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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Cercadelmar posted:

I feel like you guys missed the point of this movie.

We don't really need any more Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerburgs, nor do we need another Jeff Bezos, or Larry Ellison anymore then we need another family of Waltons or Kennedy's. The "Great Man" fairy tale is honestly a pretty destructive outlook that contributes a lot to American Exceptionalism, and the Just World that makes people think poor people are just lazy.

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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Yea the fetishism of immigrants is weird too, these aren't "noble savages," they are just normal people, dealt a lovely handy, looking for an opportunity.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

joeburz posted:

Which is basically the same ancestry-wise of any person that is currently living in america outside of the small native population, but even some staunch progressives have a tough time holding back on "illegals" when I mention immigration, as if there is a tide of bloodsucking parasites and not people just wanting to slightly improve their hosed up situations.

Well you have to discriminate. Unless you are for unconditional open-borders, there has to be a process to legally immigrate and what do you do about people who have illegally bypassed that process? What do you do if they start a family in the new country after bypassing the process?

These are completely independent questions from the current broken process.

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