quakster posted:Red Dwarf is a straight-up comedy. Not much to review. Oh, I don't know. It had some neat sci-fi concepts, and dealt with some pretty existential questions, if at least only obliquely - especially in the earlier series. It definitely wasn't brainless laffs.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2014 10:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 18:51 |
Dabir posted:For instance: This still makes me laugh out loud, every single time. 'Well, I'd prefer chicken' EDIT - well, now I may well end up watching Red Dwarf clips all morning. Oops Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2014 11:54 |
AndwhatIseeisme posted:Couldn't someone behind the scenes have been working on an actual spaceship while this whole thing was going on. You know, let a few scientists be aware of it and have them tasked with the hope of one day making the space whale torture not the only option? Does that sound like typical human behaviour to you? What would actually happen is they'd be all 'nah, gently caress it, this is easier, why bother' until the space whale started to get old and sick and weak, then they'd panic and start talking about maybe getting a conference together about building a spaceship, but it'd already be too late and the UK would fall into the nearest sun or something.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2015 16:38 |
HopperUK posted:I hated this episode, just hated it. I found the patriotic overtones and the lionizing of Churchill to be so embarrassing they made me cringe. Having said that I liked Spitfires in space. Gravity wells whatever. Wheeee! Pew pew pew! Surely they were as much a part of that bullshit as everything else. They certainly made me bite my fist in vicarious embarrassment. Actually, personal embarrassment as well, because I was watching it. Luckily no-one else was in the room at the time.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 01:06 |
Bicyclops posted:I do sort of wish that the sonic screwdriver worked even less of the time and that the running gag was the Doctor finding himself confronted with a problem, saying "I'll just use my trusty sonic screwdriver!" and then either prove that it's largely ineffectual or make the situation even worse by screwing up the settings. There was a good post many Who threads ago where someone argued that the Doctor suspects he's in a fictional narrative, and has (as of the revival series) figured out that if he just points the sonic screwdriver at whatever problem he's currently up against, the writer, in the interests of brevity and/or laziness, will write him out of the situation. It's just a whizzy light up stick, but he's figured out if he just swishes it around for long enough then a solution will magically present itself.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 17:26 |
DoctorWhat posted:also is no one going to acknowledge "the rassilon razzle-dazzle-on"? I worked hard on that one. Well done, Doctor What. Also, Vampires of Venice is flipping great and badly underrated, Rory is awesome, and Matt Smith's confrontation scene is A+. 'Think of the children...'
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2015 20:29 |
Senor Tron posted:This is probably not the place to bring up all the Colin jokes that Davison was making at the Symphonic the other night hey? Do tell...
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2015 20:51 |
MrL_JaKiri posted:Coming at you for not including the enormous-in-scope space opera Legend of Galactic Heroes This is the only actually, all the way through and not just sometimes good anime there is. I have spoken. EDIT - VVVV It is only Sometimes Good. Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Feb 6, 2015 |
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 11:06 |
Lipset and Rock On posted:How has this been posted but not the video of actual Sylvester McCoy doing the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9_OkgWaRIs Here's the version edited to fit the scene. I do enjoy Sly's delivery, and it's a very Seventh Doctor-y speech, little dude could be quite the blusterer from time to time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9Z5djon7w
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 20:55 |
Thomas Hardy and George Eliot are both f'in ace. And Twain and Melville, if we're talking the other side of the pond as well. Can take or leave most 19th century literature though.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 22:10 |
Jerusalem posted:This story and the discussion it generated at the time it aired remains one of my favorite memories of season 6, I love stories where - regardless of how fantastic the scenario is - you can put yourself into the characters' shoes and ponder how you would react in the same situation. It makes for a great thought experiment, and coupled with the amazing visuals it remains a highlight of the season for me. Yeah, the main Who thread was great after this, a lot of engaging and intelligent discussion. Admittedly, mostly provoked by the one psycho who vowed that he would kill his other self on sight. The two-parter's main conceit is a hoary old sci-fi/speculative fiction/SF/whatever one, it's true, but I wish Who would go to that well more often.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 11:10 |
It begins (again)!
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 17:58 |
Sentinel Red posted:Sorry, couldn't resist, goop discussion must always have a Sociopath King! Fungah! posted:wasn't his thing that he had a copyright on himself and so he was morally justified straight-up killing his ganger? it's been a while, i don't remember exactly Little bit of column A, little bit of column B (as far as I recall - I don't have archives). But all the obvious rejoinders to that attitude fell on deaf ears - he genuinely seemed confused about people being a bit iffy about flat out murdering gangers.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 18:16 |
'A bunch of programmable matter' is literally every human being to ever exist. To be fair, though, I'm glad there's only one MisterBibs.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 00:01 |
At the heart of the whole debate is the fact that continuity of consciousness is a total crock of poo poo. If someone brought back me from yesterday somehow, I'd have no claim on him whatsoever. He'd be a different person, even if very subtly, and as deserving of independent existence as 'I' am.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 19:56 |
A jargogle posted:And he'd have an equally valid claim on those things. It'd be awkward for sure to sort out, but I think a reasonable person could manage to. And since I know today me feels the same way as yesterday me about the whole situation, I'd like to think we would be able to work something out. This is also, incidentally, why MisterBibs would presumably thunderdome the gently caress out of himself.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 23:15 |
Jerusalem posted:As far as I see it, the very moment the double is created, it's experiencing things from a different perspective to me and thus automatically becomes an entirely different person. Sure we have 100% identical memories up to that point, and the difference in perspective may literally be that we're standing on different sides of the room... but it is still a different perspective to the one I am experiencing, and thus unique to that entity. How we would deal with the ramifications of life going forward I don't know (both of us would probably want to leave the other to do all the work so "we" could travel the world ) but there would be no doubt in my mind that we were NOT the same person anymore. I guess the question is 'at what point does the perspective change, no matter how tiny, change what it is to be you'? IMO, I agree with you that the tiniest change would make a difference, but as long as the experience of continuity of consciousness exists (which it would for both branches) then neither gets a claim to originality. I know you're not arguing against me, J-Ru. I guess I'm just explicating the conundrum. This all kind of leads on to one of my favourite themes in Doctor Who, which is regeneration. If every single cell changes in the Doctor's body, making his literal, day-to-day consciousness entirely different, while retaining memories of his former selves, is he still the same person? Or does he just retain memories of another person's experiences, as we do when we read particularly good novels? Or, most interestingly, does it even really matter? Yeah, I really dig this two-parter.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 00:33 |
Prison Warden posted:You take a broom, you replace the handle, and then later you replace the brush, and you do that over and over again. Is it still the same broom? Answer? No, of course it isn't. But you can still sweep the floor. Right on. As another fantastic writer wrote, 'you are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful about what you pretend to be'. There is nothing at the centre of anyone - it's what you do that defines you. Which is why a ganger is as valid as a person.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 01:07 |
The true mind-gently caress is that there is probably no such thing as a 'self', in the ontological sense - which then leads to the realisation that every tiny momentary pattern of complexity equaling sentience is as worthy of respect as any other, whether it was immediately preceded by cellular division or ganger-goopery. And that is what Doctor Who is all about.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 01:20 |
marktheando posted:I think that if you don't want to have to to deal with your characters going through the loss and grief of losing their baby, then you probably shouldn't write a story where your characters have their baby taken away. What Moffat did really sells out the characters at the expense of the plot, and the plot isn't interesting enough to justify it. Precisely. The Melody=River plotline is the worst part of Moffat's clever-clever bullshittery (to date), and it's also where the old 'RTD sacrifices plot for emotional beats and Moffat sacrifices emotional beats for plot' cliche rings most true. It's just cheap and cynical and poorly done. It also contracts the Doctor Who universe even more than usual. There could've been so many other, more interesting origins for River. EDIT - also, 'time head baby' is irritatingly hand-wavy. I'm far from a stickler for Doctor Who consistency or whatever, but 'conceived in TARDIS, therefore part Time Lord' is really weak. Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 10:18 |
Yes, which is why his (and my) argument is that Moffat shouldn't have used a storyline in which the main characters lose their baby in the first place.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 15:11 |
EDIT - I just realised which thread this is in, my apologies. VVVVVV Might be worth editing out. It's not a big thing, but still Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 15:28 on May 2, 2015 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2015 12:53 |
Grouchio posted:Victorian bullshit like this makes me wonder if we'll be lucky enough to try an American doctor within the next decade or so... No thanks.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 10:44 |
Bobulus posted:Is it poetic irony or just stupid that Seven, the Doctor that talks and schemes his way out of everything, dies as a result of random gunfire? I thought it was fitting, but then again I also thought that Kirk dying by bridge was also good.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 23:31 |
Little_wh0re posted:How do you have one favorite smith moment? Also the park bench scene in The Beast Below, his confrontation in the throne room in the vampires episode, pretty much anything he did in The Lodger, etc, etc. I miss Matt Smith terribly.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2015 10:58 |
Toxxupation posted:wait I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but yes, Rick and Morty was directly inspired by Doctor Who. As in, they even modelled the theme tune on Doctor Who's.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 01:54 |
Not a Twat posted:I liked the bizarre slapstick in this episode Strax just utterly smashing Clara with the newspaper came completely out of nowhere, and made me burst out laughing. Strax is always good value, is what I'm saying
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2015 12:03 |
Toxxupation posted:In fact, let's talk about the music of DW I've always considered this Ten's theme, in that it tended to get used more often in his earlier seasons, and also reprises when he turns up in Day of the Doctor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844_IkhcP-g The one you posted is just Nine's but all bombastic and not as good I like when it turns up occasionally, though. It's my favourite Doctor theme.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 20:32 |
Bown posted:I meant was the Dalek named that as a reference to RTD? I've heard him referred to as Rusty for years now. I don't think I've ever seen Russell T. Davies referred to as Rusty outside of these threads. Russell "The T." Davies, however...
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 09:54 |
Payndz posted:As a professional writer, the whole "death of the author" thing mystifies me. Like anyone else, an author is shaped by their upbringing, their environment, the society around them - and without them the work being discussed wouldn't even exist, so knowing something about the person who created it (and why they created it) would surely help in analysing it. But "none of that counts, only my interpretation matters" seems to be the way lit-crit works at the moment. Death of the Author was never about utterly ignoring context forever and for good, it was an attempt to redress a balance that had been leaning too far towards the direction of trying to find clues to an author's life in their work. It's not an either/or question, and it hasn't been in literary criticism for years now. Both methods - approaching a work as a standalone text and finding out what you see in it, and approaching a text taking it as an expression of contextual influences - are perfectly legitimate.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 13:46 |
Espilae posted:I think this episode is the introduction and first appearance of the terrible loving sparkly shirt and so it should be judged on those merits alone It's actually a jumper full of holes, but you're right, it's appalling
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2015 12:01 |
thrawn527 posted:Yes, this, thank you. This is why I hate this episode. Fine if you want to gently caress off and let the people of this time make their own decision (never mind Clara is just going to ignore it anyway), but take the child you brought here with you and take her home, where she'll be safe. What the gently caress is wrong with you, Doctor. What's wrong with the 12th Doctor is that he's a cruel, self-centred arsehole who only gives a gently caress about anything or anyone because he's more or less forced to. He doesn't relate to other people, isn't interested in trying, and seems to do the whole adventuring/saving people gig because he feels some sort of irritating (but fading) obligation to do so rather than because he wants to. Also, he wears horrible polka dot shirts, which is frankly even worse. Soothing Vapors posted:yeah these are all serious scientific problems in a show about a time traveling space faring police box It's a question of verisimilitude. The aspect you mentioned is a central part of the whole series. You accept it as part of the overall premise. The conceit is pseudo-scientifically plausible, in the most loose sense. The moon being an egg that lays an egg even bigger than itself is egregious because it doesn't correlate with people's, basic everyday, perceptual experience. It's exactly like the example of Sundays only being 12 hours long thing mentioned earlier. It's unexplained, it clashes with the way we know things usually work, and aside from all that, it's a cheap cop out and reset button.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 16:26 |
Rat Flavoured Rats posted:KTM is an absolutely fantastic episode, and I genuinely can't get my head around the 'scientifically implausible' criticisms. That is the physics-related straw that break's the back of a show about time travel? Yes, because it's not about the minutiae of how black holes work or whether time travel is plausible or various other esoteric science fiction-y, physics-y stuff. It's 'loving eggs, how do they work?' DoctorWhat posted:And in what goddamn universe is NOT stuffing a script with arbitrary technobabble "laziness"? To be honest, I'd rather they just did another episode entirely, the whole thing was ill-conceived and badly constructed. The dilemma and the Doctor/Clara stand off could have been based around something interesting, instead of the moon being a giant loving egg that doesn't make even superficial sense.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 17:03 |
It's worth mentioning that abortion isn't nearly as big an issue in the UK as it is in America. At all. Frankly it's very unlikely that any kind of abortion subtext was intentional. Not that that means you can't read it as such, of course.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 18:33 |
Regy Rusty posted:So is this what the main doctor who thread is like all the time gently caress no, thank god. DoctorWhat, you're coming across as a condescending bellend. Stop it.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2015 18:53 |
Burkion posted:What I did I did without choice, in the name of peace and sanity. But not in the name of the Toxxtor.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2015 16:27 |
Grouchio posted:I am suddenly reminded that the Doctor loafed around this train job for almost 1000 years. To be fair, he was stuck on a lovely backwater planet for 900 of them.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 10:13 |
Paul.Power posted:Or I could have asked my friends in Bristol if they really did have weird time warp trains running around the place. We do not. Jamie Mathieson single-handedly rescued this series for me. Flatline is exactly what I want Doctor Who to be like all the time - Actual Sci-Fi Concepts, Written Well.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 21:31 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 18:51 |
Lottery of Babylon posted:Actually, In the Forest of the Night is really good. The science side of the psych meds or defoliatiants or instant forest may not make sense, but it's not supposed to be realistic. Do you get angry at this show because time travel isn't real? Do you get angry at Bambi because deer can't talk? None of that is important. Look, as a mature critic and watsonian reader, I
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 08:54 |