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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Yeah I went and looked up a few old youtube interviews with Lois back when she was first announced as a replacement judge and I'm sure she'll be great.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Factor Mystic posted:

Not enough red-haired women. Why didn't casting make their quota this year?

They're taking the show in a bold new direction. :colbert:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Dr Zaius posted:

There is no way Cig Neutron is that guy's real name.

Meet Cig Neutron!

https://vimeo.com/24663663
http://cigneutron.blogspot.com.au/ (:nws: for Rocksteady & BeBop's tits)


Yeah "Cig Neutron" seems to be a character he invented which he absorbed into his real life. I can totally see Glenn and Neville digging his aesthetic and design sense so I hope he stays around for a while and puts some crazy poo poo onto the stage.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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PicklePants posted:

Holy poo poo! Did I see the start of a Kaiju challenge?

Their set builders made tiny little skyscrapers for the stage. :neckbeard:

Wikipedia lists the next 5 episode titles and none of them seem to match a kaiju theme so it looks like we'll have to wait at least 6 weeks for that episode.

One of the makeups in the opening credits montage almost seemed like it was inspired by old Monty Python sketches, it's an incredibly fat dude in a suit carrying a huge fish with GOODNIGHT stencilled across it. A Monty Python episode would be amazing but I'm guessing it's just wacky ol' Cig Neutron pulling out some crazy poo poo for a regular challenge.


KungFu Grip posted:

I know it's silly to harp on, but going "you guys aren't on the show yet!" and then having them last a whole show is really dumb.

Especially when they would have signed a bunch of waivers and NDAs and gone through induction and there'd be a complete crew of cameramen and producers following their every step.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Kung Fu Jesus posted:

I hope what we saw is not an indication of the level of talent. Because there was like 1-2 that were any good.

It was a 4 hour challenge with limited materials and no sculpting as well as a surprise twist halfway through so it was pretty inevitable that the results would mostly suck. It was actually a really good first challenge from the competitor's point of view since it really rammed home that they need to work super fast, to adapt to problems on the fly and manage the three priorities of A) concept, B) overall look/initial impression and C) fine details and paintwork, and that if you gently caress up any of those elements you'll be sent home. For the viewers, unfortunately, it was a pretty low key first episode since it was pretty much just a foundation challenge and not the full three day contest we're used to.

I thought they mostly did okay for the conditions they were working under. I feel sorry for the two people who got eliminated because they were probably thinking "Okay, it's day one, we'll get a taste of what's to come and someone will win immunity or something" but nope, they got put through the wringer and kicked out without even seeing the dorm house.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Blazing Ownager posted:

It's always kind of sad when they are introducing someone and pull a "Responsible for this great movie, this great movie, and this great movie and most recently this huge steaming pile of poo poo."

McKenzie's introduction for Lois Burwell mentioned that she'd worked on The Fifth Element, War of the Worlds and Lincoln. I'll pay Fifth Element but I would have listed the other two way behind some of her other productions like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart or The Princess Bride. She got an Oscar for Braveheart and was nominated for Saving Private Ryan.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Basebf555 posted:

One or two of these are passable I guess but most of them are pretty poo poo.

Yeah, the concepts on a lot of those were terrible and they would have needed AMAZING work to salvage them so they were pretty much screwed from the start.


Edit: the contestants are probably going to be confused as hell after the judging this episode.
"We gave you peanuts and you made a half human/half peanut character? That's way too literal, you suck!"
"We gave you a tuna and you made a half human/half tuna character? That's brilliant, we love you!"

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Jul 30, 2014

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Looks like some of the contestants became good friends over the course of this season. Cig Neutron's cosplay buddy Rannie tweeted this photo of their Face Off viewing party with Keaghlan, George, Rachael and Sasha in attendance. I think that might be Barry next to Sasha as well.


https://twitter.com/supervillain1/status/494531923276873728/photo/1




Also they're all Twitter buddies with cute blonde model Megan who always acts her heart out on the judging stage and she's exactly as nice and bubbly as you'd expect. :buddy:
https://twitter.com/meggiejean13

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Also you just had to look at the tuna guy and you immediately had an idea of what his speech patterns would be like, what kind of business he'd be in, how he'd treat his henchmen, how he'd talk to the protagonist, etc etc.. He was just oozing personality.

The peanut guy's face actually had a lot of character but the overall effect was hampered by so many dumb design decisions.

The rat guy was a terrible character. He had a generic rat/bunny face which didn't show any characterization in any particular direction. They could have made him look sneaky or cowardly or untrustworthy but they didn't have the chops to pull it off. Props to Sasha for trying to incorporate the 'tick tock' aspect but WTF kind of character is a rat bomber?

The rest felt like gimmick background characters rather than a big bad mob character.


Here's SyFy's gallery for the episode.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jul 31, 2014

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Nooooooo I liked Gwen. :(


LabyaMynora posted:

My first thought when I noticed that was that it looked like a tip of penis with a pee hold and then I couldn't unsee it.



The face piece is badly asymmetrical and the entire cowl is off centre. The design was awful anyway, this is what happens when you don't fully embrace Mr Westmore's advice and make something halfway between the new concept and your horrible old concept.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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smackfu posted:

Easter Island stones are stone colored, so the aliens would have been stone colored too... That's some fine logic there.

Especially since the Moai originally had huge white eyes made out of coral, many of them had Pukao hats/topknots made out of reddish volcanic stone and there's evidence that a bunch of the statues were painted and had carved tattoo patterns as well (almost all of which has since been lost to erosion). When they were originally erected they would have been really colourful.
But I guess a 30 second Wikipedia search and a brief explanation at the judging stage was too much to ask? :shrug:

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Aug 7, 2014

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Doc should've made a Moai-shaped space helmet and stuck it over his amphibian alien's head, or even had him just carrying it. I'm actually a little surprised that no one really pushed the 'Alien artifacts mistaken as chimeric body parts' angle. I guess the Egyptian alien with the headdress-shaped crest was almost there.

Gwen also should have given her 'tribal demon' a hosed up space suit patched back together with leather and hides but I guess it's a bit late for her to learn from that mistake.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Also what happened to the "Life v Death" theme???

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Factor Mystic posted:

And yeah, getting stuck with Easter Island would've sucked. The only way to survive is to just maximize the obvious. Big, flat, strong, angular. Killer paint to make that thing look ancient. Eg, not a penis-head-sad-fish-guy.

'Killer Paint' and 'Not A Penis Head' should be written on the walls of the lab in 6 foot tall letters

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Doc and Jason really redeemed themselves this week, if you'd shown me the final makeups without telling me who made them there's no way I would have connected them with that winning entry based on their previous efforts. I like Sasha and Cakeboss but it feels like they're barely skating through and I've got a feeling that when they do gently caress up they're gonna screw the pooch all the way.


Oraculum Animi posted:

All these tree people and they didn't even mention Groot. Are they not allowed to just mention a character from a movie in theater? Looks like it would be good advertisement.

They probably filmed these episodes months and months ago and the contestants might not have been all that familiar with Groot, although I'm sure there would have been a few images of him around back then. I was also a bit surprised that they brought up the rapey trees from Evil Dead as an example for the contestants. :v:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Fejsze posted:

And I was not aware that parts would be removed if the model couldn't carry them. Makes sense, but I think this is the first time something was taken away for that reason.

The weeping willow branches looked like they were pretty light and wouldn't have been a problem for the model but I think they fell off under their own weight because they weren't attached at all properly. I think they were just jammed into the back of the costume instead of being anchored down.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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God drat it Stella,

EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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mind the walrus posted:

On another note I'm finding Mackenzie Pierce is somehow looking even more gorgeous this season than she has before :allears:.

Hopefully McKenzie Westmore doesn't read this thread, she'd be pretty pissed off that you mistook her for porn star Mackenzee Pierce. :v:

Although she is known to work topless on occasion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec1YTF7tPUY

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Aug 21, 2014

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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If she'd hosed up the paint job it would have been horrendous.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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mind the walrus posted:

I'm sticking by my nickname of "Sasha the Savant", although by this point I'm fairly sure she just plays it up because she doesn't want to come across as an arrogant prodigy of sorts.

Her speech pattern and the way she wobbles her head when she talks always makes her look and sound drunk whenever she talks. It annoyed me at first but it's one of my favourite parts of the show now. :allears:


mind the walrus posted:

Well this is interesting. From the Crocodile thread in GBS:

Ha, I completely forgot I posted that.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Factor Mystic posted:

I'm SO happy they're finally doing something like this, because you KNOW they're all going to be awesome.

I've got my fingers crossed that they're testing the waters and will make this a regular seasonal event if it works well, or even do it more often.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Basebf555 posted:

This isn't a knock against anyone because they all used the past contestants to their advantage and got the most out of them, but I think Neville benefited the most from the two he chose. He could just oversee everything while Anthony and Miranda just worked like machines sculpting his ideas at breakneck speed. Without those two sculpting I don't think he could have produced pieces so finished looking in that amount of time. There may not have been two better sculptors in the entire run of the show than Anthony and Miranda and he ended up with both of them.

And even then they only barely got finished pieces onto the stage, but Neville is such a loveable goofy dork I can't hold anything against him. :allears:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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"Pull your socks up" :haw:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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chapstickie posted:

I think she was trying to be clever but couldn't pull off the reindeer head.

She wasn't even close.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Oh man I was really worried for George there, glad to see that the judges saw something in it and put him in the 'safe' category.

The quality of the makeups was pretty drat good overall this week, the contestants are really hitting their stride now.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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an overdue owl posted:

Maybe I'm cynical but I find it hard to believe any smart contestant (but then there was tornado girl...) would give an honest answer to that question rather than be thinking about how that answer is probably going to be used on a show like this.

"What was your biggest fear during childhood?"
"Um ... wicked cool robots?"
"Yeah nice try, I'll just put down 'spiders' for you."

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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mind the walrus posted:

It honestly makes the way she screwed up the veins on that serial killer makeup all the more baffling, especially since she y'know, has a tablet on-hand and could just look up the drat anatomy.

Didn't she paint those veins in during the final few seconds of last looks or something? She was probably flustered as all hell.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Yeah I was a bit surprised that Dina didn't get top looks but Cig and Drew just totally nailed their application. I guess Rachael and George's terrible applications also bumped Sasha up into the "Missed the point but definitely not in the bottom" safe zone.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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The base idea of the challenge of "Merge a classic mythological creature with a high school stereotype you'd never expect them to fall into" was a good one since it gave us stuff like a minotaur nerd, a dumb goblin who'd somehow ended up a geek and a happy lively faun who'd gone emo. The goblin jock was the flipside of the minotaur nerd since one was mixing a muscular mythological creature with a wimpy human stereotype and the other was a small wimpy mythological creature mixed with a large muscular human stereotype but Cig lucked out because minotaurs don't have to be hugely muscular and nerds don't have to be tiny so the concepts could be merged without too much difficulty. George was fuckin' robbed because goblins pretty much have to be tiny and weak and jocks pretty much have to be big and strong and he had to somehow come up with a character that was both at the same time. His options were to create a little scrawny character which was somehow a jock or create a giant muscular goblin that didn't turn into an orc or an ogre or something in the middle that was vaguely goblin-ish and jock-ish. The bland middle route was the only safe option but George missed it and he was hosed right from the start. It was really obvious at the end that he never nailed down the concept so his sculpt and his application both felt halfhearted and rudderless.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I think part of Sasha's problem is that she isn't nerdy/geeky enough to have built up a knowledge base about all this stuff that nerds usually take for granted. Anyone who'd grown up on roleplaying games or old Harryhausen movies or books about mythology would never have considered giving a cyclops more than one eye and they would have been really familiar with the Greek pantheon.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I've been waiting for the kaiju challenge all season and I just had a peek at next episode's topic and they're doing faeries so it looks like the kaiju challenge will be in the next-to-last episode and we'll only get 4 kaiju creatures.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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George has really been struggling these last few episodes but I'm glad he'll be around for next week's challenge, it should be right up his alley.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Ariza posted:

I wonder if they have "real" judging that they don't air where they can actually say what needs to be said instead of the weird stilting nonsense that pours out of Glen's mouth and the need to praise two and castigate two.

Given that the contestants often seem really confused about what's expected of them (I recall some "Sitting around the house chatting about last episode's results" scenes in previous seasons where they seemed totally flummoxed by the judging results) I'd say not.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Daaaaaamn. George just couldn't bring it. :(
I really liked his concept but it was clearly a 2 or 3 person makeup rather than something one guy could pull off successfully.

Still, I get a feeling that he'll be on Cig's team next week.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Mr. Owl posted:

The contestants all forgot what kaiju monsters are and how they are shot visually. I don't think I have ever seen a monster walk around upright and straight legged. Ultraman and giant robots sure, but monsters no.

They were rarer but there were a bunch of classic kaiju with skinny-ish straight legs like Jamira, the various Alien Baltans, the Gargantuas, Alien Bado, Gandar, etc. as well as about half of the Super Sentai/Power Rangers monsters. I remember one particular kaiju who was a blobby cloud shape with incredibly thin ribbed legs but I'm damned if I can recall its name or which series it came from.

And some kaiju had really scrawny chicken legs. :classiclol:


Mr. Owl posted:

The director of the episode should go study up on the genre, why did they do the standard reveal shot straight on? Where are the low angle shots with under lighting?

Yeah that would have helped sell them a lot better.




Oh and just in case anyone really enjoys seeing badly made kaiju costume I can heartily recommend the G-Fest costume parade videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAQ4ii2nFUg
:feelsgood:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Obelix posted:

Also, a yeti crab isn't ludicrous it is a real creature which Cig chose (justifiably so I think) to ignore

There were a few shots in the show where he was looking at a photo of a yeti crab for inspiration for his monster. :ssh:

If you put the two side by side you can see all the similarities:



Exact same colouring, same fuzzy arms ending in little white claws with yellow knobbly bits, same feelers, same shell pattern on the head as on the real creature, etc..

If anything I think he stuck to the actual creature a little too closely and should have given his monster giant gently caress-off kaiju claws and massive plated/horned shoulder pads.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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smackfu posted:

Does Syfy have another reality show coming up after Faceoff finishes?
They sounded pretty keen on a second series of Jim Henson’s Creature Shop Challenge earlier in the year but there's been no news for months and months. Looks like Foxy & Co never made it past the pilot stage.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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YAY DINA! :dance:

I was rooting for Cig but his concept just didn't come through in the final pieces. Drew pulled out some great work but Dina totally nailed it.

And we only have to wait a few months until the next season starts in January!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Dr Zaius posted:

It was nice seeing previous winners for the teams rather than just another contestant from the season.

It's a good thing that went over well because we'll be seeing quite a bit more of that kind of thing very soon ...

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Factor Mystic posted:

How long until Face Off All Stars?

That starts on January 13 with Laura, Anthony and Rayce.

They won't actually be competing, they'll be closely mentoring the new competitors.



mind the walrus posted:

I have zero proof of this but between the team-building and the (usual) extra day to make the drat things, I'm pretty sure the producers go out of their way to ensure that nothing goes wrong with the costumes before they perform.

I've also noticed that the production staff run the latex molds overnight and remove the for the competitors now rather than having the competitors do all that themselves.

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