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the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Also his father will probably never again work in the industry.

"Wait, wasn't your son the kid that complained about never getting laid and then killed a bunch of people out of jealousy? Umm yea we'll call you back"

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the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Also his dad had last made a documentary about finding god which is kinda funny in some way. Ironic? Tragic? Or just unsurprising

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:

it was the step-dad that worked in the movies

No it was his biological father.

http://www.rodgerpictures.com/#!/index

His biological mother was a small time actress and his stepmother is another small time actress.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

ilikedirt posted:

like dam i would nut all over his lips and hed keep suckin and ide nut AGAIN and its squirt in his eye

and by nuttin on his gface hed realize the error of his way,,,, hed realize hes gay forever and he would have never kilt those ppl.,,, my cum would save lives,,,,,

really makes u think

That really did make me think, thanks

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Costello Jello posted:

I remember when his manifesto came out, and I was really busy, but I just wanted to peek at it, and then I couldn't put it down and just spent the rest of the afternoon getting my mind blown with levels of patheticness that I never dreamed were possible.

The amount of cringe-laughing this guy produced, holy poo poo. Larry David will never make another season of Curb Your Enthusiasm now. "It's over. The genre is finished. There's nowhere left to go now."

wait holy poo poo he wrote a 141 page manifesto. reading now, for as long as i can stand. this kid was one humorless motherfucker

http://abclocal.go.com/three/kabc/kabc/My-Twisted-World.pdf if anyone cares

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
actually no one has read all this poo poo wtf. the chapter headings are "8 years old" "9 years old" etc

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

When the time came, I decided to get up at 4:00 a.m. to prepare. To my dismay, I noticed that my father set an alarm on the front door. I was planning to run away at 6:00 a.m., when the garbage truck arrived, because the noise from the truck would mask any noise I make while leaving. The alarm, however, would definitely alert father and Soumaya. I got too nervous and abandoned that idea. Instead, I waited until everyone woke up and had breakfast. My plan was ruined by the alarm, and I had
to come up with a new plan fast! I had little time left. I innocently told father I wanted to go on a small walk before the departure, and as soon as I exited the front door, I bolted at full speed. It was hasty, butI had to do something. I didn’t think father would catch on to my deception so quickly... After only
clearing one block, I looked behind my shoulder and saw father chasing after me. All of my hope collapsed then and there, and I lost all of the fight in me. I stopped running and put my head down in defeat. Soumaya came in the car minutes later, and they both took me home. The plan failed. I was going to Morocco.

lol

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Jack Gladney posted:

Between that and listening to his sister gently caress that dude, the kid had a really bad history with doors. No surprise one defeated him in the end.

Did he ever write anything about jerking off? He was such a narcissist he'd probably believe he invented it.

haven't seen anything yet but here's an example of how upfront he was about his narcissism. what a guy.

quote:

I found out that my mother was actually dating Jack, the wealthy man who owned the Malibu beach house. I always thought he was only her friend. My mother never told me or my sister about any men that she dated. She always kept that strictly private. I hadn’t even met Jack yet. He was worth well over $500 million, and he owned other
mansions in Bel Air and Beverly Hills. When I found out about this, I started to harbor the hope that my mother will get married to this man, and I will be part of a rich family. That will definitely be a way out of my miserable and insignificant life. Money would solve everything. I started to frequently ask my mother to seek marriage with this man, or any wealthy man for that matter. She always adamantly refused, and demanded that I stopped talking about it. She told me that she never wanted to get married again after her experience with my father. I told her that she should sacrifice her well-being for the sake of my happiness, but this only offended her further.
pasting from PDF screws up formatting so i have to redo it and it's still not perfect. will post jack quotes if found

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
jack quotes incoming-

quote:


I spent New Year’s Eve alone and miserable, just like the previous year. And the year before that, for that matter. It was the last day my WoW account was active, and I logged onto WoW just for that occasion. I angrily had arguments with random people online who I saw bragging about their girlfriends. I spewed out all of my hatred towards them, but they were only amused. It was a very aggravating experience, and it made me glad that I cancelled my WoW account. There was nowhere I could hide anymore.

Time was ticking, and a New Year was just beginning. I concluded that I had to put more effort into making better use of my time. I made a vow on New Year’s Day that I wouldn’t masturbate until I did something to successfully get one step further in life. Having a high sex drive, I usually masturbated at least every other day. I always fantasized about sex... and the fact that I was unable to have sex made me even more obsessed with it. To stop masturbating for more than three days was a big deal. I lasted seven days. On the seventh day my sexual urges became too overwhelming. My whole body was enveloped in it. I thought about girls every single second, and not having a girl to have sex with was unbearable. I could not even function anymore, so I had to break my commitment. The masturbation session I had after that seven-
day dry spell was astounding. I did my usual fantasizing about having sex with a beautiful, tall blonde-haired girl; but this time I intensified it a lot, and made up a whole story in my mind just to make the experience seem more real. If only it could be real. Some men get to live that fantasy, whereas I could only dream of it. Life is not fair.

lol

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
once he's about 19 and gets to Isla Vista it's not so funny anymore. read it yourselves, i'm not posting, dude gets dark. it's only funny when he cries about every little thing up to the age of 17.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
actually..

quote:

I felt a surge of confidence as I ascended the flight of stairs that led up to the main campus. For my first class, which was history, I had to cross the iconic bridge to the west campus. I tried to feel as confident and sure of myself as possible, thinking that all of the girls I passed were attracted to my appearance. They should be. I spent a lot of time choosing out that shirt and doing my hair.
he gay yo

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
man..

quote:

By the month of April, I had driven to Arizona three more times, making a total of four trips to Arizona in my lifetime, just to buy lottery tickets out of intense desperation, believing it to be my only hope of attaining the life I desire, the life I know I’m worthy of. I kept dreaming of the life I would have
once I won; the beautiful blonde girlfriend, the luxurious mansion with a magnificent view, all of the exotic cars I would drive to impress girls. It gave me hope. It gave me something to live for. That hope was shattered after each attempt. None of the tickets I bought on those trips fulfilled my dreams. The reason I kept going, even after I didn’t win, was because I truly believed I was supposed to win. I wanted to believe it because I wanted something to live for. I needed to have hope. I knew that if I lost all of my hope, I would have nothing to live for but revenge. Any chance of having a happy life would be doomed.

Also so far it seems that he actually didn't have a single thing against his 2 roomates that he killed, they were just easy targets. I'm not done reading though. His two earlier hispanic roomates were dicks to him and he didn't do anything to them.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Moridin920 posted:

lol why the gently caress did he drive to Arizona to get lottery tickets didn't that fool know you can get them in CA, too?

California didn't have Powerball, only Mega Millions at the time. Powerball had a huge jackpot, like 500 million. It was his destiny to win

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Oh he got two new roomates again.

quote:

Two new housemates moved into my apartment for the Autumn semester. They were two foreign Asian students who attended UCSB. These were the biggest nerds I had ever seen, and they were both very ugly with annoying voices. My last two housemates, Chris and Jon, were nerds as well, but at least they were friendly and pleasant. These two new ones were utterly repulsive, and one of them had a very rebellious demeanor about him. He went out of his way to start arguments with me whenever I raised the issue of the noise he made. Hell, even living with Spencer was more pleasant than these two idiots. I knew that when the Day of Retribution came, I would have to kill my housemates to get them out of the way. If they were pleasant to live with, I would regret having to kill them, but due to their behavior I now had no regrets about such a prospect. In fact, I’d even enjoy stabbing them both to death while they slept.
well then.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

ginealgo posted:

Seriously - am i the only one who feels sorry for this kid? I've never met anyone half as screwed up as this without some sort of really depressingly traumatizing past, and i doubt this case is any different.

i don't know if i feel sorry for him but i am trying to understand him. pity is not a constructive feeling. the one thing i see is that his family and friends reached out to him time and time again but he refused all help or was not able to take it. i don't understand what his issue was though and why it consumed him to the degree that it did. i guess he didn't know either. not having sex is not the end of the world for most people, but it was the final battleground for him that he staked everything on (and at the same time rarely made an effort to even speak to women).

his early teen years were pretty funny though. he was handed everything he wanted and needed and still managed to cry for hours over something.

not snarky posted:

the brain is pretty complex :wth:

reductionism explains nothing and basically says nothing. maybe "people are pretty complex" is at least an understandable statement. as if there were a switch in his head that could have been flipped, and we just don't know which one it is yet. yea right.

the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Aug 24, 2014

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

not snarky posted:

it could be, though.

maybe, but i think usually people are just the way they are, and there's not much anyone can do to change them except to disable them somehow (lobotomy, drugs, etc). their change has to come from within them. but trying to externally change someone almost always just adds more "fuel to the fire". or who knows, maybe in the future we can genetically engineer everyone to be well adjusted and content.

Gaunab posted:

Honestly he was probably gay, couldn't come to terms with it and took it out on the world

he didn't once mention being attracted to men in his manifesto. probably more complicated than this, although there's something to it. he expected (required) women to come to him, and they didn't. like he was a little female himself. idk.

the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 24, 2014

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Moridin920 posted:

totally untrue, btw

people as a rule are extremely susceptible to manipulation by outside forces

i agree, i more meant when someone is in the kind of downward spiral that rodgers was in. how was anyone going to snap him out of that. that had to come from him, and he just ended up lashing out even further. what's the difference between him and someone who says therapy or something else cured their depression etc? he refused all help. what was anyone supposed to do? he resisted all manipulation as well.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
people are susceptible to manipulation when they think it will get them what they want. what outside forces were going to give him the insight into how to get a girl to like him? he had to figure that out on his own and he didn't, if that was what he wanted so bad. i just don't understand why he staked everything on it. what a guy.

i also skipped laaarge parts of his manifesto lol

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Jack Gladney posted:

Seems like he probably had diagnosable narcissism, at least. Especially that bit about the housemate going out of his way to be insolent only when Roger confronted him about something. How else would a reasonable person respond?

and even further than that, he had problems only a rich hollywood-connected kid could have. he was such a product of his environment. like an exception that proves the rule of that whole LA hollywood subculture. the narcisstic outlier, but at the same time, doing it better and purer than any one else in the same environment could hope to achieve. too much? i think that's onto something.

like, his actions and behavior are totally alien to me. that could never happen around where i live. the problems are totally different here. just as the problems are different in every place and environment.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

DrManiac posted:

Even reading his manifesto it seems like his parents did all they could to help him (made him get some job, therapy, ect) and their other kids turned out all right so I doubt this. In fact nobody really did anything to elliot except lightly rib him for acting spergy or be happy around him. The only time he wrote about someone getting at him in his manifesto was when he was trying to murder girls at a party by pushing them off the roof.

he wrote about a bunch of other incidents. kids he knew from high school taunting him from passing cars, his first roomates in college teasing him relentlessly about being a virgin. there's more too. and the one good friend he seemed to have (James) he alienated by talking incessantly about how he wanted to kill everyone who wronged him.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Pornographic Memory posted:

to be honest it seems unlikely he was secretly gay or had some unknown trauma because look at all the poo poo he wrote about his pathetic life, you really think there could be something more shameful to him than crying over his inability to throw orange juice on the black sexhaver or all the tantrums hes thrown or his weird fantasies of female genocide? i wont pretend to know what exactly his problem wasbut i have a hard time imagining there was anything he held back from his "manifesto" which was just a meticulous catalogue of his boring rear end pathetic life and all his many, many self-inflicted humiliations

yea same.

he's a product of his environment. the embodied ugly underbelly of the little subculture he was apart of. that's how it makes more sense. the one who took it all a little too seriously.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Jack Gladney posted:

That same friend later said that he had never heard Roger speak more than a single sentence at once, that what shocked him most about that crazy youtube video was that Roger had never said so many words at the same time before. There was certainly something way hosed with him long before he started shooting, but not necessarily anything bad that had happened to him.

Did anyone ever learn how a world-class fucko like him got a gun in the first place? Lol if he stole it from his dad.

I think the friend was just trying to get away from being blamed somehow for not coming forward with anything elliott told him. in the manifesto lots of at-length conversations were detailed. he wouldn't make that up.

and he bought his first handgun for 700 dollars, apparently easily.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

ginealgo posted:

pics of her?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=elliot+rodger%27s+sister

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
man his mother looks the same age, or younger, than his sister.

edit never mind thats someone else. his mother looks like an older malaysian woman, nothing to see here.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

DrManiac posted:

I would jo at her door if you know what I mean.


Yea I do know what you mean

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

so I'm guessing the standard protocol for the daughter, at least, would be to change her name? I guess Rodger is a common enough last name but gently caress being associated with this shithead.


Or leave the country cause man things will never be the same here for them

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
but he wanted a random blonde sorority girl on the street to be overpowered by his magnificence and take him home.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
that only happens when a penis enters a mans butthole

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
no, he crashed it into the back of a jeep on a busy LA street. probably totalled yes

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
it's true

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Zeno-25 posted:

IIRC he accidentally shot himself in the head while attempting to reload in the middle of his rampage

His death was like his life, a self-inflicted pussy fuckup

nah he planned to kill himself. come on at least give him one thing.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
His patheticness was his mental illness, he struggled with that, sure.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Lol elliott was so easily trollable. Like he existed in order to be trolled. He would have led a funnier existence if people saw him kick cry and scream whenever he saw a girl make out with a guy he found unworthy, for the rest of his life, instead of shooting a bunch of people.

Like imagine 40 year old elliott at some picturesque sidewalk cafe enjoying whatever gay lunch he always gets, and some attractive yuppie couple starts making out next to him. Suddenly elliott lets out an impotent Arrgghhh! and he runs arms flailing down the street crying. Another lunch ruined! Third time this week!

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the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

General Bort posted:

Does he ever mention suicide in his manifesto?

Yes he said he wanted to end his rampage by shooting himself with two handguns at once for some reason.

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