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fatherdog posted:I dunno, do you figure Rory is really that much better a wrestler than Marquardt? Probably not now that I think about that. Please don't make me hopeful.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 05:07 |
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Lamadrid posted:It wasn't my intention to compare directly but to comment that there are ways to work around the threat of the takedown without losing the capability to kick the poo poo out of someone yeah crocop exists
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 06:13 |
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Snowman_McK posted:Does that include Condit? Or was it just because Condit's takedown defence is Diaz-esque? He took Condit down a lot but so does everybody else. IIRC that fight was actually fairly close in the stand up but Rory was winning because of the takedowns, the problem with Condit being he's really good at getting back up but that just means he gets taken down a million times. I really think that fight can be chalked up to experience, I think Rory had never had a guy who could take everything he gave him and just keep coming, and he broke eventually.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 11:09 |
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I don't understand how he could be so good at everything else, but so terrible at that. Like I know he's not a wrestler, but come on man.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 14:13 |
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No I know, it's just such a stark contrast to see a guy be so good at everything and then when someone shoots on him it's like he didn't know you were allowed to do that. Like when he started defending takedowns against Kampmann I was literally shocked.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 14:53 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Rory was not winning because of takedowns. He would take Condit down and get punched in the face the entire time he was on top. By the third he was gassed and beat up and Condit whipped that rear end. If this was actually how fights were scored Condit probably would have beat Hendricks too.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 16:45 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Noooo british commentary. Dan Hardy is an excellent commentator
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:19 |
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They're just making up names now
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:19 |
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I'm unwilling to believe this is not the same guy who just fought.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:30 |
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HOLY poo poo
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:37 |
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Why is Roger Huerta hanging out with Chechens this doesn't make any sense
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:38 |
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Remember when Roger Huerta looked at the big screen to land elbows on a guy on his back and then disappeared from the planet until just now?
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 17:41 |
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LobsterMobster posted:He is Polish, after all oh my
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:14 |
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The fact that these punches are landing with this cartoonish wind up is hilarious
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:28 |
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I don't know about the "start your attack with a rear hand uppercut as slow as you can" strategy
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:40 |
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It was close and I don't care to think about it anymore
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:45 |
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Wait I know Charles Rosa in real life
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:50 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:how is his cooking The restaurant he works at is good and once offered to get me a job there
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 18:52 |
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This fight loving owns
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 19:03 |
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Rosa lives in my apartment complex but I think he'll be moving out cuz he's about to get paid
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 19:13 |
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This is some vintage lay and pray
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 19:58 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:These stand ups are stupid. why he's not doing a drat thing
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 19:59 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:They are stupid because the guy on the bottom did nothing to deserve it. Why is it okay to punish one guy for being boring when neither of them are doing poo poo? It's on the guy on top to do something. If you want to keep your dominant position you need to do something with it, not just stall. Also you realize a guy just sitting there and not opening up makes it extremely difficult to sweep them? Dangersim fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 4, 2014 |
# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:10 |
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Dangersim posted:Also you realize a guy just sitting there and not opening up makes it extremely difficult to sweep them?
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:14 |
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THE BUTT MAN posted:it's not a wrestling match mate, the goal is to terminate your opponent What in the world does this mean?
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:16 |
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I literally did not understand a single word of that
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:19 |
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THE BUTT MAN posted:i mean that arguing that the guy on top can just lay on his opponent because "he might be swept" is not conducive to the goal of an MMA fight, two guys fighting each other to see who is a better fighter I'm pretty sure I agree with you? I was saying that's why putting the onus on the bottom guy is dumb, if the top guy wants to just sit there he can and there's really nothing you can do to stop him without standups.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:22 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Referees should not stand people up except in the most egregious cases of stalling. What he was doing was pretty egregious.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:23 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I disagree, at least for the stand-ups in the third round. Then you're wrong.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:26 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I'll reiterate that if you are on the bottom and can't generate offense, that is your fault. If you disagree with that then watch kickboxing. I hate pull the "do you even train?" card but I don't think you understand how grappling works.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:29 |
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origami posted:Rocky lost so...
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:33 |
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fatherdog posted:In a BJJ match, you'd get 2 points for a takedown. If you didn't sweep afterwards, you'd lose. I understand that, I'm talking about the concept that if a guy just buries his head in your chest and does nothing it is very difficult to do anything.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:43 |
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jesus ref
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:55 |
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EvanSchenck posted:It looked like he was at an angle where Holloway was blocking his view of Akira so he couldn't see that he was out cold. Which is still his fault since knowing where to stand so you can see what is happening is a big part of reffing MMA. He was, but he just strolled over without any urgency after Akira dropped like a stone and the watched him take about 3 punches while he was clearly out.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 20:58 |
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origami posted:I think sweden just booed a callout to Jesus They sure as poo poo cheered cinnabons though.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:00 |
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It's kinda weird that Chad Mendes is the biggest threat to Aldo while simultaneously being the guy who got beat the worst by him
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:03 |
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fatherdog posted:Yeah that's cool and all but don't characterize it as "Do you even train (BJJ)?" because he would have won a BJJ match pretty clearly. My point had nothing to do with grappling competition rules and more about grappling mechanics.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:04 |
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origami posted:Cub got beat worse and is a surprisingly valid contender True, I was just considering his UFC title defenses though, because Faber probably got beat worse.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:06 |
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origami posted:I like gunnar and want him to win but sweden getting completely shutout would be pretty drat funny Gunnar is from Iceland
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:08 |
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I swear everyone around Gunnar has become dour and awkward just from his presence.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 21:15 |