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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

They are numbers games that the government runs that basically only poor people participate in, spending a disproportionately high amount of their own income in a game they will never win and also that money never finds its way into the programs it is supposed to.

Also every time I go into the store for something some alkie lottolord is trying to turn the cash register into his own person Vegas and just gently caress off man.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

nomadologique posted:

i think this same op started an anti lottery thread like six months ago

get off yr high horse and gtfo of my way i'm buying lotto and ima win this time

I actually didn't.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh also it leads to poor people opposing progressive tax hikes on the rich because they don't want to pay those taxes one day when they are rich from playing the lottery.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lawman 0 posted:

It's a tax op.

Yeah a super regressive one.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The top marginal tax rate should be 90%.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

People do such a bad job of living their own lives they really shouldn't have very much financial agency imho.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

LifeSizePotato posted:

tell someone who won $20 million how dumb they are, op

See what Ill do there is just wait four years after they are completely destitute again because that's what happens to virtually all lottery winners because someone who buys a shitload of lotto tickets their whole lives guess what! Also don't have very good money mgmt skills.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

tiananman posted:

So you ban lotteries and then you go back to how it used to be with people buying black market lotteries where the winners are fixed or sometimes non-existent. People will be dumb with their money as a rule. Can you blame the government for wanting their cut?

BTW even with legal lotteries, the underground "numbers" games still exist.

Banning lotteries is just one plank in my 1000 point platform on How to Fix this lovely Nation by Transitioning to Full FUckin' Communism.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hector Beerlioz posted:

I'll buy a $1 scratcher every now and then. Fun way to spend a minute. Some times you win sometimes you don't but no real loss if you do.

Yeah that's fine

Also I think the gov't takes half your winnings anyway?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Cokes cost a buck fifty?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

nimh posted:

In Australia cigarettes are now US$1 each unless youre buying a carton

drat...

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Darth123123 posted:

the poor gamble alot, but the elderly poor gamble a poo poo ton if my local casino demographic has any bearing

yeah I went to a Louisiana casino for my brother's batchelor party and there was a dude in a motorized wheelchair with oxygen and wearing literally a hospital gown and nothing else playing the slots.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

One the one hand I think people should be allowed to do what they want with their money on the other hand, uhhhhhhhh.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yes let's do things Gilded Age style.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

BigBoss posted:

I think we should also ban fiction books because I agree that spending money on something that's just fantasy is dumb and bad.

are we banning your sex life as well then

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

raditts posted:

I got a scratch-off ticket the other day and I won a free ticket on it

what now op what now

M..my premise :negative:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Kyrie eleison posted:

i have had to suffer many indignities throughout my life. i'm sure god is observing my pain and is just planning some really great victory in my life. he knows i'm trying my best, yeah i know i mess up sometimes and sometimes i'm downright mean, sometimes i lie and cheat and hurt others and let people down, and i'm awfully lazy, but you know, i think god sees my inner heart and knows that deep down i'm a good guy. and i think god is going to reward me by making this ticket a winner. i have a good feeling about this one. i think he wants me to turn things around. heck i'll donate some of the winnings to charity. i'll help my mother pay for her medical care. i'll be able to buy everyone a nice place to live. nobody's going to have to worry anymore. i just know it

Uh arent you like super religious?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh yeah also legal bingo. smfh.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

"a tax only stupid people have to pay"

holy drat

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Really diggin on these gambling stories yall.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The true problem is the idea of the American Dream which makes people believe that they deserve to and can become super rich.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

No one actually.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lol at the idea of hard work leading to super wealth or even upward social mobility.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

EugeneJ posted:

"40% are stuck at the top"

Well that must suck

I bet if you broke out the very top wealth percent it would be even worse.

Basically if you're poor you stay poor and if you're rich you stay rich. There's a little movement in the middle class but the middle class is shrivelling up.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Kelfeftaf posted:

That's get-rich-quick quackery rather than "the American Dream," though.

The american dream is actually a big ol mess a hamburgers ha

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

High correlation there tbqh

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

EmmyOk posted:

How clever.

I worked in retail for a few years and most people who regularly bought lotto tickets would spend less than a tenner a week. Even if you're on the dole a tenner is hardly a crippling amount.

Oh hell I didn,t know you had anecdotal evidence!

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

EmmyOk posted:

Evidence almost as unassailable as your hatred of poors.

Lol that I hate poors

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hmm this guy made a thread about how the lotto exploits the poor, advocated for communism and decried the total lack of upward social mobility. Next he'll be talking about an unprecedented expansion of the social safety net, what a typical elitist fat cat.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Drink Cheerwine posted:

arrogant apparatchik wants to control other people's money bc he knows better than those stupid filthy lumpen

It's true I do.


EmmyOk posted:

Ah yeds, basically the same thing!

It is very nice of you to make a thread about the lotto for them you little revolutionary! We'll have social mobility by teatime tomorrow.

Due to a lack of nutrition, stimulating early childhood, early education and access to good schools, being poor literally makes you stupid.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I too have seen Rounders.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Did the movie Rounders kick off the texas holdem craze because I'd never even heard of that poo poo before the movie came out and suddenly it was loving everywhere.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Posters can advocate state sanctioned religion if they want.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

a starwar betamax posted:

i disagree OP, in my opinion....stae run lotterys are actually good

What in the gently caress

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Fishy Joe posted:

its fun occassionally to drop a few bucks on a big jpot. its not the lamest way to spend 5 buc and its fun to dream for a minute before the crushing depression of this hell we call living comes back to us

Cool but again the problem isn't middle class kids dropping five bucks on a lotto ticket once a year it's people who spend legit percentages of their income on lottery poo poo

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