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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Wingless posted:

Wouldn't, say, a transboy want to be called he? And a transgirl she? Who wants to be xe?

people who don't identify as their own gender but aren't trans, they are so super special that they can't be called he nor she

most identify either as simply no gender or as some kind of ambiguous "third" or "non-binary" gender, which as far as I can tell (and I've tried) means basically nothing

please do not conflate actual trans people with this bullshit

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

it means, "the cis scum"

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

BeefThief posted:

Gender isn't a construct: you either have a dick or a pussy (making you boy or girl, respectively) or somewhere in between (from a genetic disease). A guy that gets his dick flayed, inverted and stuffed up his rear end in a top hat to create some kind of eldritch horrorpussy still has that pesky little Y chromosome, making him a HE-SHE. Anything else is pure mental illness.

cool stuff bro, not actually accurate but man it sure is edgy

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

BeefThief posted:

What's the technical problem with what I said? I pay taxes to support these people sitting posting on tumblr all day instead of working, why do they get to decide what's correct? Why is their opinion that more valid?

for starters I doubt anyone stupid enough to say these words makes enough money to pay any substantial amount of taxes

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
no for real though, GID is a real thing, you know, doctors, people trained to determine this stuff and people who are generally smarter than you or I have found this to be the case after building on, well, millennia of accumulated medical knowledge and study of the human body

it is, in fact, possible to be born with a brain that is wired to be in a body the opposite sex of what you are

you're also wrong in saying that gender is not a cultural construct. it is. as mentioned here, some cultures do have non-binary concepts of gender, though to my knowledge most of them can be more accurately explained as having more than one "type" of each gender. more importantly, though, gender concerns more than just what sex you are, which is why things concepts like "tomboy" exist.

but I'm thinking we'll agree in that this is where the ambiguity ends, ultimately you are either male or female. if you don't identify with the body parts you were born with, cool whatever idgaf but I'm not going to pay you any mind if you start making up bullshit concepts out of whole cloth just to be extra special.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Al Cowens posted:

Why do we even have gender/sex-separated bathrooms anyway god drat I don't buy the epidemic of it putting women in danger. an outdated relic

yeah p much

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

NihilismNow posted:

Western society decadent and in decline, film at 11.


Only 60% is a shame. That means the remaining 40% may survive to leech on my taxes because socialised medicine pays for their hosed up fetish operations.

imo whatever amount of money is spent on helping transgender people an equal amount should be spent on buying the rest of us nubile slave girls from third world countries every ten years or so

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Pawn 17 posted:

I thought transgenders wanted to be referred to by their gender and not their sex? I would think you'd be offending them using a gender neutral term, but what do I know.

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

people who don't identify as their own gender but aren't trans, they are so super special that they can't be called he nor she

most identify either as simply no gender or as some kind of ambiguous "third" or "non-binary" gender, which as far as I can tell (and I've tried) means basically nothing

please do not conflate actual trans people with this bullshit

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Triamcinolone posted:

now advertising my consulting company specializing in putting signs up with both the stick figure with skirt and without skirt. we also go through every textbook and insert "^or xe" next to every instance of "he or she".

that'll be $100k lol

let's say that it does cost, in fact, $100,000, disregarding that hopefully we never do the "xe" bullshit because that's useless and dumb

$100,000

the US federal budget for 2014 was $3,770,000,000,000

$3,770,000,000,000
$100,000

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

icantfindaname posted:

it's really pathetic watching these forums latching onto weird poo poo like hating transsexuals or skeletons or goku pants in a desperate attempt to be funny and relevant

tbf there's only like two people in here hating on transsexuals

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Cardiovorax posted:

As if you pay taxes.

I already covered that

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Magnitogorsk. posted:

Yeah wealthy people never complain about paying too many taxes

lmao that has nothing to do with what I said

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

BeefThief posted:

What kind of trans exactly?

trans-rex

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

hemale in pain posted:

I'm cool with trans stuff but the non-gender bullshit needs to die.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

ArbitraryC posted:

The writing would look stiff if you did that though.
Chris was climbing a tree. Chris lost Chris' footing and fell. When chris hit the ground chris broke chris' ankle.

Like seriously I dunno why people object to the concept of gender neutral pronouns so much, they'd be a really useful addition to the language. If you're talking about someone but don't want to reveal their identity. If you're talking about a person that you don't know the gender of yet. If you're writing any sort of rules or guidelines. Pretty much anytime you need to use "he or she" type language it'd be convenient to just have something else instead. Putting tumblrites completely aside there's a lot of uses for gender neutral language.

it's not that people object to the concept of gender neutral pronouns it's that "they" and "their" have been in standard use as gender neutral pronouns for hundreds of years and there's no meaningful obstruction to continuing to use them that way

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Musket posted:

My issue with trans is that we have allowed it to be attached to poo poo like Ethnicity and all sorts of stupid poo poo that allows special snowflakes to not melt in the sun. I dont give poo poo about if you wanna change sex or identify as male or female but when you decide to identify as a carebear plushy and demand rights, you demean those who actually deserve class protections such as MTF/FTM transfolk.

Im Trans-ethnic-sober-queerbender-incel. I deserve special laws and bracelets for awareness.


gently caress first world people and their constant need for awareness and acceptance.

it's really really really really really disingenuous and very obviously transphobic for you to lump all of that poo poo in with GID and refer to it as "[your] issue with trans".

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Cardiovorax posted:

Besides, no one outside of tumblr does that poo poo unironically anyway.

yeah exactly, anyone talking about it outside the context of "make fun of tumbler" threads is just using it as a really shallow parody of actual trans people.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

a hole-y ghost posted:

yeah. CIS gay people have fewer rights than trans people, which would probably give some tumblr folks an aneurysm

one day the Confederacy of Independent Systems will be free of its Republican overlords and all free men, gay and straight alike, will rejoice

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Musket posted:

how do you say mlady to a transperson? m'xady? is that right?

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

it's really really really really really disingenuous and very obviously transphobic for you to lump all of that poo poo in with GID and refer to it as "[your] issue with trans".

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Al Cowens posted:

TacUrb plowing through the bullshit

in my heart lies a true SJW

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Fojar38 posted:

isnt this basically just bisexual people

no

ArbitraryC posted:

No, bisexual people are people who'd have sex with either gender/sex, has nothing to do with their own gender/sex.

^

on the sexuality front there is something similar to "non-binary" or "third" genders, which is people who claim to be what they call "pansexual". which just means bisexual, but super-special.

what they claim is that bisexuals are attracted to men and women, and pansexuals are attracted to men and women as well as third, non-binary, and non--gendered people, but since none of those are real things pansexual really just means bisexual.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Fojar38 posted:

that sounds retarded

it's

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

The Taint Reaper posted:

I've noticed that people will treat sex like a religion.

I guess you don't need to have a deity to have faith in something that you cannot physically feel

well sometimes people who aren't on sa or tumbler do get to feel sex

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Beartaco posted:

Gender is a different thing to sex. Sex is what parts you have, gender is what clothes you wear and how you act.

lmao gender is different from sex, but they are not "clothes and how you act". you're thinking of gender roles, retard.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Cardiovorax posted:

there's a lot of relation between the two, tho. we kind of use one to define the other.

we, uh, we don't, if you are a woman an you are your houeshold's bread-winner that does not make you a man, it just means you don't fit into the traditional gender role for a woman

same for drag queens, if they identified as women then they wouldn't be drag queens

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Tevryr posted:

what gets me is how these people are so adamant that men and women are just so designed in a way that their thought processes are so different, yet they talk about how gender is a social construct. sounds a little sexist to me #constructs

no one informed argues that gender is "just" a social construct. it is a part of biology that has serious social implications, which is why I maintain that people claiming to be "third" or "non-binary" gender are full of poo poo.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Tevryr posted:

also all this xim and trenderqueer bullshit and adding extra letters to pronouns is just grasping at straws as a way to sound more important or gain attention

yeah basically

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Meg From Family Guy posted:

Actually retard there are a very very very large number of people who believe that gender is just a social construct and sex is the biology part

Like I said, retard, "no one informed".

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Meg From Family Guy posted:

So all of the 2nd wave and probably some of the first wave feminists weren't informed?

correct, human being bitch

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Meg From Family Guy posted:

Your 3rd-wave feminist retard girlfriend that made you change your av or w/e the gently caress it was because she found Goku saying "I'm a homo I'm gay" extremely problematic is more likely the ineffective know-nothing than all of the 2nd-wave feminists

yeah I know

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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
she told me not to call a woman-woman marriage a lesbian wedding because one or more of them could be "pan or bi" lmfbo, how the gently caress is "pansexual" even a thing

someone who fucks men, women, and fauns

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