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Zeitgueist posted:Because they lucked out into living in a time where their interests ended up making them money and they grew up being told that they were so special because Mom/Dad/Teachers didn't have the time to learn a new tool and computers sound "smart", so they've been told they're above average all their lives, and now they believe it. The times where a technical skill picked up while loving around could provide a good living are at least as old as World War II. Richard Feynman started off repairing radios at home after all.
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Amused to Death posted:Basically. Also software, as well as engineering in general tend to be male dominated fields, and in both cases not fields where you have a lot of poor people rising up into. How can people say STEM is for rich white people with a straight face when it's got probably the largest concentration of foreigners from extremely poor countries of any white collar profession?
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Filippo Corridoni posted:dont worry, those foreigners are the rich white people of their nations "India rich" is still generally pretty poor compared to US standards.
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asdf32 posted:Hmm You are missing some finer points regarding depression, anxiety attacks and general sadbrains, but a good start. SedanChair posted:Also they are uneducated. It's always rich to see people imply that a liberal arts degree is necessary to be educated or "think critically". If engineers are uneducated, imagine how retarded people who didn't go to college or dropped out of high school are!
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Jul 23, 2014 06:35
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Jastiger posted:I wish I had learned programming so I could sit behind a desk and do the same amount of work I do now, but make more money. Sounds like a poo poo sociology degree if they didn't force you to do a bunch of statistical work which would inevitably teach you the basics of coding. Why do they let people graduate from sociology programs without solid calc/stats skills and knowledge of at least one statistical package?
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Jul 27, 2014 16:31
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enraged_camel posted:Is there a need for everyone to learn programming? In my opinion, no. Would knowing programming potentially improve everyone's life? I really do think so. Even ignoring computers and programming languages, breaking down tasks into components and logical decisions is a highly-compensated skill that has legitimate usefulness in practically any field you care to mention.
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Jul 30, 2014 03:37
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Cheekio posted:Ok, I buy that 200k is nothing if you work in finance or as an executive, but outside of those two categories are there any careers that average over 200k by the time your 30? Chemical Engineer, despite the shale boom, is pretty much on par with CS majors who work on websites, and they were the poster child for how to make money directly out of college. 200k household income is not nearly as rare as 200k single income. If you are decently educated and marry a similarly educated person and don't have kids, it seems like a fairly easy mark to hit by the time you are 40ish. Of course many people will get divorced or have kids or whatever, but it doesn't require crazy luck.
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To sell unions to programmers, you need to appeal to the right sensibilities of programmers. Unions would definitely benefit programmers: - They could consolidate their political power as a wealthy interest group in aggregate. A union with enough money could kick out the San Francisco politicians that hold tech back - Along with local politics, the funds raised could probably also influence national elections heavily - A union would allow them to carefully control the people allowed to work at top companies, which would allow them to preserve the kind of boy's club working environment they like and keep wages high for the existing tech workers - The union could go to bat for every programmer unfairly targeted by a public witchhunt for comments made off the clock There are a ton of benefits that even a libertarian could realize
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McAlister posted:Mainly busy and don't want to take the time to make it nice and sourced if all people are more interested in title-chat. Since you are the only interested person and want to self research I'll just do the summary. No poo poo that small businesses in "unsexy" sectors that deal in cash often generate huge cashflows. It really doesn't follow that an economic report that nobody here has heard of revolutionized the market for dry cleaners though. Also, specifically relevant to the 80's and 90's, isn't a dry cleaners one of the more popular money-laundering schemes?
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