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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


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Aren't the LNP already having enough trouble pushing through their budget? Now isn't the time for the to try crafting up more unpopular legislation, surely.

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Those On My Left posted:

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

Can I ask how exactly you're being screwed over by Westpac? I'm with Westpac, and the worst I can actually articulate about them is that I don't like their online banking, it feels kind of borked and non-user-friendly.

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Literally the best comments section on Youtube.

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Captain Pissweak posted:

I didn't learn we lost at school.

A movie taught me that.

I seem to say this every month, so time to get it out of the way early this time:

Similarly, I didn't know we lost at Gallipoli until seeing the actual movie; it was apparently more important that we know what an Australian trench looked like, down to specific details, than whether or not we won in them.

The worse one to me is still Eureka, though. I didn't know it was a failure until last year, when explaining the name of the Australian mech from Pacific Rim to an American friend of mine. Guillermo del Toro indirectly taught me more Australian history than my actual Australian history course.

That lovely Howard history curriculum REALLY hosed up my sense of both perspective and actual historical fact. Not only did it gloss over our failures and shady poo poo (of which there were many; Australia hasn't exactly had the most glorious history), the overfocus on what little we do have meant that I had a twisted grasp of the history of the rest of the world in comparison.

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Jumpingmanjim posted:

I know of people who genuinely thought for years that tassie had a senator named Erica Betz.

I was convinced for about a month that was the case. Abetz just isn't really important enough to bother fact-checking that.

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SynthOrange posted:

says ABC's scrolling newsbar. :allears:

Unrelated, but am I the only oe that has difficulty reading news tickers because sketch comedy has trained me to think of them as a joke delivery mechanism?

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It strikes me that if Pyne believes that, for example, specific courses should cost less money to enrol in for whatever reason, it's probably within his power as Minister for Education to do that. Like, for example, that perhaps he could regulate the tertiary education sector to do so.

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Vladimir Poutine posted:

I assume this is the case as well. Pyne's electorate specifically has a few gated communities and neighbourhoods with massive houses, most of which I assume are occupied by Liberal voters. But he could well lose his seat next election.

Yeah, the seat of Sturt is pretty hardline Liberal. If anything, Pyne will be what changes that; he is so colossally unpopular, not even the safe Liberal seat he's in wants him.

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DAAS Kapitalist posted:

There's this article about how Target can work out that a woman is pregnant and estimate the delivery date without her buying anything explicitly baby related.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

Yeah, I remember seeing this one on the Checkout. I was honestly more impressed than anything else.

Maybe it's because I've never had this come up as a personal issue, but I'm not phenomenally against shops and services using my direct history with them to tune things specifically to me. Sellign personal information, okay, that's lovely and I'm against it, but I find it hard to be pissed off at them using the information I directly gave them. Hell, I'm all for it in theory; I'd probably hate ads a lot less if they were about things I actually cared about.

Again, maybe just lack of experience, and I'd change my mind when how it actually works rubs up against me. While it's most definitely more and worse, I'm all for Target going 'yo, you buy a lot of X and Y, our ridonkulous amounts of data indicate that you might also like Z'.

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Brown Paper Bag posted:

Abbott is losing/has lost the support of voters for his domestic policies, so him and his media boosters are trying to change the topic to terrorism. You need a strong leader to stand up to terrorism! :australia:

Perhaps not the best choice of direction for them, our leader doesn't even have the strength to stand up to his own Cabinet.

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gently caress it, just write out your entire resume by hand. It'll make you stand out, or something!

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Anidav posted:

Direct job creator to a cave where you have wall painted your resume then proceed to do interpretative dance and pray it rains jobs.

Still better for finding jobs than searching Seek.

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Anidav posted:

Seek is the worst website ever and I've never actually known a person who has found a job there.

Also that loving website has been putting up mere "expression of interest" for months. Why the gently caress do you care to add an extra step to applying for a waitstaff job, jesus why.

I've gotten a single interview from combing Seek, and it was for a data entry job advertised by a recruitment agency, so I'm pretty sure it doesn't count.

Thing is, since I don't have any contacts, and I'm not exactly in a field that works for just walking in with my resume (writing with a focus on editing, but really I'll just take loving anything that's mostly computer at this point), I don't really have any other way to do things.

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Endman posted:

They couldn't even bother resizing her face properly? They just squashed it in there. Poor form.

I'm surprised they squashed her vertically; people like that would normally be all over trying to make her look fatter.

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First ep was last night after QI, it's on iView. It's pretty good.

After it was Reality Check, a show aobut reality TV from the guys that made Gruen. Which had a decently strong start, at least. I don't see it being as well-regarded as Gruen, or as long-lived, but it's solid enough.

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Anidav posted:

Probably but after Bill Glasson every assignment I've done just feels like secretly working for Satan.

At this point, next year you will be doing an unpaid internship for Satan.

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xutech posted:

As a "Poly" I will say that the main problems with Jonah from Tonga is that he's from Tonga.

If it was never clear where he was from it would be fine, but as soon as you impugn the pride of one particular group (i.e Tongans) it's a massively big deal.

Yeah, I can agree with that. I'm sure Lilley didn't intend it to seem like 'all Tongans are like this', but... christ, it comes off like it. I don't think it would've been possible to write it while avoiding where he was actually from, since his pride in his heritage is pretty big to both him and the structural integrity of the show, but it probably could've managed a lot better if the place was fictional.

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I feel like, while Chris Lilley's gimmick of playing his own characters regardless of who they are generally works pretty well for him (he's good enough to play most of these characters pretty convincingly, it lets him really pull off the ensemble shows, and can let him get away with certain things that wouldn't otherwise fly for the audience), it worked against him with Jonah's show. It worked well enough in Summer Heights High, because his ethnicity wasn't as much of an issue; he was a problem kid struggling at both school and home, that just happened to be Tongan. Like Laserface said, there are Jonahs all over Australian schools, of all different ethnicities (mine were an Afghani and Sudanese; I know the Sudanese was a refugee, I don't think the Afghani was).

Making Jonah's ethnicity more central, while remaining in the role himself, was Lilley's big misstep in Jonah's own series. I honestly don't think his non-ensemble shows are very good, because his plotlines don't need a full half-hour episode and his characters aren't deep enough to carry one solo, but Jonah was a very bad choice for exactly that reason. If the entire thing was exactly the same, but with an actual Tongan boy playing Jonah, it probably would've stood fairly well, but that was just not an option.

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Gough Suppressant posted:

Let's look at some of Lilley's other stuff to see if claims of his work being racist are unfou-



Yeah, I liked Angry Boys and I'm not gonna defend S.Mouse.

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

In more surprising news, they had one Liberal MP today that actually came across as honest.

I wonder how he feels about that. Disappointed in everyone else, as amused as all of us, or cursing himself for not getting all the bribes that everyone else apparently got?

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So my Seek searches have pulled up a job that I'm qualified for, but is openly Christian and demanding that the applicant be of a Christian faith.

What do people recommend? Apply anyway and just gloss over the fact I'm an atheist, or just not even bother applying because that's a can of worms that'll open inevitably and not be pretty when it does?

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Yeah, I was pretty sure it was discrimination, and so not actually stopping me from applying to it. I was mostly asking because, well, it's a hardline Christian place, which is a workplace environment that I'm not surprised to hear isn't super healthy.

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Murodese posted:

Out of curiosity, what kind of work/industry is it?

Just desk work and admin stuff. But I just looked at their website, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't last a week there before snapping and hurting some people. I expected the to be kind of awful but probably harmless, but with a name like 'Family Voice Australia' I really should've known.

Read 'em and weep.

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epipen posted:

:siren:https://www.couriermail.com.au/news...v-1227027391964:siren:


lol.
tl;dr: wahhhh people are questioning ~the will of the people~

"The population is overwhelmingly against the things that the politicians of the supposedly representative democracy want to do. This is clearly a problem with the voters."

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Mithranderp posted:

Depends on the the legislation which relates to local council elections. And possibly the NSW constitution.

e: ooh, I've finally lost the newbie avatar.

They replaced the Stupid Newbie avatar (as well as the probation kitty), apparently. I'm still seeing the baby, so I dunno.

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This fearmongering me-tooism is really disgusting, but what gets me is that it's always so full of individual statements that I can agree with, for exactly the opposite reason they said it.

Like, yeah, I could see barbaric, senselessly evil acts of terrorism in Australia. But I don't see the people being targeted by this sort of thing being on the side that's doing it.

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So I don't particularly remember, what was in it? It had to have been good to produce that response.

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Okay, I was figuring it was maybe an ethical issue, or a detailing of shady business practices or lack of journalistic integrity. I should've figured that it would have to be something as simple as 'saying they're losing money'.

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Les Affaires posted:

Do you think Bart Bassett will be... hounded... by the media? :D

:siren: PLATINUM BASSETT :siren:

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Nuclear Spy posted:

Probably hiding some big news like Hockey 'stepping down' as Treasurer, a bit like this front page the day after Rudd announced the federal election.



The guy that does the NT News front page is the greatest Australian comedian of our generation.

Sorry, Josh Thomas.

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Endman posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-25/funding-cut-to-awms-touring-exhibitions-program/5695364


I'm going to assume this is because the exhibition contained too much truth that was damaging to the government's ANZAC propaganda about how great war is.

It contains proof that we lost at Gallipoli and were ineffectual as a whole, so it's gone.

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Adam Hills is Australia's second-best comedian, after the guy that does the NT News front pages.

Sorry, Josh Thomas.


But yeah, would've declared some sort of technicality as a reason they can't go. They wouldn't even be safe in the military base they'd be housed up in, given how many soldiers' funerals they've picketed.

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Ragingsheep posted:

As if that's going to stop Tony.

Yeah, I expect SA, especially the more prominent Labor sections, to get the poo poo kicked out of them by the federal government over the next couple years. Because really, what've they got to lose?

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Is there a way to combat this particular opinion? Because my family is really bad about it. I've tried to say that I see far worse from old white people and twenty-somethings, but that didn't work.

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Lid posted:

Nile concluded by outlining what his ideal society would look like.

“[It would be] a society marked by faithful, lasting, lifelong marriages between a man and woman,” he said.

“A drug-free society. A pro-life society. No pornography or prostitution. A society with wholesome public entertainment. A God-honouring, Christ-centred Christian nation.”

Three people gave him a standing ovation.

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Key themes from the day included equating sexual health with sterilisation and abortion; and criticising fatherless families for leading to broken homes and homeless children.

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Louise Kirk, UK coordinator for Alive to the World character education, spoke about a “scourge” overtaking schools – sex education.

“This is a scourge because from a breakdown of the passing down of values from parents in all our societies, children are lost,” she said.

“And there is no one to pick them up and aspire them to marriage.”

She said children had spiritual imagination which was filled with God.

“And if they’re not filled with God there isn’t a vacuum,” she said.

“Without God they get filled with they get filled with pornography or terror or computer games.

“If you’re going to teach children sexuality you need to teach children correctly with the best teachers. And the best teachers are the parents. The parents protect their modesty.”

These people are describing the most boring loving society. Like, even aside from the moral bankruptcy that causes them to say this stuff, they are describing the most joyless, bland civilization I could ever think of.

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