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Amppelix posted:This episode was where I stopped watching Doctor Who for like, a year. Not after the second part; specifically in the middle. So I guess it really was that bad. I'm haunted by the thought that Occ might choose this course of action.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2015 05:03 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 07:56 |
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sic transit rory ex mundi
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2015 03:13 |
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Yeah, I think once he pulled his arm out it started getting bigger and brighter. I can't say for sure though because even though I watched the last 10 minutes of the episode just a couple of hours ago it's so drat unmemorable by virtue of being a part of that episode that I've mostly forgotten it.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2015 05:58 |
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I confess I don't have any such personal reasons for not liking this episode so much, I was just put out that the fun sci-fi adventure went on vacation for a week and was replaced by some overwrought Van Gogh fan fiction. I think I predicted an A because I remember everyone else who saw it loving it, and figured it just left me cold because instead of a heart I have a shard of obsidian.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 05:55 |
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Pwnstar posted:If you think the Doctor running around trying to fight a monster he can't see and attacking a fence isn't a fun sci-fi adventure then I'm sorry about your life. I'd forgotten most of the episode except for the big speech about how Van Gogh was the best person who ever lived, so being reminded that it had some actual really good bits like that was a nice time.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 06:20 |
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They'd hear his introduction of "Hello, I am Vincent Van Gogh" and immediately misdiagnose him.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 06:58 |
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Timestamp the Matt Smith junk, this needs verification.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2015 07:10 |
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Craptacular! posted:I'm surprised at the reaction to this episode, the majority of classic fans I know simply despise it for various reasons, most if which have to do with all these moments that could truly be called OOC for the Doctor as an overall meta-character. Most of all I think it's because they made the episode so sitcom-like. It's like you expect a laugh track at times, and Doctor Who shouldn't be a sitcom. Ever.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 17:45 |
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It's funny to remember how crazy a bunch of people went trying to find puzzle pieces in an actually quite straightforward and simple series. *giant crack with white light spilling out of it appears behind Craig's fridge and Amy holds up her engagement ring as creepy music plays* Viewer: wait a minute that painting... Right at the start of The Eleventh Hour when Matt Smith is hanging out the Tardis there's a frown on his face for a split second and I saw some Youtube video where that's a sign he saw something at that moment that he never told anyone about afterwards and was a part of some Moffat masterplan.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 21:29 |
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Nick Cave and the Bad Wolf
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 21:44 |
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The last 10 minutes of this episode are basically the highlight of the whole series for me. There's a really wonderful sense of a trap closing as the box opens, all the world's evils are unleashed, and the box is sealed shut again with hope still inside. Gotcha!
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 04:04 |
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Speaking of predestination loops, the cracks are caused by the Tardis exploding, which happened because the Doctor wasn't there to stop it, because he just got imprisoned by bad guys who used Amy to get to him. So really the ultimate cause of the cracks is the Doctor crash landing in Amy's back garden and deciding to investigate the cracks. I doubt Moffat was going for that as it's more tenuous than the classic "man is given a watch by his future self which he then gives to his past self" but he just can't help himself.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 04:46 |
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I also really love that line from River: "I hate good wizards in fairy tales, they always turn out to be him." The first time you watch it's a cute joke, the second time it's foreshadowing
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 04:55 |
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Very carefully!
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 05:49 |
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El Pato posted:The blue fat guy says he got his teleporter by cutting it off of the hand of a handsome time traveler...is, is Jack alright?
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 16:09 |
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adhuin posted:We as watchers might know there are others, but the Daleks/Cybermen/etc do not have that information. The phrase "the Doctor in the Tardis" has come up a couple of times this series (prisoner zero and the Angels say it, I'm sure it cropped up somewhere else too) presumably to set up the idea that the Doctor and the Tardis are inextricably linked in many people's minds.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 17:03 |
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The fez meme got played out but I still think it was worth it for "I can buy a fez"
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 04:11 |
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Even after rewatching this episode a couple of times I have a really hard time finding fault with it. I guess the bit after the "rewind" goes on a bit, but then it has to be a bit long to really give you that unnerving feeling of the Doctor not being there. I guess how did River end up in 2010 to drop off that book without her vortex manipulator, but then she knows Amy from future/past adventures so maybe she'd make an extra effort to turn up to the wedding anyway, or something who knows. I guess the reveal that Amy's parents were swallowed by the cracks is just told in exposition, but on the other hand I love that final conversation between Amy and the Doctor, and the way it's not a dramatic reveal but a sad thing that happened and he comforts her. I guess we don't really feel the impact of Rory's 2000 years of solitude, he seems to be exactly the same guy afterwards, but then that's just because Rory owns. This is just such a god drat good episode and I love it so much.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 07:03 |
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howe_sam posted:Amy seems pretty defiantly Scottish. She drinks whisky. She said "good for them" when she found out they had their own ship in The Beast Below, so probably. I think I'll vote with random grades as well, because even years later I still don't know if I hated series 6 or not. Might as well stick with the established "I don't know what to make of this" precedent
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 23:01 |
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I was also cool on this episode when I first watched it. In my case I was trying to keep up with all the time stuff going on and wasn't concentrating on the character stuff so much as a result. It's kind of interesting to me that while RTD's finales all revolved around a big universe ending threat, Moffat has the universe end and then cleans up the mess. I like the feeling of the episode taking place in the quiet time after the worst has happened. Maybe that's a decent message to send the kiddies watching as well- bad things happen and they can't always be prevented but maybe they can be fixed. By, uh, turning back time.
2house2fly fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Feb 14, 2015 |
# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 04:24 |
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"Screwdriver" has been an obvious simplification of the type of device it is for a long time. Although the torch lighting does conflict with what's been pretty consistently one of its limitations- it "doesn't do wood". Let's say that torch was an advanced cyber torch somehow.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 15:33 |
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CobiWann posted:I must be the only person in existence who HATED the scene with River and the Dalek. it's the last one in existence and incredibly weak, I can totally imagine it asking to be spared under those circumstances. Also it looking up River Song and being absolutely terrified by what it finds isn't necessarily meant to make you like her more.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 17:03 |
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Craptacular! posted:The thing to understand about River is, in another Moffat loop she only knows everything because the Doctor wrote a diary of everything they did together at some point, from his perspective. She is basically calling the Doctor from various time periods, hoping to ping him from whenever. She doesn't know what he was doing last or what he has done already when he answers the call, she once didn't even get the Doctor generation she expected.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 18:16 |
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Bicyclops posted:I don't car for River after the Angels episode. There's just too much telling us that she's awesome (for some reason, Daleks are afraid of her, she can get out of a high security prison whenever she wants magically, yadda yadda). I liked her better when she was a kickass archaeologist and not just 'the most awesome person ever." I don't hate her and Alex Kingston is great, but she's just over-written. The Dalek learns that River is a killer and asks for mercy, and her response is to make it beg and then kill it anyway. That's not the sort of thing you have a character do to show how cool they are.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 23:07 |
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Burkion posted:See, the problem with this? Burkion posted:With River it's just an echo without the meaning. "She's so badass she can make a Dalek beg for mercy!" It's not a flaw, it's a feature.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 00:03 |
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Father Octavian: Don't trust her. She killed a man. A good man. A hero to many. Doctor Who Viewer: Ugh, River is such a Mary Sue even the other characters keep praising her!
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 00:06 |
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EDIT: I'm sorry for having a meltdown about the Dalek scene in your thread, Occupation!
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 00:10 |
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Obviously you don't have to like the scene, but whether you like the scene or not it's a sinister foreshadowing scene and not a demonstration of awesomeness.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 00:27 |
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Transcript of the scene btw: Dalek: Records indicate you will show mercy. You are an associate of the Doctor's. River: I'm River Song. Check your records again. [brief pause while the Dalek accesses its records and shits what might be, since it's currently made out of stone, a literal brick] Dalek: Mercy. River: Say it again. Dalek: Mercy! River: One more time. Dalek: MERCYYYYY!
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 01:01 |
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Jack Harkness is a benign swashbuckling space adventurer and taunting and murdering a powerless opponent in cold blood would be a disservice to his character
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 22:09 |
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God bless us, every one.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 00:54 |
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Wait are you reviewing Monster Hunter or Charles Dickens?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 23:04 |
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I think this is an absolutely magical and wonderful episode and the fact that it didn't get an A is bordering on a war crime. That being said, I predicted a B so fair enough.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2015 14:09 |
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Rory: "It's just a bit of fun"
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2015 23:50 |
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quote:How Abigail feels about the fact that she’s been a slave for years, and is now about to die, fails to be a blip on anyone’s radar.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2015 00:27 |
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She's playing monhun as well, and when you think about it isn't a child the ultimate monster?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 04:25 |
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I don't mind a long review at all, and a detailed summary can highlight things I didn't notice when I watched, but it's not strictly necessary. The majority of people reading the reviews have already watched the show after all, so they wouldn't need a lot of detail to catch up.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 21:26 |
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If nothing else playing Monster Hunter will get you in the mood for the series 6 finale, in which the Doctor beats Dire Miralis with an Ananta Boneblade
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 21:37 |
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Toxxupation posted:Random Thoughts: EDIT: though to his credit Moffat played it up offscreen as well, he kept responding to people on twitter who asked him about it with "nope, he's definitely dead" etc. 2house2fly fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 17, 2015 00:32 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 07:56 |
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Jonathan Creek is also great because while in Doctor Who the answer to how something is done is "space techno-magic" in Jonathan Creek the solution to the mystery is something technically practical but completely insane.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2015 03:43 |