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Bored: Jul 26, 2007; Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Ableist Kinkshamer posted:

Apologies if this has already been posted:

I was hanging out with a group of my friends and we were playing charades, and a few minutes of the game a thought hit me. This game is actually really problematic in a lot of ways that I’d never noticed before.

But even in a game where you’re not guessing names of people, or players aren’t using problematic stereotypes, I think there’s a bigger problem with the whole nature of the game. It’s ableist. You’re stepping into the shoes of someone who can’t speak- someone with a communication disorder, someone who is nonverbal, someone who is Autistic.

I...I can't believe this is real. This isn't real, right? You're just discrediting SJW's (like your av says) with this? Please? It would be problematic for this to be real.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 17:58

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 05:55

CommonTerry: Dec 16, 2013; good is soda grape

Bored posted:

I...I can't believe this is real. This isn't real, right? You're just discrediting SJW's (like your av says) with this? Please? It would be problematic for this to be real.

Nah it's real. just search for "cultural appropriation" on tumblr and find out that "feminazi" isn't a joke term.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 18:39

Tamerlame: Oct 20, 2012

FrostedButts posted:

Not about dead black transgenders, you bigot.

I used to be a man. You're a shitlord for assuming otherwise.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 18:53

Evilreaver: Feb 26, 2007; GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!; Dinosaur Gum

Tamerlame posted:

I used to be a man. You're a shitlord for assuming otherwise.

How do you know xe's not a poo poolady? Perhaps it is you who is the scum.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 18:55

Tamerlame: Oct 20, 2012

Evilreaver posted:

How do you know xe's not a poo poolady? Perhaps it is you who is the scum.

Are you trying to imply that only cismales can be lords? Wow, I'm literally having a seizure because of you.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 19:20

Paladinus: Jan 11, 2014; heyHEYYYY!!!

Ableist Kinkshamer posted:

Apologies if this has already been posted:

I was hanging out with a group of my friends and we were playing charades, and a few minutes of the game a thought hit me. This game is actually really problematic in a lot of ways that I’d never noticed before.

First, it tends to lead people to caricaturing; if the word you’re trying to guess is a person of any minority, be sure that the person who is acting it out is going to throw every racial stereotype possible into their act. For a woman, they’ll be swinging their hips and batting eyelashes. To make it easier to guess, sure, but is that how we want to be defining people?

But even in a game where you’re not guessing names of people, or players aren’t using problematic stereotypes, I think there’s a bigger problem with the whole nature of the game. It’s ableist. You’re stepping into the shoes of someone who can’t speak- someone with a communication disorder, someone who is nonverbal, someone who is Autistic. You’re trying desperately to communicate with the people around you, but it’s just a game that you can step out of. You can exasperatedly say “Guys, it was Uzbekistan- how did you not get that??” when your time runs out. The nonverbal person can’t do that. The wild acting out is almost making fun of nonverbal people who may have no other choices when trying to convey a message.

I also wonder what the Deaf community thinks about it. It turns their lived experience into a game as well, having to take in all their communication by sight. The signals for syllables and words is almost a pale imitation of ASL, verging on appropriation.

So that’s why I quit playing. I don’t want to turn other people’s experiences into a charade. I recognize the privileges that I have as a mostly able-bodied person and I’m not going to pretend to be Disabled for fun. I encourage all of you to think critically about the things in your life that seem normal but may actually be expressing ableism or cultural appropriation.

My friends and I were playing charades on a train once. Turned out some kids from a school for hearing impaired were traveling with us. At some point one of them got in the centre of the car, got our attention by waving hands and clapping and then showed a couple of exaggerated rude gestures at us. He then bowed and we all laughed. His mother/teacher didn't give us a chance to chat with him, so to this day I don't know if the lad was just being cheeky, or got offended and genuinely was rude to us.

# ? Oct 21, 2014 20:11

DAD LOST MY IPOD: Feb 3, 2012; Fats Dominar is on the case

the ableism crowd on tumblr is into some harrison bergeron poo poo i tell you what

# ? Oct 21, 2014 20:42

coolskull: Nov 11, 2007

if you're doing charades and pull "black person" out of the hat that's more an issue with your social group

# ? Oct 22, 2014 00:00

Lonely Virgil: Oct 9, 2012

# ? Oct 22, 2014 01:21

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Lonely Virgil posted:

Lol just call them gingerbread people for fucks sake!

# ? Oct 22, 2014 01:27

Irradiation: Sep 14, 2005; I understand your frustration.

JFairfax posted:

Lol just call them gingerbread people for fucks sake!

Don't otherkin shame.

# ? Oct 22, 2014 01:31

Ariza: Feb 8, 2006

Lonely Virgil posted:

It was a joke, yeah. Some Irish shop I think. Still dumb though. For genderriffic ginger breads, watch Shrek's Spooky Tales on Netflix. That bitch be crazy!

# ? Oct 22, 2014 01:43

Khazar-khum: Oct 22, 2008; Cat Army
2nd Battalion

Tamerlame posted:

Are you trying to imply that only cismales can be lords? Wow, I'm literally having a seizure because of you.

I have epilepsy and you poo poo 'normals' are triggering me with your apppropppproaatioamnsnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

# ? Oct 22, 2014 08:55

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Lonely Virgil posted:

But are they gluten free?

# ? Oct 22, 2014 21:03

Windows 98: Nov 13, 2005; HTTP 400: Bad post

# ? Oct 22, 2014 21:33

Over There: Jun 28, 2013; by Azathoth

Windows 98 posted:

Nah the fatass would counter it. They never give up.

# ? Oct 22, 2014 21:52

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Ariza posted:

It was a joke, yeah. Some Irish shop I think. Still dumb though. For genderriffic ginger breads, watch Shrek's Spooky Tales on Netflix. That bitch be crazy!

An Irish shop with a $ sign.
Those crazy dumb bog hoppers.

# ? Oct 22, 2014 22:15

Tamerlame: Oct 20, 2012

So if I'm understanding all this correctly it's essentially just an arms race of discrimination. You win if you end up being the most discriminated against, but everyone just keeps on creating new ways to be discriminated. So right now we're at the point where there's no longer any way to quantify the discrimination, because no one knows who's more discriminated against a trans-black homosexual pagan fishkin or an asian autistic vampire headmate-emporium.

# ? Oct 22, 2014 22:42

Ariza: Feb 8, 2006

happyhippy posted:

An Irish shop with a $ sign.
Those crazy dumb bog hoppers.

Sorry it was the other drunk criminal country.

# ? Oct 22, 2014 23:33

Futaba Anzu: May 6, 2011; GROSS BOY

i like to look at pictures of dinosaurs and porn on tumblr, sometimes both at the same time

# ? Oct 23, 2014 00:43

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
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pandaK posted:

i like to look at pictures of dinosaurs and porn on tumblr, sometimes both at the same time

I can't tell if your avatar is freaky rear end porn or not.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 00:58

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3

pandaK posted:

i like to look at pictures of dinosaurs and porn on tumblr, sometimes both at the same time

I asked some friends and they say your avatar is probably freaky rear end porn. What do you have to say for yourself mister.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 02:37

coolskull: Nov 11, 2007

former friends

# ? Oct 23, 2014 02:53

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3

BKPR posted:

former friends

sacrifices have to be made in the pursuit of knowledge.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 03:11

Steampunk iPhone: Sep 2, 2009; by XyloJW

(its ok she's still posting on tumblr as of today)

# ? Oct 23, 2014 04:08

Present: Oct 28, 2011; by Shine

^

Is this when you breathe in helium to talk in a funny voice like in the cartoons?

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:04

Evilreaver: Feb 26, 2007; GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!; Dinosaur Gum

Present posted:

^

Is this when you breathe in helium to talk in a funny voice like in the cartoons?

Helium (or any inert gas), when you breathe it in high concentrations, will knock you out and kill you quickly and surprisingly. Your body only 'tracks' CO2 buildup and doesn't notice 'I'm getting no oxygen' until it literally passes out and dies. No flailing, choking, etc. Good way to suicide.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:26

CommonTerry: Dec 16, 2013; good is soda grape

Evilreaver posted:

Good way to suicide.

If you're a woman

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:30

Code Jockey: Jan 24, 2006; 69420 basic bytes free

Evilreaver posted:

Helium (or any inert gas), when you breathe it in high concentrations, will knock you out and kill you quickly and surprisingly. Your body only 'tracks' CO2 buildup and doesn't notice 'I'm getting no oxygen' until it literally passes out and dies. No flailing, choking, etc. Good way to suicide.

this is good to know, thank you

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:48

Noyemi K: Dec 9, 2012; youll always be so sleepy when youre this tiny *plompf*

the best way to suicide is to jump into an active volcano

it's probably the most metal next to chewing an active grenade (or, for bonus points, inserting it into your rectum)

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:52

Khazar-khum: Oct 22, 2008; Cat Army
2nd Battalion

Noyemi K posted:

the best way to suicide is to jump into an active volcano

it's probably the most metal next to chewing an active grenade (or, for bonus points, inserting it into your rectum)

There are people who jump into active volcanoes for a living. They're called 'volcanologists'.

Volcanokin have a fetish for virgins.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 05:56

Present: Oct 28, 2011; by Shine

Evilreaver posted:

Helium (or any inert gas), when you breathe it in high concentrations, will knock you out and kill you quickly and surprisingly. Your body only 'tracks' CO2 buildup and doesn't notice 'I'm getting no oxygen' until it literally passes out and dies. No flailing, choking, etc. Good way to suicide.

I was hoping she just wanted to get her funny voice thing perfect.

Oh hell she's got a suicide hashtag right on there, I'm dumb.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 06:17

SBJ: Apr 10, 2009; Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky

WAR FOOT posted:

But does that take into account my gender of Iceberg? My pronouns are Ice/Berg/Bergself.

Are you Jewish

# ? Oct 23, 2014 06:46

rodbeard: Jul 21, 2005

Evilreaver posted:

Helium (or any inert gas), when you breathe it in high concentrations, will knock you out and kill you quickly and surprisingly. Your body only 'tracks' CO2 buildup and doesn't notice 'I'm getting no oxygen' until it literally passes out and dies. No flailing, choking, etc. Good way to suicide.

It's typically done with heavier gasses though. Helium would actually probably just get pushed out by the heavier air once the person passes out.

# ? Oct 23, 2014 07:22

SBJ: Apr 10, 2009; Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky

rodbeard posted:

It's typically done with heavier gasses though. Helium would actually probably just get pushed out by the heavier air once the person passes out.

Life saving farts

# ? Oct 23, 2014 07:25

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

she is a woman, on tumblr, the chance of her actually killing herself is 0.01%

# ? Oct 23, 2014 10:21

Fatkraken: Jun 23, 2005; Fun-time is over.

rodbeard posted:

It's typically done with heavier gasses though. Helium would actually probably just get pushed out by the heavier air once the person passes out.

also the readily available cannisters of helium used for balloons are actually a helium-air mixture specifically to avoid killing people stupid enough to huff the stuff

# ? Oct 23, 2014 10:33

Ariza: Feb 8, 2006

Fatkraken posted:

also the readily available cannisters of helium used for balloons are actually a helium-air mixture specifically to avoid killing people stupid enough to huff the stuff

quote:

What is the purity of the helium in Balloon Time tanks?

There are many types of helium concentrations based upon the application for the helium. Medical helium is over 99% pure. Balloon grade helium is approximately 94% - 96% pure. Our helium has been tested to be at least 98% pure, with most readings over 99% pure.