Kommando posted:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australians-should-prepare-for-more-antiterror-raids-afp-chief-20141103-11ge3x.html

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TheMightyHandful posted:

Kommando posted:

Brisgoons

G20 Aftermath Goonmeet.


The weekend after, we assemble at the side of the wreckage of brisbane society and drink to forget.

All in favor say Aye.

The Guardian posted:

Tensions continue to escalate on Australia’s offshore island detention centres, with a further series of assaults on refugees on Nauru and rising disquiet on Manus Island reported by sources.

On the Pacific island of Nauru, an Iranian refugee was stoned and then beaten by a group of local men riding motorcycles on Saturday. They threw rocks and swore at him before beating him and kicking him in the head.

Guardian Australia has seen photos of the man in hospital with one eye swollen shut by bruising and swelling on his head.

On Monday, a resettled refugee who had a job as carpenter on Nauru, was threatened by three local men who told him refugees were not allowed to work. He was told to quit his job or he would be killed next time he went to work. He has quit his job.

Other men have reported having cars swerve at them and being spat on in the street.

These attacks follow an assault last week on four teenage refugees, who are without parents on the island. One of the child refugees was taken to hospital. The four boys have not left their home unaccompanied since the attack.

“ ‘gently caress you, refugee’ is very common slogan these days in Nauru,” one refugee told Guardian Australia.

“The locals spit on refugees in public. They believe that there is not enough space in Nauru for the refugees and locals to live together. They think the refugees are taking the job opportunities and consuming all the resources in Nauru and they want to protect their country.”

Reports that an interpreter from Myanmar had been stabbed on Manus Island on Friday are “completely false”, according to the office of the immigration minister, Scott Morrison.

But Guardian Australia understands from sources on Manus that there have been several confrontations with guards and local contractors over the past month, increased cases of self-harm attempts by detainees, and more assaults by detainees on other detainees.

Each month, several men are choosing to be returned home rather than stay on the island. Several of those choosing to go home have been found by Australia to be refugees and face a “well-founded fear of persecution” if they go home.

One Manus worker told Guardian Australia: “The men say, ‘I am dying here on this island, I might as well go home and die in my own country. I will take the risk.’ And sometimes it is an extreme risk that they will be killed at home.”

“These men have been in detention for 15 months, many of them, they live behind huge fences and they are no closer to a resolution. They are constantly told, ‘Stay here forever, or go home.’

“It’s advertised on signs all over the camps: ‘Missing your family? Talk to IOM (International Organisation for Migration).’ These men despair, they are desperate and, eventually, they just give up and go home, even if they know it’s not safe.”

Kommando posted:

Brisgoons

G20 Aftermath Goonmeet.


The weekend after, we assemble at the side of the wreckage of brisbane society and drink to forget.

All in favor say Aye.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

MysticalMachineGun posted:

d3rt posted:

Ignorant idiot here, how does a royal commission get the go-ahead? Would it need the party in power to agree, or a majority vote in both houses?

thatfatkid posted:

What's to stop the Governor-General from creating a Royal Commission without being requested by the current government? Are there laws in place or is it more a convention type thing?

thatfatkid posted:

What's to stop the Governor-General from creating a Royal Commission without being requested by the current government? Are there laws in place or is it more a convention type thing?

quote:

Without in any way prejudicing, limiting, or derogating from the power of the King, or of the Governor-General, to make or authorise any inquiry, or to issue any commission to make any inquiry, it is hereby enacted and declared that the Governor-General may, by Letters Patent in the name of the King, issue such commissions, directed to such person or persons, as he or she thinks fit, requiring or authorising him or her or them or any of them to make inquiry into and report upon any matter specified in the Letters Patent, and which relates to or is connected with the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth, or any public purpose or any power of the Commonwealth.

Mithranderp posted:

Technically the G-G or Queen can create a Royal Commission of his or her own volition (see "as he or she thinks fit"), but it'd be very odd to do this without the consent of the Government.

Nibbles! posted:

GG's act on the advice of the government. The day they start acting on their own volition would see them dismissed or us becoming a republic very quickly.

Nibbles! posted:

GG's act on the advice of the government. The day they start acting on their own volition would see them dismissed or us becoming a republic very quickly.

Nibbles! posted:

GG's act on the advice of the government. The day they start acting on their own volition would see them dismissed or us becoming a republic very quickly.

thatfatkid posted:

An independent GG actually doing their job and overseeing the Australian government doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

thatfatkid posted:

An independent GG actually doing their job and overseeing the Australian government doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

It sounds like a recipe for a constitutional crisis to me.

Mithranderp posted:

The problem is, they are an unelected ceremonial Head of State, and running around doing things "for the greater good" would be all well and good, but it's not democracy.

thatfatkid posted:

The keyword being independent.


Yeah and?

thatfatkid posted:

The keyword being independent.


Yeah and?

Kommando posted:

Brisgoons

G20 Aftermath Goonmeet.


The weekend after, we assemble at the side of the wreckage of brisbane society and drink to forget.

All in favor say Aye.

Murodese posted:

What date is this?

thatfatkid posted:

The keyword being independent.

CrazyTolradi posted:

I don't think you understand how this system works. The current GG would never do anything you're suggesting, nor would any other GG likely even consider the course of action. They are purely a ceremonial role that is appointed by the goverment. Think about that before your next reply.

thatfatkid posted:

Yes i'm aware that the role of GG now is to rubberstamp whatever the current government wants. However they still do have real power, they just simply choose not to use it as it would be career suicide. What i was getting at is that maybe they should use their powers for the benefit of the nation i.e. creating a Royal Commission of their own volition into the handling of asylum seekers arriving by boat, as as it stands now neither the ALP or LNP will ever request such a thing as they would both be pretty hosed.

Mithranderp posted:

The problem is, they are an unelected ceremonial Head of State, and running around doing things "for the greater good" would be all well and good, but it's not democracy.

quote:

Sixty three per cent of voters believe that severe bushfires and extreme weather events like floods and cyclones will increase in coming years, while 33% believe they will remain at around the same level. Just 1% believe they will reduce in frequency. Even Coalition voters, traditionally reluctant to accept climate change, agree: 49% of Coalition voters say extreme weather events will increase in coming years compared to 47% who believe they will stay at around the same level. Women are also more likely to say they are increasing than men, 68% to 56%. Moreover, 57% of voters believe the increasing frequency of extreme weather is linked to climate change, compared to 27% who don't believe there's any connection. This includes 43% of Coalition voters who believe there's a connection, compared to 42% who don't think there's a connection. Sixty eight per cent of Labor voters believe there's a connection, and 88% of Greens voters.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Yeah, democracy is the torture, refouling and effective murder of refugees! It's what the people want!

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Yeah, democracy is the torture, refouling and effective murder of refugees! It's what the people want!

Quantum Mechanic posted:

So the alternative is to hand power over to the unelected representative of a person who came out of the correct vagina?

I mean, yeah, in this situation it might turn out to accomplish something we're happy about. Maybe. Assuming the GG even wants to step in with a Royal Commission. And in return, all we have to do is go back to effective monarchy.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Yeah, democracy is the torture, refouling and effective murder of refugees! It's what the people want!

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I was simply saying that the current treatment of refugees is something that the vast majority of the Australian public is content with and we can see that from the broad support that the Labor and Liberal parties enjoy. If one approves of the Australian model of government then surely one must approve of what results from it, yes?