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I have just been horribly unimpressed with Bryan on the mic since he dropped the crazy gimmick and I'm glad he finally left television. I appreciate that they actually tried to keep him on TV for a while to keep him hot, but listening to him was brutal. Brie I see nothing whatsoever in.
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Daniel Bryan posted:She's one of the stars of Total Divas, she's Daniel Bryan's wife, and has a built-in storyline that's been building for two months. I'm not saying she's the best one for the role, but it just happened to work out. I think it's both a way to keep Daniel Bryan in our minds, and a way to keep Stephanie McMahon in an important storyline. I pretty much see it as an extension of HHH vs. Bryan since Bryan is out of action for who knows how much longer. That said, was that the first time in years that we had women-only in the main event segment (going back to say, the Trish-Lita main event).
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Vertical Lime posted:That said, was that the first time in years that we had women-only in the main event segment (going back to say, the Trish-Lita main event). Highlighted by Lita's scary accordion impression. I miss good women's wrestling. If they would bring back Awesome Kong and have her destroy the entire Divas division, that would be swell.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:09
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I'm BEGINNING to suspect they don't know what the hell they're doing with Cesaro It's just all so confusing. I love Cesaro, please let me love him WWE. Send him out in a shirt each week that explicitly states his face/heel alignment, because I can't make any sense of this guy since Wrestlemania. "This week I am no longer affiliated with Paul Heyman, but am [continued on back] still a heel and consider him a close personal friend," followed by next week's "I call myself the king of swing yet never use this maneuver because I am in fact, still technically a heel and you should boo me even though I don't do anything particularly evil and have no storyline."
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Jul 29, 2014 18:09
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I don't get why people are all over this Cena promo. It seemed like a generic "SERIOUS CENA" promo, where he raises his voice, drops into his accent, talks about "PASSION," calls a dude Jack, and maybe uses some PG-13 swears. It's all so forced and I've seen it all before.
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Tato posted:It's just all so confusing. I love Cesaro, please let me love him WWE. Send him out in a shirt each week that explicitly states his face/heel alignment, because I can't make any sense of this guy since Wrestlemania. "This week I am no longer affiliated with Paul Heyman, but am [continued on back] still a heel and consider him a close personal friend," followed by next week's "I call myself the king of swing yet never use this maneuver because I am in fact, still technically a heel and you should boo me even though I don't do anything particularly evil and have no storyline." I'm sorry but it's obvious Cesaro's a heel. He's always been except for maybe about 20 minutes or so at Wrestlemania. He's still a heel despite no longer being a Heyman guy because he was a smug prick and offered to help the Authority. He's still Paul's friend because they are heels and heels are friends. The "King Of Swing" thing is kind of dumb but that was always Heyman that called him that. Also he CAN do the swing, he just generally chooses not to because he's a dick. Heeling! It's lame, aimless heeling, but it's heeling. I won't dispute for a second that he has no clear storyline or direction, but how is his alignment at all confusing?
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Jul 29, 2014 18:18
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I'll admit, the only real reason I liked Cena/Brock #1 was because Brock beat him up until he cried.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:19
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You know Cesaro is a heel because only heels are allowed to have friends in the WWE.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:21
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I wonder if Dave was more harsh on Cena/Cesaro because the G1 is on and if you're watching every show, you're being inundated with great wrestling, where even the mediocre matches are pretty fun. I sort of felt like I would have appreciated it more if all I'd been watching lately was WWE. Cena's audible spot calling has been getting worse, though.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:27
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I won't dispute for a second that he has no clear storyline or direction, but how is his alignment at all confusing? His alignment isn't necessarily confusing, but WWE keeps tiptoeing up to the edge of turning him face and then running away. It's fine if they're doing it in an interesting way, but they're not so it just kills his momentum.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:31
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Cena's never really arched his back for his hurricarana, so it has always looked wrong. That was a cool match though. The Hulu version definitely cut stuff out (the post-match replay footage gave this away) so I'm wondering if that's why it didn't seem especially botchy to me. I wouldn't think the 90-minute Raw is specifically edited for botches, but I know they trim matches sometimes.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:33
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Cena calling the swing spot was the first time I've actually noticed spot calling while watching (and not just while watching Botchamania) It was really bad.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:36
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I have just been horribly unimpressed with Bryan on the mic since he dropped the crazy gimmick and I'm glad he finally left television. I appreciate that they actually tried to keep him on TV for a while to keep him hot, but listening to him was brutal. Brie I see nothing whatsoever in. This, but unironically.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:44
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Shima Honnou posted:This, but unironically. I am not even being ironic!  The payoff to having Bryan lately is his workrate, and the heels he deals with are the most interesting thing about him.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:48
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All I know is that calling John Cena a billboard or saying his shoes are from K-Mart is grounds for an rear end kicking in Cena's books.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:56
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Spikeguy posted:I hope people don't sour on that Cena match just because Meltzer did. It was really good and made both guys look strong. And it started because Cesaro dissed Cena's ring gear! That was the best drat part too, 'cause Cesaro shot off his mouth with "You're not a wrestler, you're a walking billboard!" and Cena instantly shifted into "I am so over this poo poo" mode, not because "I'm not a walking billboard!" but because "I'm a drat GOOD wrestler" and went after him.
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Jul 29, 2014 18:56
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guys i'm getting tired of roman reigns
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Jul 29, 2014 18:57
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I missed RAW.. was there no follow-up to Xavier Woods, Kofi, and Big E?
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Jul 29, 2014 18:58
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Bhester posted:I missed RAW.. was there no follow-up to Xavier Woods, Kofi, and Big E? oh man I didn't even realize this
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Jul 29, 2014 19:00
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Bhester posted:I missed RAW.. was there no follow-up to Xavier Woods, Kofi, and Big E? They watched a tag team match on the monitor and then came out to watch it some more (apparently, I missed all of it) Big E loves him some screen-watching.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:02
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I hope they just stand ringside for the next eight weeks.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:02
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Bhester posted:I missed RAW.. was there no follow-up to Xavier Woods, Kofi, and Big E? The follow up is the Big E just wanted to spread the joys of standing around staring at a match really inventively.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:16
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Bhester posted:I missed RAW.. was there no follow-up to Xavier Woods, Kofi, and Big E? They'll be reintroduced next week as The Afterthoughts.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:16
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Dimebags Brain posted:I don't get why people are all over this Cena promo. It seemed like a generic "SERIOUS CENA" promo, where he raises his voice, drops into his accent, talks about "PASSION," calls a dude Jack, and maybe uses some PG-13 swears. It's all so forced and I've seen it all before. Yeah I felt like the minority on this but I wasn't too moved either. It wasn't bad, it was just a Cena promo.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:36
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TheEggsBenedict posted:guys i'm getting tired of roman reigns This + Adam Rose
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DingoSlasher posted:All I know is that calling John Cena a billboard or saying his shoes are from K-Mart is grounds for an rear end kicking in Cena's books. His shoes are literally from Kmart. He has a whole line of clothes there.
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Jul 29, 2014 19:39
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Is their any gifs of Cena's hurricaranna or any other sloppy moves?
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TheEggsBenedict posted:guys i'm getting tired of roman reigns I want to enjoy him, but I'm getting sick of his matches looking like the way I play wrestling video games. Basically, he just waits around until he can hit his power move (the superman punch), and he does it over and over. Even in a night where he was basically just getting his rear end kicked, he threw two superman punches. Acrolos fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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fart blood posted:I just hope Becky Lynch isn't cut. I like Becky Lynch. She's posed for a big push and is on a lot of NXT material. I think she will be ok. Unless there's massive blood letting. The cuts seem to be upper management focused.
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triplexpac posted:I think Brie is getting pretty decent on the mic, and the crowd reacts to her segments with Stephanie at least so that's something brie is totally serviceable on the mic, she's come a long way since "ha, good one nikki  "
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Jul 29, 2014 19:48
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Bring back the Hot Topic pants Roman. Don't let the people hurt your feelings.
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Cardboard Box posted:brie is totally serviceable on the mic, she's come a long way since "ha, good one nikki On the other hand, "AAAAAA it's TheDemonKane AAAAAA"
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Scott Steiner is the surprising voice of reason:Big Poppa Pump posted:The ‘PG era’ blows. The best time in wrestling was with the nWo and the Monday Night War between WCW and WWE. You had competition. Now there is no competition. I feel bad for the guys and the wrestlers coming up now. They are slotted into a character that sometimes they can’t even do. Most of the time it’s bullshit, and it sucks. I wouldn’t want to do it. You have a stupid character to do, but if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job … And. quote:All the social media and other things, a lot of it is bullshit. It doesn’t mean you’re going to draw or people are going to see you. You look at Charlie Sheen and then how many Twitter followers he had there and on Facebook. Then he tried to capitalize on it with a tour, and nobody came to watch him. Just because you have Twitter followers and Facebook doesn’t mean a whole lot and [doesn't mean] people are going to pay to see you. A lot of that is misjudged. Just because you have people on their phone or Internet doesn’t mean they are going to pay. Same for the Network. I think they misjudged the popularity of it. I simply can't imagine Steiner saying any of that. There's not enough madness there. I don't think he's quite right that the Attitude Era was the best era, but he's right in that competition prevents WWE from taking the easy road and being safe.
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DrVenkman posted:Scott Steiner is the surprising voice of reason: You gotta read the rest of the interview where he snaps back into character. quote:“Do I look like a little kid to you? Comic books are a big thing. I looked at them when I was a kid. I’m not a kid anymore, so I kind of grew out of that phase,” he said. “There is obviously a place for them because the movies do so good. The ‘S’ is because my freaks realized they weren’t with a normal man but a Superman. That’s why they called me the “Big Bad Booty Daddy.”
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DrVenkman posted:Scott Steiner is the surprising voice of reason: He's hardly saying anything insightfuul that hasn't been regurgitated a million times for the last 5-10 years. He's mostly right, but this isn't some amazing revelation no one else has thought to bring up. However I agree with all of your assessment of what he said, right down to agreeing that I think the Attitude Era as a whole gets romanticized to a really goddamn irritating degree. I WATCHED the Attitude Era. Live. It's partly what got me hooked on wrestling. But I think in every way but the most important ones (mostly writing, actually) it's largely better now. If you take the entirety of modern WWE and just shift it to more Attitude Era rules on scripting promos and I bet it'd be a billion times better.
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He's also right because if two shows are going against each other, when something bad is happening on one show you can flip to the other, so you get to see the best hours possible instead of going 'ugh just finish this segment already'. Plus of course that competition inherently benefits the workers. rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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oatgan posted:Someone please tell Scott Steiner that WCW was PG Scott Steiner promos sure weren't PG haha
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triplexpac posted:Scott Steiner promos sure weren't PG haha And he got suspended for them!
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SamuraiFoochs posted:He's hardly saying anything insightfuul that hasn't been regurgitated a million times for the last 5-10 years. He's mostly right, but this isn't some amazing revelation no one else has thought to bring up. However I agree with all of your assessment of what he said, right down to agreeing that I think the Attitude Era as a whole gets romanticized to a really goddamn irritating degree. Oh no of course, I'm not saying he has anything new to say. It's just funny to see The Big Bad Booty Daddy do it while he momentarily slips out of character. I'm going through the attitude era again and while there's some unabashed abandon to it (Like a coked up Shane O'Mac on the Wrestlemania Rage Party) it's also sadly some real ugly stuff there. The 'Women as gently caress objects' thing was at its height (Conversely while having a decent women's division) and they were pulling bullshit like giving birth to a hand. What I do like though is that there was a willingness to try new ideas that's missing now. Yes quality control went down and it's definitely a product of its time, but there was an attitude (get it) of 'gently caress it, lets try it' that's missing now. Yes the overall writing is better now, but it's all sterile and overwritten and there's little freedom afforded to the wrestlers.
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