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TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

ArbitraryC posted:

Well I mean it kind of does though, it's medically recognized. There's a lot of made up special snowflake stuff on tumblr, but the concept of transgendered isn't one. If you're trying to say that their sex will always be the one they were born as, that's fair and scientifically true, but being of male sex and wanting to present socially as a female in gender (or vice versa) is a phenomenon that's been studied and shown to be a real thing. The recommended treatment is to help them transition. Like this isn't tumblr kids but legit medical doctors and scientists whom you most certainly do not know better than on the topic.

the problem is this assumes that doctors/scientist can't be flawed idiots like every other human being alive. Doctors/scientist are just as terrible as regular people or worse as history has shown. People that are gender confused make up such a small percentage of the population no one should be forced to cater to them, as far as i'm concerned they are the same level of human as a retard.

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ReptileChillock
Jan 7, 2014

by Lowtax
Also MY TAX DOLLARS

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
cats and dogs, living together, mass hysteria

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

BeefThief posted:

What's the technical problem with what I said? I pay taxes to support these people sitting posting on tumblr all day instead of working, why do they get to decide what's correct? Why is their opinion that more valid?

for starters I doubt anyone stupid enough to say these words makes enough money to pay any substantial amount of taxes

Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013

Gazpacho posted:

i laugh at your all's reactionary tears

we'll see who's laughing when the genderqueer-freak steamroller literally crushes america

its me

i'll be laughing

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


sounds like a victory for a tolerant, liberal society OP. lol op's a little bitch human being who can't accept someone identifying in an unfamiliar way. kill yourself lol

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

dontcareaboutname posted:

the problem is this assumes that doctors/scientist can't be flawed idiots like every other human being alive. Doctors/scientist are just as terrible as regular people or worse as history has shown.
Yeah because science is pretty self correcting, if other people think your results are dubious they'll run their own studies and try to prove them wrong. Presently transgenderism has been recognized for quite some time as a legit medical thing for which the best treatment is to just help the person transition to what makes them more comfortable.

quote:

People that are gender confused make up such a small percentage of the population no one should be forced to cater to them, as far as i'm concerned they are the same level of human as a retard.
This I will sorta of give you as I feel kinda similarly about it. The rates of GID are really low and your average university should have somewhere between 0-2 students with it, a public k-12 level school should have like 1 kid with GID between several schools. The idea that we need to like overhaul our bathrooms or how administration deals with such fringe cases seems kind of excessive.

I think a problem is that it's like the only rights millennials feel need to be fought for. Like more and more states are legalizing gay marriage, that's kind of inevitable. sexism and racism are still obviously real but they're on a more subtle institutional level that makes it hard to find specific incidents/causes to rally around. But transgender rights are a new frontier of discrimination to fight and social progress to be made so you get gen y's all over the country tripping over themselves to make transgender rights a big issue in their student bodies even though no one involved has GID.

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer
:cripes:

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
no for real though, GID is a real thing, you know, doctors, people trained to determine this stuff and people who are generally smarter than you or I have found this to be the case after building on, well, millennia of accumulated medical knowledge and study of the human body

it is, in fact, possible to be born with a brain that is wired to be in a body the opposite sex of what you are

you're also wrong in saying that gender is not a cultural construct. it is. as mentioned here, some cultures do have non-binary concepts of gender, though to my knowledge most of them can be more accurately explained as having more than one "type" of each gender. more importantly, though, gender concerns more than just what sex you are, which is why things concepts like "tomboy" exist.

but I'm thinking we'll agree in that this is where the ambiguity ends, ultimately you are either male or female. if you don't identify with the body parts you were born with, cool whatever idgaf but I'm not going to pay you any mind if you start making up bullshit concepts out of whole cloth just to be extra special.

Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013

icantfindaname posted:

sounds like a victory for a tolerant, liberal society OP. lol op's a little bitch human being

lol the only faggots are the ones calling themselves xe and xem

ReptileChillock
Jan 7, 2014

by Lowtax
As of right now would you say the world contains more trannies than dismembered Gazans?

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica

icantfindaname posted:

sounds like a victory for a tolerant, liberal society OP. lol op's a little bitch human being who can't accept someone identifying in an unfamiliar way. kill yourself lol

lol canada is a tolerant liberal society, have you ever been to alberta or anywhere in quebec outside of montreal

Jerry Mumphrey
Mar 11, 2004

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 4 years!)

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

no for real though, GID is a real thing, you know, doctors, people trained to determine this stuff and people who are generally smarter than you or I have found this to be the case after building on, well, millennia of accumulated medical knowledge and study of the human body

it is, in fact, possible to be born with a brain that is wired to be in a body the opposite sex of what you are

you're also wrong in saying that gender is not a cultural construct. it is. as mentioned here, some cultures do have non-binary concepts of gender, though to my knowledge most of them can be more accurately explained as having more than one "type" of each gender. more importantly, though, gender concerns more than just what sex you are, which is why things concepts like "tomboy" exist.

but I'm thinking we'll agree in that this is where the ambiguity ends, ultimately you are either male or female. if you don't identify with the body parts you were born with, cool whatever idgaf but I'm not going to pay you any mind if you start making up bullshit concepts out of whole cloth just to be extra special.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

ArbitraryC posted:

This I will sorta of give you as I feel kinda similarly about it. The rates of GID are really low and your average university should have somewhere between 0-2 students with it, a public k-12 level school should have like 1 kid with GID between several schools. The idea that we need to like overhaul our bathrooms or how administration deals with such fringe cases seems kind of excessive.
"There's not enough of them to make me personally care, so gently caress them."

ReptileChillock posted:

As of right now would you say the world contains more trannies than dismembered Gazans?
It's a wash.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
hold on im going to own the poo poo out of some teenagers with my next post. get ready.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

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WHITE POWER
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Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013

ReptileChillock posted:

As of right now would you say the world contains more trannies than dismembered Gazans?

unironically the right to convert your privileged gen y cock into an ersatz meat hole is far more important than some third worlder's right not to have their house blown the gently caress up

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Cardiovorax posted:

"There's not enough of them to make me personally care, so gently caress them."
It's not really that so much as I feel like the level of attention and focus they're currently getting in the media and particularly in school systems is disproportionate to the number of people the problem actually affects.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Al Cowens posted:

Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

yeah p much

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
this is NOT the post in which i will own the teenagers, i am just letting everyone know that the sick burn is coming along well and should be ready for use shortly

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

The shape of her mouth pisses me off like Miley Cyrus' mouth does. I can't articulate why though but I want to kill them.

pretty sure that's a dude

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Al Cowens posted:

Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

Honestly I'd rather all bathrooms be unisex because then everything would be in stalls and you wouldn't have to worry about that guy who always stands as close as possible when you're trying to take a leak despite their being tons of empty spots down the row.

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW
how long till gentics/eugenics gives us people that are all the same shade of skin color wiht a cloaca with all sex organs.

Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013

Jesus Christ posted:

pretty sure that's a dude

in this brave new xe world how can you tell

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

ArbitraryC posted:

It's not really that so much as I feel like the level of attention and focus they're currently getting in the media and particularly in school systems is disproportionate to the number of people the problem actually affects.
60% of the people the problem affects kill themselves and the rest are at a higher risk of hate crimes than even gay people or muslims or gay muslims. I think a decent amount of attention is warranted.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Jesus Christ posted:

pretty sure that's a dude
She iswas a tumblr special snowflake who grew out of that nonsense and is now just a regular old fashioned feminine straight white woman that she always was inside but her legacy will forever be the die cis scum video

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

Cardiovorax posted:

60% of the people the problem affects kill themselves and the rest are at a higher risk of hate crimes than even gay people or muslims or gay muslims. I think a decent amount of attention is warranted.

so like .000001 percent of the population killing themselves is an issue, being not white is a bigger problem for more people in america than people dealing with gender confusion.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Western society decadent and in decline, film at 11.

Cardiovorax posted:

60% of the people the problem affects kill themselves and the rest are at a higher risk of hate crimes than even gay people or muslims or gay muslims. I think a decent amount of attention is warranted.

Only 60% is a shame. That means the remaining 40% may survive to leech on my taxes because socialised medicine pays for their hosed up fetish operations.

NihilismNow fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 1, 2014

Twelve Batmans
Dec 24, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
IIRC some statistician investigated claims of violence against trans people to find that the numbers were somewhat grossly inflated. But trannies would never do that. Trannies and attention-whoring are like polar opposites.

Suzuki Method
Mar 12, 2012

Al Cowens posted:

Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

lol yea this will go down well at a middle/high school

or a nightclub

greg sexyvibes
May 7, 2007
IF I EVER FIRST POST AGAIN SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO ME
3 pages in 3 hours. You people really are obsessed with transgender people.


Sometimes when I go out drinking and I'm buying Mexican food, masculine mtf transgender prostitutes hit on me. You'd think that customer base canes to you and you don't need to solicit customers, but it keeps happening.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008
i remember a time when people didnt need to be special snowflakes to make themselves known.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

NihilismNow posted:

Only 60% is a shame. That means the remaining 40% may survive to leech on my taxes because socialised medicine pays for their hosed up fetish operations.
You've never been more useful for society.

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW
we should require 3 bathrooms for every building men women and one for loving.

Office Thug
Jan 17, 2008

Luke Cage just shut you down!
this is just the first step, next thing you know the wierd sex people will be turning US into weird sex things :tinfoil:

ghlbtsk
Apr 19, 2005

these bath mats
are
GORGEOUS

Al Cowens posted:

Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

Because of rape culture, or privilege, or triggering, or any of the other assorted tumblrspeak words.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
May i suggest the addition of special shower stalls to the Xe,Xem bathroom?

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ghlbtsk
Apr 19, 2005

these bath mats
are
GORGEOUS

Musket posted:

i remember a time when people didnt need to be special snowflakes to make themselves known.

i remember a time when people didnt need to make themselves known.

dontcareaboutname posted:

we should require 3 bathrooms for every building men women and one for loving.

:master:

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