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Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
I would like to play.

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Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
Confirmed.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Propaganda Machine posted:

i have also been horribly busy all day. this will get my attention when i get home.

Regardless of whether you're at work or at home, if you can post a message like this, you can post an actual response. These types of messages in Mafia are absolutely pointless.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
Okay, it's been two days without a single person posting. Can you guys put in a little more effort now since the deadline is coming up tomorrow?

Propaganda Machine posted:

oh hey, now that i look at it, literally your only contribution since 'confirmed' was that little gem. i think that makes you even less productive than tastee.

First of all, I have been swamped in my career so I lack the time to catch up on this thread at all hours of the day, but at least I can read it whenever I have the opportunity seeing how it's the weekend and NO ONE has been posting at all. Secondly, I am unfamiliar with the format of this type of mafia game so of course I am going to need some time to adjust to get my bearings straight. Would you rather have me speak with an uneducated opinion and only bring townies down even further? This is a legitimate question that deserves a legitimate answer.

merk posted:

Do you think he's scum then?

It is impossible to 100% correctly determine scum without a shadow of a doubt on day 1 due to the fact that there is so little evidence to be aware of. However, such a behavior is incredibly detrimental to the game and regardless of whether or not this person is scum, their actions are still outright disrespectful and people like this should be open to scrutiny if they continue to act in such a way.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Propaganda Machine posted:

this type of post is useless. you may as well not post at all.

to be clear: just because you used 500x more words than i did doesn't mean you said anything different than i did.

You have no right to say such things. All you're doing right now is saying I'm useless without even reading my posts. If you DID read my previous post, you would've known to answer to this:

Harold Krell posted:

Would you rather have me speak with an uneducated opinion and only bring townies down even further? This is a legitimate question that deserves a legitimate answer.

However, now that you're here, I'd like some more questions answered. How experienced are you at playing mafia? Is this your first game? Do you know what evidence is and how to use it in order to make decisive facts? I want to know what level of ignorance you have regarding this game in general.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Propaganda Machine posted:

a) not very

b) no

c) wow. rude.

d) wow. rude.

i did actually check you out on votefinder, and you are not that much more experienced than i am. way to be condescending, flippant, and completely unhelpful.

I am not being rude. I am just not letting my emotions get the better of me. The key to finding scum is to think RATIONALLY and not be flippant anytime makes an accusation. You would benefit from knowing that fact.

Also, saying "no" and "rude" does not count as an adequate response. Please give me better responses soon.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Rarity posted:

He's being a dick.

I find it hypocritical that my behavior offends you even though you are outright slinging slurs at me in the middle of a game. It's funny because I have never personally shown you any disrespect ever before, so what exactly is it about me you find so dickish? I am interested in hearing about your answer.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Propaganda Machine posted:

no was the truthful answer. rude calls them dumb questions. poo poo talk all you wish, but do not insult my intelligence.

No. That is NOT a truthful answer. You are either not understanding what I am saying or you are deliberately bypassing the issue.

Do you not understand that YOU are insulting your own intelligence by giving half-hearted responses?

This is what I am going to do:

##vote Propaganda Machine

Do you see that?

That is a single vote against you.

I'm not sure you are paying attention to anything else in the game right now, but you are beginning to irritate a lot of people in this game. You are constantly hounding specifically me and you are side-stepping important issues, and this type of antisocial behavior is starting to bring this game to a halt at a critical time. Now, if you continue to be stubborn, it won't be long until everyone else turns against you. If you really are town, then you should be able to have actual responses to these questions since they don't even reflect upon your alliances in this game. Otherwise, you are actively misleading people and are attacking people just for the hell of it and whether or not you are town or scum, people will refuse to keep you in the game anyways.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
I'm sorry, but I cannot for the life of me see how you all are getting this evidence from the last challenge. What are you basing your accusations on?

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Rarity posted:

You're arrogant, pompous and disrespectful. Get over yourself.

No.

YOU are the one who is being arrogant.

YOU are the one who is being pompous.

YOU are the one who is DEFINITELY being disrespectful.

You dare say these things to me when you were the one to call me a dick in the first place? You never really answered my question either. I personally will not put up with simplistic and crude responses like this. Please explain to me with EVIDENCE as to why I am irksome to you. Your response may be enlightening to you as well as myself.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Rarity posted:

I'm down to lynch Pmush. 2 days to deadline though, what are we gonna talk about?

Say, how about that local sports team, guys?

You know you never answered my question. What's your problem with me? I am interested in knowing your stance.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:
Okay, I've been very busy at my career for the past two (2) days, and I've just barely glazed over what has happened during that time span. Apparently, people are claiming their numerical stats which seem to be this game format's form of role, so at this point, I'd like to ask why this type of role claiming is being done at this point in the game?

Like I said, I have only perused the thread since I have been away from my career, so please do not take this as me playing dumb. I will have time later today to get a little more insight concerning the challenges and the numerical stats, so I may be able to solve this mystery on my own, but this still may take some discernible time.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

Claims

Violence:

- TT
- Opop
- Meds/Savahontas
- Magnus


Intelligence:

-Lumpen
-Pmush LIAR


Tech:

-Kerro
- Merk
- Rar



Diplomacy:

- AC
- Pig
- Ras
- Tastee


Not claimed, alive:

Krell. Has to be intelligence.
PMach. Has to be intelligence.



Cleared: Lumpen, Krell, Pmach. Taste clears himself.

:siren: Scum are one of AC/Pig/Ras and one of Opop/Sava :siren:

Where are you getting your information from? What does it mean to say that I have intelligence?

As an overview for everyone, I usually try to post when I'm not currently at my career so I haven't really discerned anything of importance aside from standard mafia play. However, as I delved into more recent posts, I've noticed that people had been role claiming into some weird categories such as violence, intelligence, tech, and diplomacy. Does this have anything to do with the stat points with the same naming convention? I believe this is an important point that needs to be addressed immediately before the lynch.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Propaganda Machine posted:

um, your role should have you listed as some kind of specialist.

maybe if you're scum you are not noted as any kind of specialist.

this is very interesting.

I just rechecked the PM I got for my role.

I am a DIPLOMACY specialist.

I am NOT an INTELLIGENCE specialist.

Either there are multiple scum lying about their diplomacy role claim or Tremendous Taste is lying.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

hm, no, that's not right, tastee is town.


I think krell is lying

Why would I have any inclination to lie other than the fact that I was scum? You made it an evident point that there were exactly 3 people per specialty, so where would this put me now that FOUR people proclaim themselves as diplomacy specialists? The fact that I've been busy with my career should not automatically pigeonhole me into being scum. (If you don't know what the pigeonhole theorem is, I suggest you look it up.)

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

krell, what are your stats

I am not in the position to give out details like that. It was already a mistake for everyone to role claim so early in the game. For me to give out my stats would give scum an enormous advantage and would be foolhardy. What would you say if I demanded your full stats?

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Lumpen posted:

You post like a Scum.

I would lynch you.

My point still stands. What is it about me not posting my stats that seems fishier than you not posting your stats simply because I was asked?

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

Tell me the total of the four numbers, krell. You don't have to divide them.

I don't know why you're so adamant on having me expose myself to you more and more each time we talk, but I need to wake up early tomorrow in order to tend to my career, so this may be my last post for today.

I shall reveal my total point count as long as it is viewed under a fair light, but I implore that people should only look at this number if they will use this in a constructive manner and not instantly dogpile me for having something awkward with my count.

Once again, ONLY reveal this number unto yourself if you believe this will help enlighten your thought process. Otherwise, just pretend it doesn't exist.

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Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Lumpen posted:


Is it some kind of secret code? You are one of the strangest posters I've ever seen. What is your first language?

Career tending is serious occupation. I wish the best of luck unto you in regards to your career promotion. Be sure to research the business theorem. Please keep us informed about your important vocation to which you assiduously devote yourself.

Okay, wow.

Why did you think any of that was appropriate to say? You have no idea what my personal life is like so I suggest you shut your mouth before you try to speak again.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

I think it's ac and krell

##vote krell

Why are you continuing to pigeonhole me as scum? You have no real evidence as to why I am scum, so why are you so suspicious of me? Is it for personal reasons? I have never crossed you before, so I can't see any other reason why you and other people have been ganging up on me so recently.

Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Savahontas posted:

A large part of the problem - perhaps the only problem - is that your posting comes off very awkward and by extension, forced.

If not you - then who should we be voting for?

There is nothing wrong with the way I've been posting. I don't even know what I could be doing that makes me sound "forced" since this has never been brought up before. How is this confusing to you?

As to who I'd vote for, I would either select between Tremendous Taste or Rarity. Rarity never answered me about their suspicions against me, and the fact that Tremendous Taste's theory of role claiming automatically points me as scum seems like it was meant to set me up since people had been aware of my posting habits.



Also, don't do this. You don't get to harass people at your beck and call as if they were your servant. Have some manners.

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Harold Krell
Sep 10, 2011

I truly believe that anyone and everyone is capable of making their dreams come true.

:unsmigghh:

Tremendous Taste posted:

you're just the likeliest, krell. It's nothing to do with the mechanics of the way you post, it's the tone and content.

But WHY is it the tone and content? You are the ones who are aggressively going after me specifically, yet all you keep telling me is that it's the "tone and content" of my posts, but you never give any actual examples. If you really want to put a case against me then explain yourselves. Otherwise, drop this right now so we can proceed with this game.

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