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...somehow. http://www.republicreport.org/2014/leading-civil-rights-groups-just-sold-out-on-net-neutrality/ quote:The civil rights group letters argue that Title II reclassification of broadband services as a public utility — the only path forward for real net neutrality after a federal court ruling in January — would somehow “harm communities of color.” The groups wrote to the FCC to tell them that “we do not believe that the door to Title II should be opened.” Simply put, these groups, many of which claim to carry the mantle of Martin Luther King Jr., are saying that Comcast and Verizon should be able to create Internet slow lanes and fast lanes, and such a change would magically improve the lives of non-white Americans.
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uncurable mlady posted:pity reply pity quote
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:pity emptyquote
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i hope comcast wins and eliminates net neutrality, then sets up a tiered internet access program like with cable tv then i hope all the bribed groups find their donation websites behind hilarious paywalls where they are viewed as "ultra preimum" content and comcast charges $199 a month to see their sites
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i hope comcast literally shuts down the internet they did just bump me up to 50 mbit though so idk
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establish an "internet slow lane" for u r posts
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Jul 28, 2014 21:57
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perhaps all of these massive cross-country communications networks built with public funding should be treated as a public good and regulated unequivocally by a government administration, like railroads or the interstates, instead of being de facto ceded to the cable company because free enterprise no gubmit in my pockets nanny state are taxes profits small business minimum wage free market!
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Sagebrush posted:free enterprise no gubmit in my pockets nanny state are taxes profits small business minimum wage free market! don't post my dad
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Sagebrush posted:perhaps all of these massive cross-country communications networks built with public funding should be treated as a public good and regulated unequivocally by a government administration, like railroads or the interstates, instead of being de facto ceded to the cable company because free enterprise no gubmit in my pockets nanny state are taxes profits small business minimum wage free market! lol
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Jul 28, 2014 22:23
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making the internet a public utility would be a fantastic way to destroy it
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Jul 28, 2014 22:24
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hey FCC wheres my darkie-net
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Shaggar posted:making the internet a public utility would be a fantastic way to destroy it ISPs shouldn't be replaced by the government, but the physical infrastructure should be managed and controlled by the FCC the same way the radio spectrums are handled. everyone gets equal access to the network. if one of the providers is abusing their license, it would be revoked and assigned to someone else. yes i know it's different because you have a physical medium to deal with, i dunno, cancel one of the new aircraft carriers and have enough money to keep the fiber optics working for another two decades. whatever.
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Jul 28, 2014 22:48
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that's already how it works but it doesn't help
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no it's more like that's how it was supposed to work, but it doesn't.  oh well.
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no, I can literally buy cable internet service from 3 different companies but it ends up being identical service at identical prices.
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Sagebrush posted:perhaps all of these massive cross-country communications networks built with public funding should be treated as a public good and regulated unequivocally by a government administration, like railroads or the interstates, instead of being de facto ceded to the cable company because free enterprise no gubmit in my pockets nanny state are taxes profits small business minimum wage free market! wish ur posts were generated by public funding then we could underinvest
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Jul 28, 2014 23:07
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ahahaa no then they'd become even longer and shittier and more obtuse and you'd never be rid of them
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Jul 28, 2014 23:15
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and your childrens childrens children will still be paying for them
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the children are rhetorical, obviously.
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What would these minorities browser history look like
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Shaggar posted:no, I can literally buy cable internet service from 3 different companies but it ends up being identical service at identical prices. p. much this. the local loop here is owned by a company that doesnt sell services (openreach) and has to sell access at the same prices to everyone. there's not a huge amount of service or price differentiation other than a couple of isps who think they are special snowflakes worth paying more for. it didn't kickstart a fibre in the ground landrush because that poo poo is expensive and nobody wants to spend the money unless they can have exclusive access to the network.
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Thanks Ants posted:p. much this. the local loop here is owned by a company that doesnt sell services (openreach) and has to sell access at the same prices to everyone. there's not a huge amount of service or price differentiation other than a couple of isps who think they are special snowflakes worth paying more for. it didn't kickstart a fibre in the ground landrush because that poo poo is expensive and nobody wants to spend the money unless they can have exclusive access to the network. its almost like there are costs or something? idk.
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there was nothing wrong with att being a monopoly
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this dude should try and use a TV these days 
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pram posted:there was nothing wrong with att being a monopoly the att breakup lead to a fragmentation of technology that probably set the telcom industry back 10 years
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Shaggar posted:the att breakup lead to a fragmentation of technology that probably set the telcom industry back 10 years this is some top tier shaggaring folks
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i agree completely. its much easier to fund something like bell labs when yr shareholders arent wanting to strip mine any value from the company
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shaggar is literally The Man
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you could only get really lovely DSL from Verizon (which then sold its service in our area to Frontier) or Comcast cable here then a fiber company showed up and made a deal with our county to get assistance in doing the fiber runs then comcast whinged about it and threatened some sort of vague legal action, which our councilmen and women ignored and promptly signed onto the deal with the fiber company apparently everyone in the expanding area the fiber company supports is dropping comcast to the point where they're trying to keep customers by cutting their bills in half; which isn't working since the fiber company provides pretty much all of the same tv channels and 2-3 times faster network speeds even in base packages which are actually reliable during peak hours short version gently caress comcast e: also AT&T has some sort of deal in our county/state where we (the university) cannot have a free open wifi service because it competes with them so we have to restrict ours to faculty/staff/students Fabricated fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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like its still all hosed up because even though modern equipment can emulate all kinds of protocols and stuff in software, 90% of the gear at the Telco you connect it to is 40 years old and has changed hands 5 times so no one knows what it really does or even where it is and it will be configured wrong 5 times before they get it right.
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if the FCC was a technical standards organization instead of a "gently caress everything up in weird new ways each week"/censorship org it would be pretty good.
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Shaggar posted:like its still all hosed up because even though modern equipment can emulate all kinds of protocols and stuff in software, 90% of the gear at the Telco you connect it to is 40 years old and has changed hands 5 times so no one knows what it really does or even where it is and it will be configured wrong 5 times before they get it right. i agree isps are all poo poo fucks
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Shaggar posted:no, I can literally buy cable internet service from 3 different companies but it ends up being identical service at identical prices. lol what y'all barely have electricity out there
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maniacdevnull posted:i agree isps are all poo poo fucks no this is the phone companies that have been public utilities for decades
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how does ATT still get away with calling Uverse a fiber service
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:how does ATT still get away with calling Uverse a fiber service they use fiberglass in the co so that counts right? that counts, were telling everyone that that counts
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:how does ATT still get away with calling Uverse a fiber service if u eat fiber u get exactly what uverse is
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Shaggar posted:no, I can literally buy cable internet service from 3 different companies but it ends up being identical service at identical prices. where the gently caress do you live that you have a choice beyond a landline phone company still desperately trying to convince people that DSL is a viable broadband option so they keep paying for a landline, and a single cable broadband ISP? edit: oh, right, Maine
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