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Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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vyelkin posted:

What this thread is NOT for, but it happens all the time anyway:
  • Whose city is the best/worst? (it's Toronto. It's always Toronto that is simultaneously the best and worst)
  • Whose public transit is the worst.
  • Foodchat.
  • Yes, we get it, you hate Tim Hortons.
  • Stories about our time in Canadian universities.

This thread's going to be a slow one.

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Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Pinterest Mom posted:

Please replace the picture of JT in the OP with this, tia.


MacKay reminding everyone that the true symbol of manhood is the ability to make peace, not war. A Good Cartoon.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Pinterest Mom posted:

PKP just held a press conference hoping to put the Berlusconi question to rest.

If he's elected leader, he'll put his shares in a blind trust (with the instructions not to sell) and make a solemn declaration, on his honour, to not get involved or try to influence the editorial process.


~pinky swear~

I believe him -- if he played it right, he won't have to lift a finger or utter a word to get Quebecor to behave in the way he needs it to. Institutional inertia will do the job.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Jordan7hm posted:

Freedom to engage in economic activity without government interference.

I don't think that's hairsplitting at all.

If you actually read the report, you'll find that this isn't even close to Fraser's definition of economic freedom, which is essentially "unshakable and expansive property rights."

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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PT6A posted:

We should understand where they come from and where they ought to go (sky-high in many tiny fragments).

The creation of tiny terrorist fragments also inevitably creates tiny innocent fragments, whose relatives become whole terrorist non-fragments. That is certainly not where terrorists ought to go if your goal is to end the threat of terrorist attacks against Western societies.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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So the threat of ISIS is some 60-80 Canadians who went to fight for them, who may or not survive, may or may not return, may or may not be apprehended by the RCMP upon returning, and then may or may not commit criminal acts in Canada, before which they may or may not be caught or apprehended?

I'm not particularly terrified.

I'm all for intervention if what we're actually doing is protecting the Iraqi citizens who are being tortured and murdered. Bombs don't apply this sort of discrimination, and once you enter the realm of moronic fear-mongering, you just lose me.

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Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Jordan7hm posted:

Speaking of socialist radio, that bit about Amazon was so gross.

I'm pretty pro-capitalism but that type of corporate behavior is just unacceptable and absolutely needs to be legislated against (and then enforced, which is I guess the bigger issue).

The best part of the article is at the end: Justice Breyer says he defers to Obama's Labor Department, which sides... with Amazon. I mean who gives a poo poo that Amazon's warehouse workers are being forced to give 10-25 minutes to their employer for free? Certainly not this lovely rear end president!

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Yesterday, Quebec's National Assembly voted for a motion to amend the code of ethics for MNAs to prevent a MNA or his/her close family from owning majority stock -- directly or indirectly -- in any media company. Kind of small news since it won't force PKP to sell until/unless a proper amendment is written and voted on, but I love it when a rich and powerful rear end in a top hat gets a bloody nose, and my schadenfreude levels are spiking.

PKP is also being investigated for allegedly meddling in the sale of a media company -- Vision Globale -- where Quebecor was offering to buy. It's been a terrible week for Quebec's very own Berlusconi.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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We...we have technology worth stealing?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Whiteycar posted:

Big electrical fire Calgary downtown in the area where I believe PT6A lives.

Power out for 4-7 days

Post if you spot PT6A running around trying to convince local business owners to open shop despite no power.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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On the other hand he suggested that people choose being safe over making money!!!!

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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If people don't spend their money during the blackout, that money isn't going to vanish into the negative particle zone. They're just going to spend it later.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Bingemoose posted:

NDP coming to power = Canada's debt catching america

What?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Rime posted:

The reluctance of Canada to become a world-leader in any sort of technological breakthrough these days, especially nuclear, is quite befuddling. You'd assume that the country that cracks Thorium or one of its similar alternatives would be rolling in mad tech licensing cash for the remainder of the century, and we certainly turned a profit by selling CANDU units back in the day.

It's not befuddling at all; why would massive power systems tolerate potential threats to their power and wealth? Why would elites -- the owners of the media -- go against their class-based interests in paying for R&D that is unlikely to benefit them in the short or even medium term? Why would speculators gambling with currency values trust the CAD against the screeching of the energy industry?

You can probably come up with your own set of pressures against any sort of collective investment into alternative energy production, but it boils down to the idea that too many power systems have a financial stake against it.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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I was pissed at my ISP for loving up and leaving me without internet for a day, but maybe I had a guardian angel looking after me somewhere.

Chamale posted:

I know, and it scares me to say it. But when there's a list of 90 people with a common link, and 2 of them commit murders within two days, is that probable cause to arrest the rest at least temporarily? I want to say yes, but I don't know if I'm saying that rationally or because I'm scared.

It might be cause for a search warrant -- I'm not a lawyer, but my hunch is that a court would agree -- but detention? No way. Do you really want to grant the RCMP the power to detain someone who may or may not be associated with the Panic of the Month without evidence of any specific crime or conspiracy?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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tekz posted:

Haha word?

It's very well known that the West went into Afghanistan as a response to Indonesia's invasion of East Timor, or perhaps Bill Clinton's sanctions against Iraq.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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He's mocking legendary troll My Imaginary GF from some pages ago, notably the idea that Western Powers have the privilege to assign warzone/battlefield status wherever they want (and if civilians are killed in these areas, they had it coming) and over however much area they want (at any time) while enemy powers naturally don't.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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My problem with the word and that definition is that it makes a mockery of the language by ignoring outcomes. I don't live in terror of random outbursts of ideologically-motivated violence (naturally, to enter the definition of terrorism, that ideology must be hated, and violence employed in the name of opening up markets or the like doesn't count), but Iraqis, Afghans, Yemenis and other living under American drones, night raids and the threat of torture most certainly did, and we all know that's not terrorism -- a word that has no relation other than propagandistic to the word "terror."

This focus on intent over outcome just makes my stomach churn -- you can rain all sorts of terror onto civilian populations so long as it's collateral to some other (usually only professed) golden intent, but a threat less statistically significant than power outlets or swimming pools is underestimated, misunderstood and dire if its intent is detestable.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Man now we're all on some CSIS/CSEC list thanks for nothing idiots

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Whiteycar posted:

So anyone know what Harper's "Tougher security laws" will be?

I'm guessing it'll boil down to yet another smackdown from the Supreme Court.


PT6A posted:

I'm quite capable of introspection, I just recognize that there's a clear difference between fighting and killing for secular democracy and fighting and killing for an extremist Islamic cult, because I don't subscribe to moral relativism.

So I guess that's the point where someone points out that this is, precisely, moral relativism. If we murder and destroy, it's totally fine because we're doing it with good intent (and no inspection ought to be done into whether or not we truly hold that intent), but if others do the same, it's detestable.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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PT6A posted:

Good. All y'all spineless, terrorist-condoning weasels can get in the jail.

"Waaah, it's their culture," you can say. And then the door will close and the lock will click.

Thank you for properly expressing the danger of this sort of legislation by adeptly blurring the line between "explanation" and "justification" or "support."

In any case, maybe we'll be put in the same cell when they notice your posts about terrorizing the entire Middle-East into accepting a pro-western business climate with sufficiently pliable national institutions.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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PT6A posted:

I don't recall ever saying anything along those lines...

Fine; instead you advocated using violence and terror to suppress peoples' right to self-determination when it comes to mixing up national systems with religion, and you hilariously involved arguments like "This whole problem came about because we didn't recognize fundamentalist Islam as a larger problem than dictatorships" which makes you sound like you're either from a completely different world or simply clueless. Since you'd have to be ignorant to an unimaginable level to get the idea that, at any point, US policy-makers had fundamental issues with either dictatorships or fundamentalist theocracies (their real beef was with nationalism and secular democracy -- see Mossadeq of Iran for an example of what wasn't tolerable, and Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war for an example of what was), we're going to have to go out and assume that "PT6A" is some strange entity that broke through the boundaries between alternate timelines.

Basically you're a jerk and not terribly well informed.

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Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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PT6A posted:

gently caress people that base their government on religion, in any part, whether it's in Canada, in the US, in the Mideast, in Tibet, or in India. Sadly, as there's no such thing as Hell for them to burn in, they'll never get all that they deserve.

That's not a tenable thought unless you expand on what you mean by "religion." Where do you draw the line between a religious belief associated with a specific religion and some other kind of irrational belief/speculation like the idea that markets know best, or perhaps racist thought that has no root in religion?

But honestly, we're moving away from where the conversation started, which is the idea that you enthusiastically support the use of violence to suppress peoples' right to self-determination in certain arbitrary circumstances -- terrorism.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Danny LaFever posted:

Didn't read many posts today but I just wanted to say that since you all insist on engaging PT6A and quoting his poo poo posts that I just want to say his lovely FYGM posting manifested itself in in asking his thread in how to preserve his cheese in a long weekend power outage. He's the the hugest pussy and the shittiest poster.

Ugh can we stick to making fun of PT6A for the dumb things he wrote instead of something innocuous like asking for advice in a crappy situation?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Agreed. One of the more notable aspects of speeches warning us about "the threat of terrorism" is how that threat routinely goes unexplained. The reason for it is simple; to define the threat of small-scale, homegrown terrorism is to show how inept it is in comparison to other threats with mountains of corpses to their name, like poverty.

Yet, we know precisely which of those two threats will receive more funding and attention in the coming months.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Goldman Sachs predicts oil will fall to $70/barrel in 2015

quote:

Goldman Sachs says WTI will go for $75 a barrel in the first three months of 2015. Brent, meanwhile, will change hands at $85 a barrel. Both forecasts are down $15 from what the bank was last expecting. And both are forecast to slip even lower in the second quarter — historically a seasonally low time for oil prices — before rebounding a little in the summer of 2015.

CBC, oct. 10th posted:

In recent budgets, all three provinces [Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland] made revenue projections based on assumptions that oil prices would be a lot higher than they are.

Alberta's estimates are based on oil being about $97 a barrel. Saskatchewan assumed just under $100 a barrel. And while Newfoundland and Labrador bases its oil projections on Europe's benchmark, known as Brent Crude, that province was assuming the price would average about $105 a barrel. Brent was going for about $115 per barrel as recently as June. Today, it's at $89.

Gee I wonder who's going to pay for upcoming budget shortfalls. I sure hope it won't be teachers, students and public servants :angel:

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Wow, she's still going ice skating at 93? That's crazy. Most people are blessed to be half as healthy at 70.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Uh maybe we should stick to shunning him for being a massive creeper who beats women instead of stigmatizing anxiety disorders and therapy for them.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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HookShot posted:

Uh, I know you're being sarcastic, but that actually is unfair though?


I think the whole thing is stupid, and income splitting in general is completely ridiculous and I don't support it, but if you're going to implement it, implement it for ALL married couples, whether or not they have kids.

It's not unfair -- one couple has a person with 20-40 more hours per week to take care of their child (which is required to participate in income splitting) while the other has to pay for daycare. It's more or less subsidizing daycare but only for families with a high-earner.

The whole situation is really funny (and depressing) to watch from the party/ideology that routinely accuses the left of trying to buy poor people's votes with social programs.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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I don't think it's particularly bigoted to have a negative kneejerk reaction to lawyers, bankers and businessmen getting into politics. Few people go into those professions who aren't obsessed with wealth, power, prestige, or any combination of those, and those who do rarely turn to politics.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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HookShot posted:

Exactly, in that case, why not just subsisize childcare?

That's the real response to income splitting: why not just [insert any spending program with much greater social benefits]?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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On the other hand the target of the protest was elected into a majority government despite a baffling party history of corruption and zero effort to clean itself up so don't get any weird ideas about our political acumen.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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Quebec Solidaire is extremely young and has done better in every election compared to the last so I'm hopeful for them. They're helped by the strange phenomenon where they get a bump in the polls whenever Françoise David has an opportunity to talk about policy; almost like people agree with their ideas or somesuch.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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flakeloaf posted:

The only ones in Ontario who know how to put on a protest are the Natives and the press is cocked and ready to poo poo all over them every time they do it.

To be fair there's a pretty large (white) crowd right behind the press that is equally ready to poo poo on Natives when they start protesting.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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It's not like Elizabeth May has any idea of what's in her party's platform anyway; cut her some slack and may I suggest some homeopathic treatment for your jerkness?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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5 cabinet members? What the hell is going on over there for those who weren't paying attention?

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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yellowcar posted:

tbf ISIS could take a page right out of the IDF playbook and bulldoze buildings with the occupants still inside.

Um you only get to do that if there's a centuries old book out there telling you that you own that land get with the news dummy.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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We can't even loving Marshall Plan ourselves let alone the Middle-East.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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There are reasons for why we don't have any provincial "nationalized" energy holdings but they're not interesting and they all boil down to "global concentrations of private capital oppose it."

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Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

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I'm guessing the right wing solution is "put 40 more hours of your week into a minimum wage job."

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