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axeil
Feb 14, 2006
Well I guess the NFL/Ravens claims that she "provoked" him or whatever are total horseshit. Thanks for making that a thing Peter King, Steven A. Smith, et. al.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Ehud posted:

Colin Cowherd just blamed video games for young men committing violent acts.

Colin Cowherd trolls at a level us here at TFF can only dream of.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Chokes McGee posted:

You'd be surprised. That's twice now Goodell has been hit in the face with his own stupidity (replacement refs, the original Rice incident) and, after a couple of weeks of intense negative press, had to walk back or surrender on his position.

I seriously think this is going to cost Goodell his job. Maybe not right away, but the furor will get to a point where the owners feel seriously threatened that sales are going to go south and will send him to the guillotine to save face.

:laffo: That's never going to happen. Goodell makes them money hand over fist with his idiocy, he has a job as long as the money rolls in. And the money will continue to roll in because a) most NFL fans aren't Ravens fans and b) the season's already started so this will be buried once MNF happens tonight.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

No Butt Stuff posted:

I really doubt that Goodell reopens this. He should, but I'm sure there's some poo poo about it in the CBA.

Congrats Ray Rice on beating the system and your wife.

Goodell pisses on the CBA all the time for pointless reasons. But no, now it's time to make a Principled Stand and uphold the CBA. :patriot:

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Garbo posted:

you forgot the amen it doesn't count

Kind of telling that Adem Schefter is flipping his lid on live TV yet Peter King is trying desperately to wiggle his way to where the NFL isn't the bad guy.

Yeah especially since Adam Shcefter is basically just the "reporting on injury and transactions" guy. So it's not really his job to go off on this while this is totally within Peter King's realm.

Another entry into Why_Peter_King_Sucks.docx

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Kirios posted:

Also the NFL are lying sacks of poo poo for saying they didn't have access to the video prior to today and I hope none of you believe them for a second.

I hope we're all cynical enough now to not trust the NFL when it comes to anything that could damage The Shield.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Harlock posted:

Yep.

BREAKING: AP Source: Law enforcement official sent copy of Ray Rice tape to NFL executive in April

https://twitter.com/AP/status/509806406934204416

Roger Goodell is gonna get forced out by this. I can't believe it.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

FizFashizzle posted:

the enemies of rutgers athletics know no limits in their witchhuntery.

What's the story behind "the enemies of Rutgers Athletics"? Did Schiano utter that phrase at some point?

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Industrial posted:

Why the gently caress would Roger Goodell risk his job by lying to protect loving Ray Rice? Something doesn't add up here. What did he have to lose by handling the tape from day 1 the way he did on Monday if he had really seen it?

He had to protect The Shield at all costs. The Shield is never wrong. Ergo they never saw the tape because The Shield would never stand for that if they knew the full truth.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Franks Happy Place posted:

@michelleboudin: Sources now confirm @nflcommish will NOT be attending #clt event homoring his friend Jerry Richardson. Was supposed to present award.

Homoring

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Pryor on Fire posted:

I'm really looking forward to whatever the Onion comes up with during NFL Pink month related to this.

Oh my god I forgot about Pink Month. If Goodell is still in charge then it's gonna be glorious.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

Firing a woman as their scapegoat is going to go over really well.

They're tone-deaf enough to do it, though.

This is pretty much what's gonna happen. It's almost too perfect with the way everything else has gone.

Firing a woman for all this is probably the only thing that can somehow make it worse, unless they reveal that Goodell also has a domestic assault arrest/conviction under his belt.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Quest For Glory II posted:

I think Wilbon put it best (in a rarity) when he said that "either he's lying or he's shown he has a lack of institutional control, and either one means he has to go"

That's the same argument people used for Chris Christie and his bridge shutdown debacle and he's still governor.


This is like when the owner gives the coach a vote of confidence right?

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Quest For Glory II posted:

I hope "Roger Goodell does not care about women getting beaten unconscious by men." is the new "Cam Newton was paid $975,000" of TFF memes

As long as it replaces "fencing response" and pearl clutching about not watching the NFL anymore I'm okay with it.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

seiferguy posted:

Congress gets involved in every big sports scandal. See: baseball and steroids

Yeah, it ends up being Congress's business as they have anti-trust exemptions or are chartered as very specific non-profits that only they qualify as.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Kalli posted:

The former Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police and Director of Strategic Security for the NFL? Even less people then Nobody would buy that.

It wouldn't be the first time someone in football from Pennsylvania failed to report something to his boss.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
So Deadspin point out something buried in Peter King's column today. Namely, Peter King was directly lied to and manipulated by either the NFL's general counsel, the VP in charge of Labor Relations or by Goodell himself.

http://deadspin.com/peter-king-is-a-goddamn-embarrassment-1665259136

Deadspin posted:

SI.com's Peter King, the most powerful NFL writer in the business, sees his job as flattering other powerful people so that they'll allow him to uncritically pass on whatever they'd like to have passed on. He's very good at it, as the incredible correction buried a couple of thousand words into his latest column shows.

In the second item in the column, King lays out five thoughts and thought-like objects inspired by former federal judge Barbara Jones's recent determination that the NFL overstepped its authority in dropping Ray Rice into a black hole. The first four are unobjectionable. The fifth is this:

I quoted a source in July as saying Janay Rice made a moving case for leniency for Ray Rice during the June 16 meeting. My source was incorrect. According to Judge Jones' report, Janay Rice was asked only one question during the hearing—how she felt—and she cried and said, "I'm just ready for it to be over." I regret the error, and should have vetted the story further before publishing the account of one source.

The reference is, apparently, to this column, in which Janay Rice's "moving case for leniency" is presented as the single most important reason why Roger Goodell suspended Ray Rice for only two games for knocking his wife out in a hotel elevator. It's presented there not just in broad terms, but in concrete, detailed ones:

"Rice's wife, a source said, made a moving and apparently convincing case to Goodell during a June 16 hearing at Goodell's office in Manhattan—attended by Rice, GM Ozzie Newsome, club president Dick Cass of Baltimore; and Goodell, Jeff Pash and Adolpho Birch of the league—that the incident in the hotel elevator was a one-time event, and nothing physical had happened in their relationship before or since. She urged Goodell, the source said, to not ruin Rice's image and career with his sanctions."

(Note the language here: The phrase "apparently convincing" and the word "urged" subtly present harsh punishment as a default position that Janay Rice argued Goodell out of. King is essentially saying that if you think Ray Rice got off too light, you should take it up with his wife.)

This didn't actually happen, though! In her own account of things, in an ESPN as-told-to over which she retained editorial control, Janay Rice is clear on exactly what did:

"I really didn't think they would ask me any questions, but I was asked one. I was surprised I was asked anything at all. One of the NFL executives asked me how I felt about everything. And I broke down in tears. I could hardly get a word out. I just told him that I was ready for this to be over."

There is no way to reconcile this with what King's source described over the summer. And as with a previous King correction involving an element of the Rice case, the journalistic error he's admitting to here is so basic as to be literally unbelievable.

The most generous version of what happened here would involve King getting caught up in a game of telephone, with some lower-level NFL minion's distorted version of what happened in the meeting between the Rices and league and team brass ending up in King's column. This would show King as being willing to run a key detail related by some random flunky without checking it in any way with the principals, who aren't exactly strangers to King. It would paint him as a complete incompetent, and a moron.

It's much more likely, of course, that someone who was in the room—one of the three NFL officials or two Baltimore Ravens officials King places there—lied to him. What he published, after all, wasn't an incorrect version of what actually happened, but something that never happened at all. And it had a very clear beneficiary, allowing Roger Goodell to be seen not as issuing a punishment that showed the NFL doesn't care about domestic violence, but as showing deference to the wishes of a victim.

King, in this version of events, was used as the instrument of a smear campaign, almost certainly by either the league's commissioner, its general counsel, or its senior vice president in charge of labor policy. That's a big goddamn story! A serious reporter, you'd think, would want to expose the powerful people who used his column against Janay Rice. Even allowing a more generous interpretation, you'd think anyone with any curiosity at all would want to know how exactly Janay Rice telling NFL higher-ups she just wanted it all to be over morphed into her pleading for mercy on her husband's behalf.

You don't get to be Peter King by being serious or even curious, though; you get there by doing your job.

If Peter King was an actual journalist he'd be screaming about this from the rooftops, not burying it in his column.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

DJExile posted:

Nobody reads my posts :(

I didn't realize it was the same story :smith:

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