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Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

ssbbud posted:

So what does Goodell do now to save face?

Relegate the Ravens.

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Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

axeil posted:

Well I guess the NFL/Ravens claims that she "provoked" him or whatever are total horseshit. Thanks for making that a thing Peter King, Steven A. Smith, et. al.

I was wondering if that was just my imagination. They really gussied it up to make it sound like she came after him but nooooope.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

MourningView posted:

I mean it's obviously really bad, but I don't think anyone seriously believed that video was going to show anything other than exactly what it does. It's not really new. He was already a piece of human trash and the NFL's response was already awful.

All true, but Donald Sterling was also always awful and a damning piece of media can work wonders on public opinion/discourse.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
I guess I wasn't as caught up with the legal stuff related to this case; would a lawyer-minded person mind explaining what the hell this whole "diversionary program" thing is that Rice got into to avoid a trial? Is it akin to what someone caught for drug possession would receive in order to work towards rehabilitation? Why would that kind of program exist for a violent crime?

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Ramadu posted:

Ray Rice press conference on ESPN right now

:psyduck: Why would you hold a press conference? "Gotta get ahead of this thing!"

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Whirlwind Jones posted:

The most interesting part of this whole thing isn't Ray Rice's future at all. It's the fact that the NFL apparently lied about seeing the video and if anything will eventually come of that.

Either that or all these twitter-wielding journalists disseminated baseless facts about the case, two notions I am delighted to see exposed in such an embarrassing way.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

OBR posted:

I'm not really following how this video changes anything. We already had a video of him dragging a unconscious woman out of an elevator. Was it really unclear to anyone how she came to be unconscious in the elevator? Was there reasonable doubt that there was some kind of loss of air pressure during the ride?

How does it take a video of the punch to get people riled up about the two game suspension and inaction from the Ravens?

It's visceral and graphic and probably an unprecedented sight for most people. The Zapruder film is a huge part of collective memory of JFK's assassination. The story was already a significant historical event without it, but the film became an icon.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

The Puppy Bowl posted:

How are the Ravens? Why is it their job to fill in for our corrupt lovely legal system? I really don't like the idea of the league suspending anyone for issues that don't directly relate to football but wouldn't mind adding to Rice's suspension due to the nothing of a punishment he received.

The Ravens are getting poo poo for unleashing their PR machine in such a way that attempted to diminish the gravity of Rice's actions.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Either they were in on it, or they didn't know. Either way, gently caress NFL headquarters.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
The next Douche of the Year is Everyone. Just Everyone.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Step 1: Think about what our legal system did in the face of this evidence. Step 2: :barf:

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

windshipper posted:

Espn has said that the casino didn't/wouldn't release this video (which is why the nfl is saying they didn't see it). I don't believe that for one minute, but that's the rumor.

In what universe would that not be evidence that was sought out by investigators? Please don't tell me it's ours.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Vengarr posted:

It's also quite possible that Rice paid the casino not to release it.

Not well enough, apparently.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Dexo posted:

Shrug, a pre-trial intervention and probation aren't too far out of the norm for situations like these.

That is scary to me.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Chris James 2 posted:

Ray Lewis genuinely handled that a lot better than I expected him to when I first heard he'd talk about it, and I kinda don't know how to feel about that

Just remember while you're listening that God doesn't make mistakes.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Because giant organizations really hate the idea of being accountable for anything.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Crazy Ted posted:

And played over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

And .gif'd by the very scumbags who released it.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
CBS Evening News will have a Goodell interview tonight. A thin slice surrounded by anchors talking has been posted: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-we-did-not-see-the-2nd-ray-rice-tape-earlier/

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Quest For Glory II posted:

You're aware that Goodell still claims football doesn't cause concussions right

It really was some next-level media-maneuvering for the NFL to catch as little poo poo for League of Denial as they did.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

The Glumslinger posted:

I hope they hire David Stern

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Josh Lyman posted:

Roger Goodell just saved his job. There is zero, and I mean ZERO chance of the investigation showing wrongdoing. The owners are staunchly supporting him.

They can't stop the entirety of mainstream media eviscerating their image though. I still say Roger is done.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Though it's been obvious forever, it's fascinating to see how the kind of cultural elevation of football competition over civic and moral responsibility that was shown in Bissinger's Friday Night Lights can be correlated from the high school level all the way up to the professionals. This is perhaps the most egregious, popular, and damning example of it that we've ever seen.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Yeah, if any situation merited a public "gently caress you" it was that. For them to yank her afterwards is terrible.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
I certainly hope they do keep up with the moronic press conferences because the more examples we get of how tone-deaf the entire system is, the better our odds of enacting some form of change.

Granted, 'change' is loaded and debatable and the status quo will likely proceed unmutilated.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

FizFashizzle posted:

being ripped in the mid nineties was a much shorter mountain to climb.

What was that?



Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the breeze from my flowing mane.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
I think it's bullshit because it's always been an opinion radio show. What does journalistic integrity have to do with a show that's 80% overestimating a Boston team's abilities?

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Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Aye Doc posted:

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11950012

see everybody, ray isn't such a bad guy. all you need to do to come to that conclusion is to be knocked unconscious by him so you won't remember he uppercutted you into a gentle slumber

The fix is in:

quote:

"We felt like a weight had been lifted," Janay said. "Mr. Goodell seemed to be a really reasonable and caring guy and wanted to make sure other people would learn from our mistake."

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