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It gets dumber as it goes on and has no ending because one of the companies that co-owned it tried to sue the other company. I guess it's still watchable though.
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I was gonna watch Megazone 23 next. should I just move to that one or are they both bad?
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Sep 2, 2014 20:37
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Haven't seen it in years and the only thing I can remember about it is it had a guy on a bike, so pot luck, I guess?
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Sep 2, 2014 20:58
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Megazone 23 is rad. Part I is good, Part II is really good, Part III is just okay.
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Sep 3, 2014 12:33
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Synonamess Botch posted:Sure but I mean my point is that the movie as it stands is far from nonsensical, regardless of what is omitted from the manga. The movie has a plot but I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to really understand it after one watch. For me I watched Akira the first time and basically thought "That was cool! What the hell happened?" It makes more sense with repeat viewings, but if someone isn't interested in doing that I'm totally sympathetic.
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Sep 4, 2014 12:47
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Being complex and being nonsensical is not the same thing. However, being the former isn't always a good thing and the latter isn't always a bad thing.
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Sep 4, 2014 13:04
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Sakurazuka posted:Cyber City Oedo is the only good cyberpunk anime, and only if you watch the dub. This can't be said enough. The English dub is rad as hell, because every other word is a four-letter swear. And it's just an all around cool show, because Yoshiaki Kawajiri is a guy who knows how to make b-movie anime better than just about anybody else.
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Sep 4, 2014 14:44
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How the gently caress did you guys not understand Akira. . .
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Sep 4, 2014 18:08
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Though i guess tons of dummys also watched NGE religiously without ever wrapping their heads around what was going on.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:10
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:How the gently caress did you guys not understand Akira. . . I have an IQ of 163, I understood what was going on at all points during the movie, but I recognized that people of lesser intelligence would not and judged the movie negatively because of that.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:43
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:How the gently caress did you guys not understand Akira. . . I dunno, I watched it the first time when I was 13 or something. Maybe I'd catch the whole thing in one go if I could watch it fresh now, but I can't.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:48
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LaTex Fetish posted:I have an IQ of 163, I understood what was going on at all points during the movie, but I recognized that people of lesser intelligence would not and judged the movie negatively because of that. How thoughtful of you.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:00
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Great Rumbler posted:This can't be said enough. The English dub is rad as hell, because every other word is a four-letter swear. And it's just an all around cool show, because Yoshiaki Kawajiri is a guy who knows how to make b-movie anime better than just about anybody else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWqzumh8bpY  Kawajiri was legit the best schlock anime director of the 90's (though a couple of his movies got a bit rapey at times), it's a shame he hasn't directed anything since that weird Highlander anime move in like 2007. Ninja Scroll actually made one of my friends feel physically ill when we first watched it in the mid-90's, my response was 'man, you should totally watch this' and made him watch Genocyber.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:14
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Akira is pretty lame from a story perspective tbh since it wasnt finished at the time and thats Otomo's fault and no one else's since he was still writing the dang thing. But it looks really cool and good (Ohira & Okiura ftw) and it's probably the best of its kind and its time.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:15
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Genocyber seriously owns and I will defend it to the grave
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Sep 4, 2014 22:54
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Genocyber seriously owns and I will defend it to the grave Man, I just couldn't with Genocyber, and I generally love trashy OVAs from that period. Even the English dub couldn't mask the pain I felt every single second that I watched.
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Sep 4, 2014 23:49
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It makes absolutely no sense and both the animation and narrative are barely scotch-taped together but it looks cool as hell and has a lot of absolute batshit insanity.
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Sep 5, 2014 00:09
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That part with the kids getting shredded by miniguns was pretty legit, I'll give it that.
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Sep 5, 2014 01:06
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:How the gently caress did you guys not understand Akira. . . I wouldn't say people have trouble understanding it. It's been a while since I saw it but I definitely remember it feeling like stuff was just happening because it looks cool. There was a bunch of characters and plot elements that seemed important that just kind of drop off. Then a typical anime ending where poo poo goes completely crazy. It doesn't take a genius to follow the main plot but it's not a well put together story.
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Sep 5, 2014 10:04
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 lmaowow I gotta check this one out, couldn't stop laughing and i'm at work
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Sep 5, 2014 20:16
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LaTex Fetish posted:
More of the same can be found in the delightfully trashy Angel Cop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpwJbLLivU
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Sep 5, 2014 21:20
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What is confusing about the plot of Akira?
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Sep 5, 2014 21:21
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One time there was a little telekenetic kid who accidentally blew up. Our friend Kaneda is a juvenile delinquent and he has a wussy little friend. It turns out his wussy little friend went to telekenesis preschool too a long time ago and he gets big psychic powers. Well, it turns out that using his psychic powers was too hard and he turns into a big baby, and the government shoots at him. He starts to blow up and the other psychic toddlers save everyone.
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Sep 5, 2014 21:24
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Genocyber seriously owns and I will defend it to the grave The first episode of Genocyber is actually seriously good, it's creepy, surreal and depressing, it uses techniques you don't often see in anime, like cutting to live action for some bits. Episodes 2 and 3 are okay gorefest trash. Four and five don't exist. For a laugh check out the Genocyber manga that was canned after one volume (if not less), it's the the the most generic shounen costume hero crap ever only with super gore. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 5, 2014 |
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Sep 5, 2014 22:13
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:One time there was a little telekenetic kid who accidentally blew up. Our friend Kaneda is a juvenile delinquent and he has a wussy little friend. It turns out his wussy little friend went to telekenesis preschool too a long time ago and he gets big psychic powers. Well, it turns out that using his psychic powers was too hard and he turns into a big baby, and the government shoots at him. He starts to blow up and the other psychic toddlers save everyone. This is about right. The basic issue that people who say Akira was confusing have, is that they want to disentangle the mess of pseudoscience, pseudophilosophy and nationalist politics that is the show's explanation for HOW they stop Tetsuo at the end. It isn't worth it.
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Great Rumbler posted:More of the same can be found in the delightfully trashy Angel Cop:
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Butt Ghost posted:I thought this was one of those "abridged" things before I remembered 90's voice acting. In this age of digital inking and high gloss production values, I think we could all do with more 80s OVAs in our lives.
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Sakurazuka posted:The first episode of Genocyber is actually seriously good, it's creepy, surreal and depressing, it uses techniques you don't often see in anime, like cutting to live action for some bits. Episodes 2 and 3 are okay gorefest trash. Four and five don't exist. Your opinions are good. pro click
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darealkooky posted:i thought flcl was about a kid getting his first boner no it was about gainax having money again and spending it on making in-joke filled music videos for their favourite band you've probably never heard of
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Ernie Muppari posted:no it was about gainax having money again and spending it on making in-joke filled music videos for their favourite band you've probably never heard of it's a really good band though
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Ernie Muppari posted:no it was about gainax having money again and spending it on making in-joke filled music videos for their favourite band you've probably never heard of icantfindaname posted:it's a really good band though For further reading, please see in-depth treatise "Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer."
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Fangz posted:The Akira manga is much longer, more complex story wise, and also is more spelled out in terms of what is happening. I would recommend reading it. That's wrong though. It took me a while to get the ending, but it's not nationalistic or anti-american: some of the characters the manga depict in a best light are Americans (the scientists). It anti-army, and probably a bit anti-japan. The ending is a (clumsy for Otohmo, considering the rest of the book) metaphor for the kids trying to build a new future from the ashes of the old, trying to do it without the interference of the old generation. The entire first half of the manga is deeply critical of Japan, and is almost dystopic in many ways. The youth are shown to be violent and wild, but the adults are shown in a really bad light too, and it's implied pretty strongly that those things are related. Also, way to miss all of Kaneda's character development.
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's wrong though. It took me a while to get the ending, but it's not nationalistic or anti-american: some of the characters the manga depict in a best light are Americans (the scientists). It anti-army, and probably a bit anti-japan. The ending is a (clumsy for Otohmo, considering the rest of the book) metaphor for the kids trying to build a new future from the ashes of the old, trying to do it without the interference of the old generation. The entire first half of the manga is deeply critical of Japan, and is almost dystopic in many ways. The youth are shown to be violent and wild, but the adults are shown in a really bad light too, and it's implied pretty strongly that those things are related. Most of Otomo's stuff is critical of the government and the nationalist bullshit members of it use to justify whatever lovely reactionary policy (that'll, purely by chance I'm sure, direct money into their pockets) they want to implement. His stuff tends to be critical of the US for many of the same reasons, but tends to focus on the way that the US government encouraged the assholes in power in Japan to engage in their terrible bullshit because that helped achieve some of the US's own imperialistic goals. Pretty much everything Otomo does is a lot easier to understand when you remember that he's part of that second generation of comic artists who started their careers in the early 70s, hot on the heels of widespread student protests getting put down by police until the only people still doing anything were actual honest-to-god communist terrorists, and then you have the oil-crisis in the early 70s causing another massive recession.
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I'm a delinquent! That's what's in my heart. I'll take on any one of you!
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Sakurazuka posted:The first episode of Genocyber is actually seriously good, it's creepy, surreal and depressing, it uses techniques you don't often see in anime, like cutting to live action for some bits. Episodes 2 and 3 are okay gorefest trash. Four and five don't exist. That's basically my opinion, tho I will say watching the (dubbed) intro to episode 4 is worth it. The guy voicing the old dude is straddling the line between unwatchably bad and hilariously bad.
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LaTex Fetish posted:yep, watched the first episode of bubblegum crisis last night. Just to be sure you're watching the original Bubblegum Crisis and not the Bubblegum Crisis 2040 anime that got made a decade later? I enjoyed watching the original BGC and the cyberpunk world it established. Just don't watch Bubblegum Crash.
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Revolver Bunker posted:Just to be sure you're watching the original Bubblegum Crisis and not the Bubblegum Crisis 2040 anime that got made a decade later? I enjoyed watching the original BGC and the cyberpunk world it established. Just don't watch Bubblegum Crash. the one I'm watching was made in 1987
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OP you should give Redline a shot:
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Tetsuo becoming a giant death baby at the end of Akira worked as a really good creepy parallel to the atomic bomb to my understanding (I had no idea how an atomic bomb worked at the time) and could work fairly well as a stand-in for the terror people experienced at beholding its destructiveness.
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