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Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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fatherdog posted:

I dunno, do you figure Rory is really that much better a wrestler than Marquardt?

(This is in no way an endorsement of Marquardt, who is bad)

Probably not now that I think about that. Please don't make me hopeful.

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Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Lamadrid posted:

It wasn't my intention to compare directly but to comment that there are ways to work around the threat of the takedown without losing the capability to kick the poo poo out of someone :saddowns:

yeah crocop exists

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Sep 4, 2011

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Snowman_McK posted:

Does that include Condit? Or was it just because Condit's takedown defence is Diaz-esque?

He took Condit down a lot but so does everybody else. IIRC that fight was actually fairly close in the stand up but Rory was winning because of the takedowns, the problem with Condit being he's really good at getting back up but that just means he gets taken down a million times.

I really think that fight can be chalked up to experience, I think Rory had never had a guy who could take everything he gave him and just keep coming, and he broke eventually.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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I don't understand how he could be so good at everything else, but so terrible at that. Like I know he's not a wrestler, but come on man.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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No I know, it's just such a stark contrast to see a guy be so good at everything and then when someone shoots on him it's like he didn't know you were allowed to do that.

Like when he started defending takedowns against Kampmann I was literally shocked.

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Tezcatlipoca posted:

Rory was not winning because of takedowns. He would take Condit down and get punched in the face the entire time he was on top. By the third he was gassed and beat up and Condit whipped that rear end.

If this was actually how fights were scored Condit probably would have beat Hendricks too.

Dangersim
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Duzzy Funlop posted:

Noooo british commentary.

Dan Hardy is an excellent commentator :colbert:

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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They're just making up names now

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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I'm unwilling to believe this is not the same guy who just fought.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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HOLY poo poo

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Why is Roger Huerta hanging out with Chechens this doesn't make any sense

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Remember when Roger Huerta looked at the big screen to land elbows on a guy on his back and then disappeared from the planet until just now?

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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LobsterMobster posted:

He is Polish, after all

oh my

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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The fact that these punches are landing with this cartoonish wind up is hilarious

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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I don't know about the "start your attack with a rear hand uppercut as slow as you can" strategy

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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It was close and I don't care to think about it anymore

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Wait I know Charles Rosa in real life

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Triticum Guzzler posted:

how is his cooking

The restaurant he works at is good and once offered to get me a job there

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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This fight loving owns

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Rosa lives in my apartment complex but I think he'll be moving out cuz he's about to get paid

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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This is some vintage lay and pray

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Tezcatlipoca posted:

These stand ups are stupid.

why he's not doing a drat thing

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Tezcatlipoca posted:

They are stupid because the guy on the bottom did nothing to deserve it. Why is it okay to punish one guy for being boring when neither of them are doing poo poo?

It's on the guy on top to do something. If you want to keep your dominant position you need to do something with it, not just stall.

Also you realize a guy just sitting there and not opening up makes it extremely difficult to sweep them?

Dangersim fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 4, 2014

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Dangersim posted:

Also you realize a guy just sitting there and not opening up makes it extremely difficult to sweep them?

Dangersim
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THE BUTT MAN posted:

it's not a wrestling match mate, the goal is to terminate your opponent

What in the world does this mean?

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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I literally did not understand a single word of that

Dangersim
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THE BUTT MAN posted:

i mean that arguing that the guy on top can just lay on his opponent because "he might be swept" is not conducive to the goal of an MMA fight, two guys fighting each other to see who is a better fighter

I'm pretty sure I agree with you? I was saying that's why putting the onus on the bottom guy is dumb, if the top guy wants to just sit there he can and there's really nothing you can do to stop him without standups.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Tezcatlipoca posted:

Referees should not stand people up except in the most egregious cases of stalling.

What he was doing was pretty egregious.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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Tezcatlipoca posted:

I disagree, at least for the stand-ups in the third round.

Then you're wrong.

Dangersim
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Tezcatlipoca posted:

I'll reiterate that if you are on the bottom and can't generate offense, that is your fault. If you disagree with that then watch kickboxing.

I hate pull the "do you even train?" card but I don't think you understand how grappling works.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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origami posted:

Rocky lost so...

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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fatherdog posted:

In a BJJ match, you'd get 2 points for a takedown. If you didn't sweep afterwards, you'd lose.

I understand that, I'm talking about the concept that if a guy just buries his head in your chest and does nothing it is very difficult to do anything.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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jesus ref

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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EvanSchenck posted:

It looked like he was at an angle where Holloway was blocking his view of Akira so he couldn't see that he was out cold. Which is still his fault since knowing where to stand so you can see what is happening is a big part of reffing MMA.

He was, but he just strolled over without any urgency after Akira dropped like a stone and the watched him take about 3 punches while he was clearly out.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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origami posted:

I think sweden just booed a callout to Jesus

They sure as poo poo cheered cinnabons though.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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It's kinda weird that Chad Mendes is the biggest threat to Aldo while simultaneously being the guy who got beat the worst by him

Dangersim
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fatherdog posted:

Yeah that's cool and all but don't characterize it as "Do you even train (BJJ)?" because he would have won a BJJ match pretty clearly.

My point had nothing to do with grappling competition rules and more about grappling mechanics.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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origami posted:

Cub got beat worse and is a surprisingly valid contender

True, I was just considering his UFC title defenses though, because Faber probably got beat worse.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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origami posted:

I like gunnar and want him to win but sweden getting completely shutout would be pretty drat funny

Gunnar is from Iceland

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Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

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I swear everyone around Gunnar has become dour and awkward just from his presence.

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