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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Shasta Orange Soda posted:

still probably better than associating with mmo weirdos

*masturbates sadly to catholic iriquois*

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Moose King
Nov 5, 2009

THS posted:

i like to play civ 5 on the second lowest difficulty and play the build a pretty empire game then quit when i reach industrialization

This, but instead of quitting I build loads of artillery, meticuloulsy surround enemy civs, and turn every one of those dirt-farming still-medieval cities into smoldering craters.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Decrepus posted:

I played Civ 5 for hours with my friends on release day. We made it to turn 4.

noice

gorki
Aug 9, 2014

Decrepus posted:

I played Civ 5 for hours with my friends on release day. We made it to turn 4.

I heard Civ 4 and Civ 5 weren't playable for months after release

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
Civ is pretty dull even the first go-round, let alone the second when you realize you really saw everything the game has to offer the first time and that was it, but it's still miles better than GalCiv

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




gorki posted:

I heard Civ 4 and Civ 5 weren't playable for months after release

True. Civ 4 had a crippling memory leak and Civ 5 was missing a bunch of features such as "stuff to do" and "fun."

72o
Dec 14, 2007

gorki posted:

I heard Civ 4 and Civ 5 weren't playable for months after release

I think Civ 5 was pretty lovely at launch (didn't play it then), but the expansions fixed a ton of stuff.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Infidel Castro posted:

True. Civ 4 had a crippling memory leak and Civ 5 was missing a bunch of features such as "stuff to do" and "fun."

Still waiting on the patch for 5

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

Paradox games are neat in theory but then most of the time you're just fast forwarding til some dumb bullshit happens

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

just liek real life

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

BKPR posted:

Paradox games are neat in theory but then most of the time you're just fast forwarding til some dumb bullshit happens

fifteen hours of holy war cool down so I can form rome and finally get round to playing euiv

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

72o posted:

I think Civ 5 was pretty lovely at launch (didn't play it then), but the expansions fixed a ton of stuff.

Now I can invade a nation and kill millions under flimsy pretenses, just to loot their art. Every time I play, the artwork I'll leave in my palace is always my favorite piece out of the things I stole.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
ZORK: better

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Luvcow posted:

:allears: you sound like an edgy badass

its the worst paradox series and eu4 manages to be nearly as bad as release hoi3

hoi3 was broken and tedious, eu4 is just boring and empty

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

i like the idea of someone not wanting to play paradox games being "edgy"

like i own a bunch of them but come on

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib
civ 2 was the best civ game, because it was in the heady days of modding when all you needed was a basic knowledge of the scripting language within the game (that they included in the freaking manual for the second-to-last version) and you could create an arcade version of the battle of the atlantic, or play through settling mars, or world war: 1979, or the post-apocalyptic one with dinosaurs, terminators, and bikers

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
It doesn't take advanced AI for Isabella to roll into your spearman defended cities with tanks

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
One time in red alert 2 everyone had nukes ready for launch and when someone went ahead and launched their nuke everyone just immediately launched theirs in anticipation of being the target

One guy got 3 nukes on his base

Mr.Acula
May 10, 2009

Billions and billions of fat clouds

red alert 2 owns

civ 5 also owns if youre playing it lan with friends like a board game

gorki
Aug 9, 2014

Effectronica posted:

civ 2 was the best civ game, because it was in the heady days of modding when all you needed was a basic knowledge of the scripting language within the game (that they included in the freaking manual for the second-to-last version) and you could create an arcade version of the battle of the atlantic, or play through settling mars, or world war: 1979, or the post-apocalyptic one with dinosaurs, terminators, and bikers

it is almost as old as me and i still find myself playing it maybe a couple of times a year. same with Sim City 4. those games have serious longevity

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Firaxis and Blizzard are pretty much the only devs left making actual expansion packs.

Luvcow
Jul 1, 2007

One day nearer spring

Fog Tripper posted:

ZORK: better

My friend had that on his c64, I had Adventure on my 2600

Then we got a PC clone and I got Ultima 1 and Might and Magic 1 in glorious monochrome

Luvcow
Jul 1, 2007

One day nearer spring

SickZip posted:

its the worst paradox series and eu4 manages to be nearly as bad as release hoi3

hoi3 was broken and tedious, eu4 is just boring and empty

Tbf I have no idea what those games are and I was just being a big baby bc you said this:

SickZip posted:

civ v is a bad game for idiots

tough day :(

ColdReaches
Oct 12, 2013

Place : Detroit
Date : 4031 A.D.

72o posted:

I'm just thinking how cool this franchise would be in 20 years when we have actual artificial intelligence deciding what Napoleon is gonna do next.

There are no fun games only death.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

dr.acula posted:

red alert 2 owns

civ 5 also owns if youre playing it lan with friends like a board game

It's overcomplicated with poo poo that's mostly boring and pointless or actively detracts from multiplayer, like whole civs whose bonuses only kick in once any remotely competent player's gotten a steamroller of death going, and bad fundamentals like how once someone's really started getting a lead they can trivially steamroll everyone to keep winning and there's not any realistic chance for a clever last-minute save by a player who had a weak start, or IOW any reason to keep playing the last half to 2/3 of the game

it's bad

ra2 was fine tho, at least IIRC from when I was 15 or whatever

Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Sep 3, 2014

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



look at william's loving shoes lmao

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

plz dont shoe shame

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

rip lord william, tripped down the stairs on his foot doily

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

gggiiimmmppp posted:

look at william's loving shoes lmao



Well what do you wear to round out your leggings/fur coat/puffy pirate shorts ensemble

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 25, 2007

gggiiimmmppp posted:

look at william's loving shoes lmao



what season do you wear this in?

Luvcow
Jul 1, 2007

One day nearer spring


What the...

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
I've never played vanilla Civ 5 but it seems kind of empty.

I feel kind of ashamed to admit that I play on chieftan but how else am I going to get all the wonders? Too bad playing that low ensures that you'll automatically get a culture victory by doing nothing.

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

Celery Face posted:

I've never played vanilla Civ 5 but it seems kind of empty.

I feel kind of ashamed to admit that I play on chieftan but how else am I going to get all the wonders? Too bad playing that low ensures that you'll automatically get a culture victory by doing nothing.

You can turn victory types off in the setup options

I turn em all off except science and domination victories. you're either gonna let me launch my rocket ship or get brutally insanely murdered.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
OP is trolling you can tell by the lies in the title, about civ 5 being fun

Zealot4223
Sep 3, 2014
Yeah, it's really fun. I just wished the AI for the combat was a bit smarter. It's almost unnecessary to get any of the combat perks since the AI isn't very smart.

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
civ5 used to be fun.

but recently no games at all appeal to me. the only game i ever play now (maybe once in two weeks) is ss13. everything else just feels boring and hollow and done before. i've resorted to reading books on my mac now

i must be a broken human being

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

Lichy posted:

civ5 used to be fun.

but recently no games at all appeal to me. the only game i ever play now (maybe once in two weeks) is ss13. everything else just feels boring and hollow and done before. i've resorted to reading books on my mac now

i must be a broken human being

reading books on a computer is really bad for your eyes

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008
When I play civ 5 with my friends it's fun, except for the one mother fucker who takes six times longer than everyone else to end his turn.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Civ 5 is shittier in every single way to Civ 4: BTS except for hexes. Port hexes to BTS and it'd be a far better game.

gently caress universal happiness, gently caress no-multiplayer animation (ever fight an MP war in the modern age with units teleporting for screens?), gently caress punishing the player for building roads and no longer requiring them for trade, gently caress the lovely AI (Does the game still unescorted generals out to try to stop your armies?), gently caress the way they did tech trading, gently caress the fact they ripped out so many features...

Civ 5 is massively overrated by people who both don't remember Civ 4:BTS well and are easily impressed by pretty graphics. Again the hex thing is neat, and I really like that, but the computer can't use it for poo poo and multiplayer blows, so it's moot even as a straight up war game.

Oh yeah, gently caress it's dumb tech tree, too. If anyone here played Civ V and missed Civ IV, go buy it on a Steam sale sometime and you will never go back. Graphically it's not even that bad and it's not a dumbed down baby's first Civ game.

gorki posted:

I heard Civ 4 and Civ 5 weren't playable for months after release

Vanilla Civ 4 was a million times better than Vanilla Civ 5 despite the bugs. BTS is the best version of Civ out there though.

I should note the things I'm complaining about aren't even nit picks.. the roads thing is inverse logic where roads = cost money, while all previous games were roads = make money.. yeah roads have maintenance costs but ultimately enhance trade.. blocking trade routes was a huge part of the past games, and also, as your empire gets more and more roads and little villages pop up it starts to look like a nation.. You can be in year 2050 in Civ 5 and you still look like you're managing a tiny rear end wasteland state. It sucks and removes so much strategy.

Where as global happiness has the effect of making your empire crippling depressed for winning wars unless you murder every city you can.. previously with it being regional you could have problem cities and have to deal with them, but your whole empire wouldn't go "What, you took territory and didn't kill everyone? We loving hate life now."

I hate Civ V more every time I think about it.

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Sep 3, 2014

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TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

the graphics are rly pretty

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