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rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


He's also right because if two shows are going against each other, when something bad is happening on one show you can flip to the other, so you get to see the best hours possible instead of going 'ugh just finish this segment already'.

Plus of course that competition inherently benefits the workers.

rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 29, 2014

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rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


oatgan posted:

And he got suspended for them!

Less a suspension and more a paid vacation, honestly.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Roman Reigns's problem is (and is going to be down the road) that he's perceived as a guy who WWE wants, and thus no matter how good he is he'll get crapped on by the same people who chant CM Punk at WWE World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan for not crippling himself.

See also: These kinds of fans still hold 18 seconds against Sheamus even though that was easily the best thing to happen for Daniel Bryan's WWE career until WM30.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


I, for one, hope WWE gives this young upstart Real Estate Steve (or as WWE followers might know him, Sting) a legitimate chance to succeed. :ohdear:

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


triplexpac posted:

That's funny because I'd consider the guys who worked their way up on the indies for years to be the ones more likely to stick around in wrestling

Yeah, but you need to consider outside factors. What if those indie wrestlers get adopted by Thor and become animes?

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


The_Rob posted:

Can someone explain why this number is atrocious? Over half a million in 6 months for a product this niche sounds pretty drat good. Especially considering it is attempting am entirely new way to do live events. Other than they thought more people would join why is this the worst number ever?

How does 33,000 since Wrestlemania sound to you? That's with these numbers being before anyone who is trying to cancel legit can do so.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


triplexpac posted:

The closest comparison to this is UFC Fight Pass. They know they are a niche product, they expect low subscriber numbers, and now they're pleasantly surprised when things are going better than they thought (still way less than WWE Network Subscribers)

UFC isn't killing their PPV revenue to put together Fight Pass though. The two aren't even remotely comparable.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Really though, the reason this number is so terrible is the almost complete lack of growth combined with the fact that international PPV numbers have been hit very hard, meaning that the international expansion of the Network probably won't do too much for the product.

It's not just 700,000 subscribers being below what they want, it's 700,000 subscribers with not all that much room to grow, and once again, this is before anybody who isn't finding a way to sneak out of their commitment can cancel, so this could easily be the peak number until WM31.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


UltimoDragonQuest posted:

So about those trial gimmicks inflating numbers.

Oh god. :stare:

Would this then be the number of paying subscribers?

rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 31, 2014

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Gonz posted:

Too bad Jerry Lawler is going to get fired today, then locked inside an international shipping crate and sent to North Korea.

So he and Jeremy Borash are going to do commentary for the Wrestling World All-Stars? :v:

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011



He meant Bo Dallas.

Wait. :smith:

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


oldpainless posted:

They're worth cash

If Vince McMahon were to sell all his stock, the value of his individual shares would be fairly tiny compared to the value of owning WWE.

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rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


oatgan posted:

dont give them a reason to expect him, then

If you give people no reason to expect him, then they'll go "Well it's obviously a swerve, Daniel Bryan is returning and winning the Rumble!" then be mad when it doesn't happen and break their TVs.

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