Neo Duckberg posted:

D&D.txt right here folks.

meat sweats posted:

Al Sharpton is one of the few living Americans who can claim to have started two race riots. He is the ultimate con artist who doesn't care about killing people to make his buck. You don't have to support him to condemn the police executing Michael Brown and militarizing the city over the last three days. Shame on anyone who is trying to shoehorn their garbage pet issues into this.

Stultus Maximus posted:

What exactly is Al Sharpton doing here? Is he bringing national attention to otherwise ignored events? No. Is he filling an unfilled role in organizing protests? No. The community is fully capable of action, why does a New York celebrity need to show up?

Hot Dog Day #31 posted:

I'm so confused by all the people arguing that a protest movement should only be centered around local leaders. The community and local leaders should be the primary voice and should definitely be at the forefront of the movement but to deny that outside protest leaders are unhelpful or unwanted de-legitimizes movements like Freedom Summer which were hugely successful and which had the backing of the community they came to. To say that national political figures should keep their hands off of a local protest movement ignores the agency of local leaders and activists who might actually want outside intervention and help from other activists.

SirKibbles posted:

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Al so I'll elaborate I don't have a problem with him coming to the protest as an individual but holy hell is he polarizing as gently caress and while calling him a race baiter is racist bullshit he does like the spotlight on him. But honestly that's not a problem limited to Al or Jessie that's an NAACP problem.

Stultus Maximus posted:

I feel that the harm is that the spotlight will shift from the authentic voices of leaders like Antonio French to the appearances of Al Sharpton who is incapable of voicing community concerns in anything but generic terms.

The St. Louis NAACP is composed of community members who can lean on the support of the national organization. Jesse Jackson has commented, eloquently as usual, without drawing the spotlight to himself. Those are correct ways to support community activism.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Everything's changed.

My Imaginary GF posted:

For Brown, he was not even given the chance to integrate into white culture. While the schools had a successful integration program, that's gone away. Now, even kids don't get to know kids outside their race. Trayvon, Renisha, Kenneth were all accepted by their communities, and had a community larger than their block.

Its easier to say nothing has change than to admit change is a glacial and layered process. My argument is that St. Louis is unique in America with its brand of horridness, as it markets itself as a city while it runs itself with the social dynamics of a small town. The implication is that change to St. Louis must be designed solely for St. Louis, and that, while certain policy reforms would have a beneficial impact in the rest of America, those same policies implemented in St. Louis do nothing to address the root cause of its horridness and do nothing to change their implementation of policy.

Nonsense posted:

Is there any real way to prevent yourself from being kettled by police?

D_I posted:

This stream is awesome but the chat is all racist shitheads.

Arrgytehpirate posted:

Not that they have a large say, but Anon went from asking protesters to not be violent to calling it a revolution. God I hope people don't actually start fighting back they'd get slaughtered.

nopantsjack posted:

Well, if you let the IDF teach your police "supression" tactics don't be surprised when your country turns into the West Bank.

Neo Duckberg posted:

Made it to the action. At QT right now. Tear gs and flash bangs used a lot. I'm next to KSDK

Zeitgueist posted:

Haha nope.

This is honestly tamer than the 60's, even if the tech is newer.

Zeitgueist posted:

https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/499755251625242624/photo/1

holy poo poo

unwantedplatypus posted:

What about the other 60%?

SedanChair posted:

Two teens in the other room facebooking away so out of curiosity I asked "hey either of you kids hear about ferguson or mike brown"

"who"

"a black kid in missouri got shot by the police"

"another one? oh dang"

Teddybear posted:

He was considered as a possible VP nominee.

Was.

TubeStank posted:

I, for one, can't see why a white dude going into a riot that's occurring due to racial issues would be a bad idea.

What the gently caress were you thinking??

jrodefeld posted:

You are absolutely right. The State and private sector are more and more indistinguishable due to State privilege and corporate special interest lobbying. But small businesses still exist in this country. Entrepreneurs still make a go of it despite the legal obstacles placed in their path.

But you should know by now that, as an anarchist, I oppose the existence of the State and I would favor every effort to reduce its size, influence, and power.

But I would indeed not favor any sort of "privatization" that involves government grants, subsidies and special favors. The last thing we want or need is a military contractor, paid with tax dollars, substituting for local police. We don't need Blackwater policing our small towns. That is not privatization. That is just another example of State police protection, albeit one that benefits a certain special interest.

What I want is for the State to remove itself from the business of police protection. Then permit the people who actually live in those communities to decide what they should do for their collective defense. Then they should choose to pay for a contractor or defense company of their choosing. If the State were involved in any way in this decision, or artificially limited the choices available to that community, I would consider this NOT a free market and not representative of what I am proposing.

Neo Duckberg posted:

Neo Duckberg posted:

Tonight I will dump pictures. I will be on the other side of the police line hopefully.