2015 Baseball Hall of Fame Info and Bitchfest

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FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

My conservative guess is Smoltz, Big Unit, Pedro, Biggio

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 02:11

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 06:08

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

40 writers out of the 600+ that vote isn't the best barometer.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 14:27

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Vlad Antlerkov posted:

Meanwhile a lot of these same people vote for Jack Morris because he was a ~dominant pitcher in the heart of the steroid era~.

At least that's the justification I remember some guy using for voting for Morris but not Maddux.

Still a marginally better justification than 'started a bunch of Opening Days'

# ¿ Nov 1, 2014 02:00

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Badfinger posted:

The Hall removed a player's ability to choose when Wade Boggs tried to go in with a Devil Rays cap (reportedly for money).

Wasn't that a contract clause?

# ¿ Nov 1, 2014 18:34

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Timby posted:

Would Unit become the first member of the Hall to wear a Diamondbacks cap? I can't think of anyone else.

Has to be.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2014 22:23

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Marlins only have a mention on Andre Dawson's plaque.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2014 18:03

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

ozymandius1024 posted:

Cabrera's got to go in as a Tiger, right?

Yes.

I feel like I could be 60 before we get a Marlins cap in the Hall.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2014 19:13

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Alan Trammell posted:

Multiple-time World Series champion Jeffrey Loria will get in for sure.

He only won one though?

# ¿ Nov 5, 2014 01:14

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I remember when Nomar was in the same conversation as Jeter and A-Rod. Now I feel old.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2014 17:06

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

First dumb ballot is revealed:

quote:

News item: Dec. 17 deadline set for Baseball Hall of Fame ballots. I voted for Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Edgar Martinez, Pedro Martinez, Mike Piazza and Tim Raines.

http://www.masslive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/12/hitting_to_all_fields_shacklin.html

How do you not vote for Big Unit at least? Really confusing.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2014 01:30

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I mean I give him props for the Raines vote, but you vote for Edgar and not Bonds, Clemens, Smoltz, or Johnson? It looks like he just picked some random dudes.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2014 02:57

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Larry Walker probably falls off. I would hope Sheff doesn't, but with the ties to BALCO and the crowded field I could see it.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2014 17:43

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

The results of the Golden Era Veterans' Committee ballot will be released today at 2 PM.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2014 17:17

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Yeah I figured no one would make it. I'm a bit surprised those two got the most votes though.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2014 20:12

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

leokitty posted:

The VC as it is now is designed to not actually elect players.

The last version was also designed that way.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2014 01:04

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

He sounds mentally ill.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2014 23:17

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Mornacale posted:

My favorite part is the weird obsession with limiting the number of elections in a year, regardless of worthiness.

Sadly it seems like this is a common sentiment among HOF voters (mostly the older ones).

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 00:38

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Gunjin posted:

Piazza is going to miss again this year isn't he? gently caress these people.

Him and Bagwell, yeah. I think the most optimistic result is Biggio, Smoltz, Johnson, Pedro

# ¿ Dec 28, 2014 22:37

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

zakharov posted:

Ted Williams called for the induction of Negro Leagues players.

Without him and Bob Feller there wouldn't be any in the Hall, as far as I can tell

# ¿ Jan 4, 2015 00:43

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

ESPN released their voting results of eligible HOF voters, and there are some weird results. Like Larry Walker, Sosa, and Sheffield getting zero votes each, but Lee Smith got 3.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...all-fame-ballot

# ¿ Jan 5, 2015 00:06

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

I'm going to start the Hall of Dingers and Strikeouts, wtih blackjack and hookers.

Somewhere Mark Reynolds feels hopeful

# ¿ Jan 6, 2015 00:06

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Gary Sheffield's numbers are way, way below where they should be, but since he was involved with BALCO he's going to fall off eventually.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2015 21:07

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Gunjin posted:

Pedro Gomez is a moron.

He also built his national career on following Bonds around, which makes it all the more ridiculous that he now won't vote for him.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2015 01:56

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Never change Curt. Never change. His last month of stupid comments have been glorious.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2015 22:08

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

euphronius posted:

I guess the one thing that still confuses me is how Smoltz is a first ballot guy.

Also Orel Hershiser fell off the Ballot in 2 years? What the heck.

edit

Kevin Brown fell off in one year?

The Kevin Brown thing is the bigger shame. Meanwhile Jack Morris actually came close to making it.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2015 22:39

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Kundus posted:

Double posting to say that I think things went pretty well with the vote this year. As long as we grade on a curve. People got in, no one fell off, some ups and downs and the race against time remains but the vote was pretty ok.

Yeah it was a slight improvement.

Unfortunately the VC dropped the ball last month.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2015 23:23

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Reformed Pissboy posted:

For better or worse I imagine Manny is going to do a lot better in voting than Sheffield and other comparable players. He won't get in but name recognition goes quite a long way, and he had the good luck of having his negative tests come after the initial big scandals were already out, and likely will have the good luck of a less loaded ballot.

I figure he will get just below what Bonds/Clemens are getting now

# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 03:04

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

One of the guys for Baseball America, I'm not sure if it was JJ Cooper or John Manuel, pointed out that the HOF may be deliberately trying to keep out steroid guys because they are afraid that the more vocal anti-steroid crowd will then stop supporting the Hall and cost them money. I guess it's plausible. But they also brought up that the Hall lost more money again last year despite the election of a large class.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2015 00:09

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Alain Post posted:

Is the HOF losing money currently?

Yes they have been in the red the last few years

# ¿ Jan 10, 2015 07:00

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Everblight posted:

Basically this. If "greenies" and Ty loving Cobb are in the hall (along with players who never had to play against black athletes) then the fact that Piazza used a supplement that wasn't even illegal at the time is being used to keep him out of the hall looks really, really dumb.

And my favorite argument, which is that even if you throw out everything Barry Bonds did after 2000 (don't do this, but whatever) he's still a Hall of Famer.

My favorite thing about the gambling issue is that both Cobb and Tris Speaker almost certainly bet on games but the league gave them a slap on the wrist compared to others like the Black Sox because of who they were.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2015 15:58

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 06:08

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

joshtothemaxx posted:

I am so surprised the HoF itself doesn't speak up at least a little. The BBWAA doesn't do them any pr favors, especially if they're in the red.

Writers have asked them on many occasions to do something, and yeah, the response is to just reduce the time on the ballot. I think it's pretty clear they want to keep Bonds/Clemens/etc out.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 16:18

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