got jesse kicked out because of a little bit of pot. it runs in the family
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Jul 2, 2014 06:47
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indigi posted:seriously Walt was a terrible human being but he did try to do right by Jesse pretty much all the time. how many times did he risk (and eventually give up) his own life to save that kid? and every time Jesse does something horrible of his own free will or falls back into being a pathetic addict he externalizes all his problems onto someone else (usually Walt) and goes and does the dumb poo poo. gently caress him. I was so bitter when he drove away. good thing he'll definitely wind up in jail cause he has no loving money or connections anymore. where's he even gonna go. gently caress him Walt manipulated him every step. Everything Walt said to Jesse was puppetmaster mind-loving. The only honest thing he ever said to Jesse was "I'm sorry about Jane" and "I want this", and only after Jesse pointed a gun at him and told him to tell the truth for once.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:50
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"BEEP BOOP" -OP 
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stratdax posted:Walt manipulated him every step. Everything Walt said to Jesse was puppetmaster mind-loving. The only honest thing he ever said to Jesse was "I'm sorry about Jane" and "I want this", and only after Jesse pointed a gun at him and told him to tell the truth for once. also honest things he said were "run" and "Jesse they're coming for you you have to do it now" and he gave him that 5 mili like seriously he was a rear end in a top hat but he always looked out for Jesse
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Jul 2, 2014 07:20
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I liked badger he was a hell of a character
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Jul 2, 2014 07:22
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:I liked badger he was a hell of a character ugh I met him at a party in SF and called him Brandon this was almost 6 months ago and I still feel like such a dick about it. I'm blushing right now and feel nauseated
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Jul 2, 2014 07:23
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gggiiimmmppp posted:It was actually a really good scene and that's exactly how memory works, he realized he didn't have his weed and that sausage fingers must have picked his pocket which immediately connected to that other time he was convinced that sausage fingers couldn't have picked anyone's pockets because he had fingers like sausages this guy gets it
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The thing is that Jesse never really shows any awareness of any particulars of the plan. All he says on the subject is "You picked my pocket? You could have taken the ricin, WALT BAD MAN". Which, considering that Walt's plan was pretty dumb ("Let's make Jesse want to kill me but when he comes to kill me hopefully I can talk him down so well that he'll be even more on my side sixty seconds after trying to kill me than he was before I gave him reason to want to kill me"), made it look like he had completely forgotten details like "it was a different poison" and just jumped straight to the (true) conclusion. I think Jesse could have figured it out but the scene did a pretty poor job of conveying him figuring it out, which is pretty disappointing considering that it was a pivotal scene for the story's conclusion. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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indigi posted:seriously Walt was a terrible human being but he did try to do right by Jesse pretty much all the time. how many times did he risk (and eventually give up) his own life to save that kid? and every time Jesse does something horrible of his own free will or falls back into being a pathetic addict he externalizes all his problems onto someone else (usually Walt) and goes and does the dumb poo poo. gently caress him. I was so bitter when he drove away. good thing he'll definitely wind up in jail cause he has no loving money or connections anymore. where's he even gonna go. gently caress him you have an evil heart
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the only people who don't like that scene are people who would be too dumb to figure that poo poo out if it happened to them. but not everyone is that dumb i'm afraid, boys. like lol i remember there was one guy in the thread who didn't realize what jesse was supposed to be figuring out, and he freaked out on everyone posting "JESSE FIGURED OUT WALT POISONED BROCK" and accused them of having an expedited broadcast which allowed them to be already watching the next scene where it's spelled out explicitly
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Jul 2, 2014 08:26
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Benedick Cuckold posted:the only people who don't like that scene are people who would be too dumb to figure that poo poo out if it happened to them. but not everyone is that dumb i'm afraid, boys. this is correct, breaking bad was too intelligent for scrubs, if there's something you didn't like about it it's probably your own fault
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Jul 2, 2014 08:33
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Kyrie eleison posted:this is correct, breaking bad was too intelligent for scrubs, if there's something you didn't like about it it's probably your own fault breaking bad was a pretty simple show, actually. i'd hate to think how dumb you'd have to be not to get it
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Jul 2, 2014 08:34
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Benedick Cuckold posted:breaking bad was a pretty simple show, actually. i'd hate to think how dumb you'd have to be not to get it It's not about not "getting it". I understand what they were trying to convey It's about lovely writing
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Jul 2, 2014 08:38
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im mad that people liked that show I didnt like that has been over forever for a year AMA
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Jul 2, 2014 08:42
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even when goons are right about a work of fiction being good or bad it's always for the most retarded, irrelevant reasons conceivable i mean seriously every single time without fail
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Jul 2, 2014 08:46
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Benedick Cuckold posted:breaking bad was a pretty simple show, actually. i'd hate to think how dumb you'd have to be not to get it you have to actually engage your brain a little and have a decent sense of judgment to enjoy breaking bad. these traits will only hinder your ability to watch scrub-tier shows Chuck Tanner posted:It's not about not "getting it". I understand what they were trying to convey the writing was extremely good
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Jul 2, 2014 08:46
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im glad people still dont understand obvious plot points/scenes in this show I was worried that it would stop when the series ended
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Jul 2, 2014 08:48
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I really like breaking bad
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Jul 2, 2014 09:23
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Mr. White, you're Heisenburg, bitch
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Jul 2, 2014 09:25
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I thought that Jesse arriving at that conclusion was reasonable enough, but he didn't quite have enough to go on to rage out and burn down Walt's house and jeopardize everything. Either way it didn't detract from my enjoyment of the final season in any way.
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sorry I was too busy posting  to actually pay attention to the show and not miss basic plot details
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