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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Just loving fire him. Even if the suspension isn't or can't be raised. Even if he gets picked up by some other team and remains in the league. I don't give a poo poo. Fire him.

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Reminder that last night after the 49ers game, Bayless tweeted that he was impressed with the Cowboys performance and already thinks they'll take the division.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Parmesan Basil posted:

gently caress the Ravens real loving hard. Suggs is still on the team. Ray Lewis has a loving statue that shoots loving fire. Ray Rice is still on the team. Just drop that whole loving organization into the loving ocean already. I don't know how you can cheer for them in good conscience.

Maybe now you people will realize why those of us here love Joe Flacco.

It isn't ironic. It isn't sarcasm. Forget the fact that he is a non-Dilfer QB, forget that he's a Super Bowl MVP and has amazing playoffs. Joe Flacco never leaves his basement unless it's for football or McDonalds. Joe Flacco stays the gently caress out of trouble. And he's the best for that alone.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


@DanWetzel: Txt'ing w/ team officials around NFL, they predict Ravens will cut Ray Rice. "Have to." Not sure anyone would pick him up

Please please please

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


@JasonLaCanfora
On the topic of what NFL had access to, spokesman says: "That is outside our purview."

:laffo:

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


The Puppy Bowl posted:

How are the Ravens? Why is it their job to fill in for our corrupt lovely legal system? I really don't like the idea of the league suspending anyone for issues that don't directly relate to football but wouldn't mind adding to Rice's suspension due to the nothing of a punishment he received.

Did you just miss the parts where the team either did or didn't see the video, definitely heard Rice describe exactly what happened, and paraded around supporting and defending him even when people weren't talking about the situation, including tweeting the wife's forced apology for getting knocked out? Like, the team isn't even in the top 2 worst involved in this situation, but that doesn't mean they look good here either.

To be fair, nobody looks good here. Not the fans, not the team, not the league.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Garbo posted:

Adam Schefter is on EPSN right now. Still steaming loving mad, but also reporting that cutting Ray Rice would save the Ravens 4 million in cap space this year so, according to him, that excuse is out of the window.

The only positive from this whole situation is it's given me a lot more respect for Schefter, verbal slipup ("black eye on the league") aside.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ray Rice is no longer on the Ravens. gently caress it, this season's already a success.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


@adbrandt
Ray Rice is NOT entitled to 2014 salary as a vested veteran. Must be on 53-man roster at season start; he was on the suspended list.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Chichevache posted:

I might have misheard, but the old white dude (don't know his name) was saying that the press conferences were Janay's idea. :wtf:

He said it was Rice's idea (likely meant Ray's), and that the Ravens didn't want the press conference to happen (which at the time I think was true, they were hoping to brush the situation under the rug, and only after the idiocy of the conferences happened did they double down in defense of him)

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Teddybear posted:

Guys. I think we're nearly there. The NFL is now rapidly approaching being as corrupt and lovely as FIFA. Soon, American football and association football will join hand in hand, exploiting the young and turning a blind eye to hideous violence together.

Ah, young love.

I don't know, they still haven't conned a country into paying $300 million for the building of a stadium that will only be used for 4 games and then never again.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ray Lewis time

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


"I'm disappointed...A man should never, ever put his hands on a woman. Bottom line."

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Lewis says he just got done talking with Steve Bisciotti. Steve said Rice will never play for the Ravens again. No chance of him being brought back ever.

Yeah, his career's likely over.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ray Lewis genuinely handled that a lot better than I expected him to when I first heard he'd talk about it, and I kinda don't know how to feel about that

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


kiimo posted:

I have to say that everyone finds TMZ to be disgusting yet if it wasn't for them we probably aren't seeing this.

It says a lot about this situation that TMZ come off as the least disgusting people involved in this mess.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


The Puppy Bowl posted:

Yeah, but I don't believe for second that he lied to the NFL or the Ravens. They're just covering their asses for PR.

Somebody lied. And I don't know who: a shitstain player, or a shitstain league. After how the Ravens acted, I can't even rule out them lying and being shitstains. Any and all are just as likely. Ugh.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


How can you even be surprised by Ditka at this point

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


TMZ being the reason Roger Goodell's reign ends would be incredible, don't even try to deny it

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


shizen posted:

If michael vick can come back I don't see how ray can't. This wouldn't be as big of an issue or probably lead to lifetime ban if he got the minimum year ban from the start.

Vick had jail. Rice won't.

Also Ocho didn't get to come back, and Ocho actually plays in a position where age doesn't matter.

Really surprised how people are defending a bad player, who's getting older, in a position where not many teams want to take chances on that to begin with, and does something horrible worthy of people wanting nothing to do with him.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

It still really fucks with me that during the ESPN round table Ray Lewis was the voice of reson

Same

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


TMZ will release proof of the NFL's cover up tomorrow morning

MJpopcorn.gif

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Why are we fighting amongst each other when we're amidst the last months of the Goodell Era

We should be celebrating

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Mel Mudkiper posted:

because I fear who might replace him

JFF (Joe loving Flacco) pulls off his helmet, rips off his uniform to reveal a suit with a gummy bear bow tie, and takes his rightful throne

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Whirlwind Jones posted:

No video. Who cares.

You really do sound mad about an rear end in a top hat being potentially out of the league forever and the league potentially being hosed for their handling of the whole situation, and it's really concerning

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


football fuckerman posted:

Ray Rice in the hall of fame hahahahah can we revisit that little fiction

He wasn't even going to be in the team's HOF before this, did somebody actually say Ray Rice would be in the Hall

wow

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


haljordan posted:

I guess I'd stand by Ray Rice too just so he doesn't knock me the gently caress out in an elevator.

Oh yeah. I didn't get that far when I first saw it, I just immediately saw stupid thing after stupid thing, then gave up at "politically correct lynch mobs"

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


haljordan posted:

Christ, I think Ray Rice even spits on her after he punches her. If there's any justice in this world, he'll get run over by a bread truck tomorrow.

He spat on her before he punched her. When he leaned in.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Probably Magic posted:

So what did Ray Rice actually tell the team then? Did he lie or what? Looking forward to an interview with a team representative so we can get that sorted out! Oh wait.

He told them he hit her and she hit the railing. Don't know if the spitting or fact that there were two punches were mentioned though.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ban everyone, gas, and bring back only 1 GDT for 1 PM and 4 PM games each

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Rice is being kicked out of Madden on the next update this week

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Next SI cover

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Shath Hole posted:

I don't think the two are comparable at all, tbh.

Yeah but by all means keep comparing one person who spent a year in prison for his crime to another person who will never spend time in prison for his crime

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


quote:

Sept. 9, 2014

Dear Ravens Stakeholder:

You deserve an explanation.

What happened with the Ray Rice incident? How could it come to this? Why didn’t we act earlier?

As a PSL holder, suite owner, sponsor and supporter, you have a stake in us. You have invested in us – emotionally as well as financially, trusted us, and believed in us. We value that trust and owe you full disclosure.

First, let us say that we did not do all we should have done and no amount of explanation can remedy that. What we can do now is share with you everything that occurred and vow to learn from all that has happened.

Here is how the situation unfolded, and here are our thoughts behind the decisions we made.

On the morning of Feb. 15, we learned that Ray and his then fiancé, Janay, had been arrested at an Atlantic City casino, and both had been charged with “simple assault” resulting from an altercation with each other. After the couple was taken to police headquarters, and after a report was written, they were allowed to leave together.

A number of Ravens’ representatives talked with Ray during the course of that day. His explanation was that after he and Janay had consumed a great deal of alcohol, they had had an argument and that they struck each other.

We at the Ravens organization issued a statement to the media that we were aware of the incident, that we had talked with Ray, and that he deserved the due process of law.

We then began our own process to discover as much as we could about what happened. We talked with representatives of the casino, the police who arrested the couple, the prosecutor and a lawyer who represented both Ray and Janay in the case. Soon after, the video of Janay and Ray coming out of the elevator became public.

We contacted the casino management and asked if there was video of the incident from inside the elevator that we could see. The casino would not share such video. We asked the local New Jersey police and the police refused as well. We asked the prosecutor’s office and that office refused. It was our understanding at that time that Ray’s attorney had not yet seen the video. NFL officials had been informed, and we know they were also trying to retrieve and/or see the video.

Assessing the situation at of the end of February, this is what we knew: A player who had been a model citizen in the community and terrific teammate for six seasons had been charged with simple assault against his fiancé. At that time, his fiancé Janay had been similarly charged.

Ray and Janay both told us nothing like this had happened before. He was showing great remorse; they were meeting regularly with our team chaplain and were diligently attending couples counseling.

In March, the prosecutor dropped the case against Janay, but elevated the charge against Ray from simple assault to aggravated assault. At this point, we decided to defer action until completion of the court proceedings. We stopped seeking to view or obtain a copy of the video. We halted our fact-finding. That was a mistake on our part.

In May, the prosecutor recommended, and the judge agreed, that Ray should be accepted into a pre-trial intervention program that will eventually have the assault charge dismissed from his record, pending a year of good behavior.
The police had seen video from inside the elevator. The prosecutor and the judge, who had also seen such video, allowed Ray into the program that would eventually clear him of the assault charge.

On June 16, Ray and Janay met with Commissioner Roger Goodell, who then announced on July 27 that Ray Rice would be suspended for the first two games of the season. Ray subsequently met with the media and answered questions.

Yesterday morning Sept 8, all of us saw the video from inside the elevator. It is violent and horrifying. I immediately came to the office and called a meeting with Dick Cass, Ozzie Newsome, John Harbaugh and Kevin Byrne. The meeting was relatively short. The decision to let Ray Rice go was unanimous. Seeing that video changed everything. We should have seen it earlier. We should have pursued our own investigation more vigorously. We didn’t and we were wrong.

We are moving forward and believe we can help put more of a spotlight on intimate partner violence, while increasing education and awareness to this issue to all in our organization. Our recently announced partnership with the House of Ruth is a start.

We view ourselves as a family. Like families, we have used tough love in the past (fines, benching and releases) with repeat offenders. Because of his positive contributions on and off the field over the last six years, Ray had earned every benefit of the doubt from our organization. We took everything we knew and decided to support Ray Rice until we could not.

We hope that Ray will continue to work to be the best husband, father and person he can be, and he will turn this awful situation into something positive. We also have learned a great deal and will continue to strive to be an organization and team you and Baltimore will be proud of. I am sorry we let you down.

Sincerely,

Stephen J. Bisciotti
Owner, Baltimore Ravens

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Didn't they extend Suggs literally a day or two after news about the Rice incident first broke?

ed: Yep. Ray was arrested Feb. 15, Suggs was extended Feb. 17

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


@JimTrotter_NFL
Had a team official ask me this morning: Who's next in line to be commissioner? Me: Roger ain't going anywhere. Now: Well, er, um ...

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Olbermann rules and Goodell's done

This is amazing

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Please hire Stern

Never forget him asking Jim Rome on-air if he's stopped beating his wife yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73vGdCaC048

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I will be surprised if Goodell is still commissioner by the next draft.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


@Marriott
@WillMcAvoyACN As a league partner, we are closely following the situation. We trust that the NFL will address the matter appropriately.

League sponsors even starting to have to speak out

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ravens/Steelers TNF GDT: Good luck thinking anybody will talk about the game

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