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Leon Einstein posted:Did you forget that the Lions had the division all but handed to them last year and they still hosed it up? I'm sure there were some people in this thread that forgot that those Lions were coached by Jim, not Jim.
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Brannock posted:I'm sure there were some people in this thread that forgot that those Lions were coached by Jim, not Jim. They do have a great team though.
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Here's a look at the SoS rankings. The NFCW and AFCW has the toughest scheduling (they play each other) and the AFCN and NFCN have the easiest (they play the NFCS).pre:Team SoS W SoS L SoS % ---- ----- ----- ----- OAK 87 58 0.600 STL 81 65 0.555 NYJ 80 65 0.552 SEA 79.5 67.5 0.541 NYG 79 70 0.530 S.F 79 67 0.541 JAX 77.5 70.5 0.524 CHI 76.5 70.5 0.520 BUF 76 70 0.521 ARI 76 70 0.521 CIN 74.5 75.5 0.497 DEN 74.5 70.5 0.514 S.D 74 73 0.503 Was 74 73 0.503 N.E 73.5 72.5 0.503 TEN 73.5 77.5 0.487 MIA 73 75 0.493 K.C 73 73 0.500 CAR 72.5 73.5 0.497 IND 71.5 78.5 0.477 G.B 71.5 74.5 0.490 ATL 71.5 76.5 0.483 PHI 70.5 79.5 0.470 N.O 70.5 78.5 0.473 T.B 70.5 78.5 0.473 BAL 69.5 78.5 0.470 MIN 68.5 78.5 0.466 DAL 68 79 0.463 PIT 67.5 81.5 0.453 DET 67.5 78.5 0.462 HOU 66.5 83.5 0.443 CLE 64.5 85.5 0.430 pre:Team Ovr W Ovr L Ovr % SoV W SoV L SoV % ---- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ARI 8 1 0.889 33 41 0.446 DEN 7 2 0.778 32 32 0.500 S.F 5 4 0.556 27 19 0.587 K.C 6 3 0.667 27 28 0.491 DET 7 2 0.778 27 37 0.422 N.E 7 2 0.778 26.5 37.5 0.414 PIT 6 4 0.600 26.5 30.5 0.465 PHI 7 2 0.778 23.5 42.5 0.356 DAL 7 3 0.700 23 41 0.359 SEA 6 3 0.667 22.5 33.5 0.402 IND 6 3 0.667 21.5 34.5 0.384 BAL 6 4 0.600 21.5 34.5 0.384 BUF 5 4 0.556 21 25 0.457 G.B 6 3 0.667 20.5 35.5 0.366 CLE 6 3 0.667 18.5 36.5 0.336 CIN 5.5 3.5 0.611 18 30 0.375 MIA 5 4 0.556 16 30 0.348 N.O 4 5 0.444 14.5 22.5 0.392 S.D 5 4 0.556 14 33 0.298 STL 3 6 0.333 12 15 0.444 CAR 3.5 6.5 0.350 11 16 0.407 NYG 3 6 0.333 10 18 0.357 CHI 3 6 0.333 10 18 0.357 Was 3 7 0.300 10 19 0.345 MIN 4 5 0.444 10 27 0.270 HOU 4 5 0.444 10 27 0.270 TEN 2 7 0.222 7 12 0.368 NYJ 2 8 0.200 6 13 0.316 JAX 1 9 0.100 6 3 0.667 ATL 3 6 0.333 6 21 0.222 T.B 1 8 0.111 6 4 0.600 OAK 0 9 0.000 0 0 0.000
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Brannock posted:I'm sure there were some people in this thread that forgot that those Lions were coached by Jim, not Jim. And they won by accidentally icing their own kicker plus getting bailed out by the Saints' totally inexplicable playcalling. I'm glad they're doing better and that the North has a good shot at sending two teams to the playoffs, but let's not act like they're an unstoppable force or anything.
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Thanks for this, it puts numbers to a discussion I was actually having earlier today. It feels like the Packers are a REALLY weak 6-3 (1-3 against teams over .500) and only look as good as they do because they've put up 4 blowouts against lovely teams (MIN, CAR, CHIx2). The second weakest SoV amongst 6-win teams makes that a lot more convincing. The only thing that makes me optimistic about this is the fact that all four of the decent-to-good teams the Packers have played thus far were on the road (L@SEA, L@DET, W@MIA, L@NO). The Eagles are coming to town next, and I think that might be a very good measuring stick for what to expect, especially since the Patriots will be coming soon after.
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Fenrir posted:Thanks for this, it puts numbers to a discussion I was actually having earlier today. It feels like the Packers are a REALLY weak 6-3 (1-3 against teams over .500) and only look as good as they do because they've put up 4 blowouts against lovely teams (MIN, CAR, CHIx2). The second weakest SoV amongst 6-win teams makes that a lot more convincing. It'll be a good measuring stick for both teams. The Eagles are also 1-2 against teams with winning records (beat Colts, lost to Niners and Cardinals) and while they have a great point differential I'm excited/nervous to see how they do against someone they really ought to be beating if they have a chance at a Super Bowl. The Packers are in the same bus. If they beat the Eagles not only do they improve their record but they're also proving that they're a better team than people thought.
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RASHIBA WALLACE posted:Thanks as always for making this thread! Indispensable. It's actually 9, but your point stands. I think the difference is at the very top, the NFC is EXTREMELY strong. If you picked one name out of the AFCN hat and said "this team makes the playoffs and the other three miss" you go "well yeah, they're good but flawed I can see it. The AFCN is crazy." If the season ended today, the Packers miss the playoffs. That's nearly unfathomable to me. Shame about the NFC South, really. Everyone root for the bizzaro version of 2010 Saints-Seahawks.
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Blitz7x posted:This... This is the worst chart I am very sorry for the unrelenting bad news I will bring you, Toymachine, and the other Raiders fans in the coming weeks. Positive spin: The Raiders were competitive, or within one score, in several matches so far (Patriots, Seahawks, etc). Against an easier schedule you may have ended up 4-12 and drafted fifth. With this tough schedule you get to (a) earn a high (possibly 1st) pick while developing the younger players, and (b) save* your easier schedules for a future year when that youth development in producing on-field results. * - Caveat: future SoS is blindfolded darts, but it can't get much tougher than this!
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Based on the voting, higher votes = home team: The most desired AFC Championship: Buffalo @ Cleveland 2nd most desired AFC Championship: New England @ Denver The nobody cares AFC Championship: Houston vs Miami The most desired NFC Championship: Detroit @ Arizona 2nd most desired NFC Championship: Green Bay @ Philadelphia The nobody cares NFC Championship: New Orleans @ Carolina Get hyped for possible NFC Championship previews this weekend I guess! Over 60% of voters have made Cleveland one of their four choices. Don't let the world down now, Browns.
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kalensc posted:Over 60% of voters have made Cleveland one of their four choices. Don't let the world down now, Browns. Well, if there were a Super Bowl of letting people down, the Browns would be a dynasty.
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Div NFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Conference Results -- --- ---- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- 01 Ari 09-1 2-0 7-0 Wstl Wdet @Sea @Atl vK.C @StL vSea @S.F W-Phi,Dal,Det,S.F 02 Det 07-3 2-0 5-2 Wmia Lari @N.E vChi vT.B vMin @Chi @G.B W-G.B,N.O L-Ari 03 Phi 07-3 2-0 4-3 Wcar Lg.b vTen @Dal vSea vDal @Was @NYG L-Ari,S.F, G.B 04 Atl 04-6 4-0 4-4 Wt.b Wcar vCle vAri @G.B vPit @N.O vCar W-N.O L-Min,NYG,Chi,Det 05 G.B 07-3 3-1 5-3 Wchi Wphi @Min vN.E vAtl @Buf @T.B vDet W-Min,Chi,Phi L-Det,Sea,N.O 05 Dal 07-3 1-1 4-3 Wjax .bye @NYG vPhi @Chi @Phi vInd @Was W-Sea,N.O L-Ari,S.F S.F 06-4 1-2 5-3 Wn.o Wnyg vWas vSea @Oak @Sea vS.D vAri W-Dal,Phi L-Ari,Chi,StL Sea 06-4 0-1 4-2 Wnyg Lk.c vAri @S.F @Phi vS.F @Ari vStL W-G.B L-Dal,StL N.O 04-6 2-1 4-4 Ls.f Lcin vBal @Pit vCar @Chi vAtl @T.B W-G.B L-Dal,Det,S.F Chi 04-6 1-2 2-3 Lg.b Wmin vT.B @Det vDal vN.O vDet @Min W-S.F,Atl,Min L-G.B Min 04-6 0-3 4-4 .bye Lchi vG.B vCar vNYJ @Det @Mia vChi W-StL,Was,Atl L-Det,G.B,N.O,Chi StL 04-6 2-2 3-5 Lari Wden @S.D vOak @Was vAri vNYG @Sea W-Sea,S.F,T.B Car 03*7 1-2 3-5 Lphi Latl .bye @Min @N.O vT.B vCle @Atl NYG 03-7 1-2 2-6 Lsea Ls.f vDal @Jax @Ten vWas @StL vPhi W-Was,Atl Was 03-7 1-2 1-6 .bye Lt.b @S.F @Ind vStL @NYG vPhi vDal L-NYG,Min,T.B T.B 02-8 0-4 1-6 Latl Wwas @Chi vCin @Det @Car vG.B vN.O W-Was L-StL,Atl  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O NFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Phi 07-3 2-0 4-2 4-3 Wcar Lg.b vTen @Dal vSea vDal @Was @NYG Dal-?? NYG-W? Was-W? Dal 07-3 1-1 5-2 4-3 Wjax .bye @NYG vPhi @Chi @Phi vInd @Was NYG-W? Phi-?? Was-L? NYG 03-7 1-2 1-4 2-6 Lsea Ls.f vDal @Jax @Ten vWas @StL vPhi Dal-L? Phi-L? Was-W? Was 03-7 1-2 2-3 1-6 .bye Lt.b @S.F @Ind vStL @NYG vPhi vDal Dal-W? NYG-L? Phi-L? Common Opponents: NFC West, AFC South Dallas Cowboys: See Philly's breakdown. To surpass the Eagles the Cowboys either need to sweep the H2H series, or win more than Phi in the other two div matches, or win more than Phi in the out-of-division games. New York Giants: They'll need to win out, and hope Dallas and Philly split their games, and then lose almost all of the others. It's time to scout the draft. Washington Footballers: They'll need to win out, and hope Dallas and Philly split their games, and then lose almost all of the others. .It's time to scout the draft.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O NFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Det 07-3 2-0 4-2 5-2 Wmia Lari @N.E vChi vT.B vMin @Chi @G.B Chi-?? G.B-W? Min-W? G.B 07-3 3-1 3-1 5-3 Wchi Wphi @Min vN.E vAtl @Buf @T.B vDet Chi-W? Det-L? Min-WW Chi 04-6 1-2 2-4 3-3 Lg.b Wmin vT.B @Det vDal vN.O vDet @Min Det-?? G.B-LL Min-W? Min 04-6 0-3 2-3 4-4 .bye Lchi vG.B vCar vNYJ @Det @Mia vChi Chi-L? Det-L? G.B-L? Common Opponents: NFC South, AFC East Green Bay: Two divisional and four C.O games remain and it is highly possible the NFCN will be decided by tie-breakers. If they can win @Min then they lock up a 4-1 NFCN record heading into vDet. If they can also maintain a 1+ game lead in C.O record, and match the Lions win for win, then the vDet game becomes win-and-in. Chicago: The Bears stabilized a bit with a win vs the Vikings, and they need a repeat performance vs the Bucs to have a glimmer of hope before their tough Lions and Cowboys matches. Minnesota: Any hopes of a surprise playoff push hinge on winning vG.B next week. Losing that would put them in "look to the draft" mode.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O NFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Atl 04-6 4-0 0-5 4-4 Wt.b Wcar vCle vAri @G.B vPit @N.O vCar Car-W? N.O-W? T.B-W? N.O 04-6 2-1 2-3 4-4 Ls.f Lcin vBal @Pit vCar @Chi vAtl @T.B Atl-L? Car-W? T.B-W? Car 03*7 1-2 2*3 3-5 Lphi Latl .bye @Min @N.O vT.B vCle @Atl Atl-L? N.O-L? T.B W? T.B 02-8 0-4 1-3 1-6 Latl Wwas @Chi vCin @Det @Car vG.B vN.O Atl-L? Car-L? N.O-L? Common Opponents: NFC North, AFC North New Orleans: Two home losses have the Saints tumbling to second in the division. They have 4 sub-.500 opponents left vs Atlanta's 2, so if N.O can win vAtl they have the easier path to the NFCS title. 7-9 should be enough given those facts. Carolina: One win in the last nine games, a malfunctioning offense, and an employed Shula. If the AFCN can beat Atl and N.O next week though, they'll still only be a half-game behind, and 4 sub-.500 opponents remain. Tampa Bay: Despite being only two games out, their terrible divisional record and the remaining Atl@N.O match makes their hopes quite slim.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O NFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Ari 09-1 2-0 7-1 7-0 Wstl Wdet @Sea @Atl vK.C @StL vSea @S.F S.F-W? Sea-?? StL-?? S.F 06-4 1-2 4-1 4-3 Wn.o Wnyg vWas vSea @Oak @Sea vS.D vAri Ari-L? Sea-?? StL-WL Sea 06-4 0-1 4-3 4-2 Wnyg Lk.c vAri @S.F @Phi vS.F @Ari vStL Ari-?? S.F-?? StL-L? StL 04-6 2-2 1-3 3-5 Lari Wden @S.D vOak @Was vAri vNYG @Sea Ari-?? S.F-WL Sea-W? Common Opponents: NFC East, AFC West San Francisco 49ers: Another win over a team they were expected to beat, although it was closer than it should have been considering the turnovers. With 2 NFCW losses already on the boards, their push for the division title essentially requires them to win out in-division and hope Ari drops another NFCW game to Sea or StL. Seattle Seahawks: After a close loss they head home to face the 9-1 Cards before a tough road swing @S.F and @Phi. If they can sweep the Cards and win @S.F they have a great shot at the division though, so a three-game deficit is not quite a nail in the coffin. St.Louis Rams: Another shocking upset, if only they could beat the lower-ranked squads. 5 games out of the divison lead and 3 games behind the 6th Seed, they appear likely for a pick in the teens.
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Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- N.E 08-2 2-1 4-1 6-2 .bye Wind vDet @G.B @S.D vMia @NYJ vBuf Buf-W? Mia-L? NYJ-W? Mia 06-4 2-1 3-3 5-2 Ldet Wbuf @Den @NYJ vBal @N.E vMin vNYJ Buf-LW N.E-W? NYJ-?? Buf 05-5 2-2 3-2 2-5 Lk.c Lmia @NYJ vCle @Den vG.B @Oak @N.E Mia-WL N.E-L? NYJ-W? NYJ 02-8 0-2 1-6 2-5 Wpit .bye @Buf vMia @Min @Ten vN.E @Mia Buf-L? Mia-?? N.E-L? Common Opponents: AFC West, NFC North Miami Dolphins: The Colts couldn't do much to help, so Miami is still much more likely to qualify via Wild Card than as AFCE champion. Denver looks mortal all of a sudden though, and New England does have three tough opponents lined up, so there's still hope. Buffalo Bills: While 5-5 would lead the NFCS by a full game, the Bills are currently 12th in the AFC and have terrible tie-breaker stats. 5-1 finish is all but required to sniff the playoffs. New York Jets: The upset win over the Steelers causes some AFCN and Wild Card chaos but doesn't do much for the Jets besides harm their draft position.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Cin 06*3 2-1 4*1 4-3 Lcle Wn.o @Hou @T.B vPit @Cle vDen @Pit Bal-WW Cle-L? Pit-?? Bal 06-4 2-3 4-1 3-4 Wten .bye @N.O vS.D @Mia vJax @Hou vCle Cin-LL Cle-W? Pit-WL Pit 06-4 2-2 4-2 5-3 Lnyj @Ten .bye vN.O @Cin @Atl vK.C vCin Bal-WL Cin-?? Cle-WL Cle 06-4 2-2 3-2 4-4 Wcin Lhou @Atl @Buf vInd vCin @Car @Bal Bal-L? Cin-W? Pit-WL Common Opponents: AFC South, NFC South Pittsburgh Steelers: Pending MNF. Baltimore: Not bad for a bye week with their rivals going 1-1 so far. A trip to Louisiana is potentially not as bad as we thought a few weeks ago, what with the Niners and Bengals leaving town with a W. Cleveland Browns: From first to last in one Sunday, ouch. Still just a half-game back though, with two winnable road games coming up. Every team has 2-3 games left vs sub-.500 opponents, so it should take 10+ wins to win this division.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Ind 06-4 3-0 3-2 5-3 .bye Ln.e vJax vWas @Cle vHou @Dal @Ten Hou-W? Jax-W? Ten-W? Hou 05-5 1-1 2-4 4-2 .bye Wcle vCin vTen @Jax @Ind vBal vJax Ind-L? Jax-?? Ten-W? Ten 02-7 1-2 0-5 2-5 Lbal vPit @Phi @Hou vNYG vNYJ @Jax vInd Hou-L? Ind-L? Jax-W? Jax 01-9 0-2 1-5 1-6 Ldal .bye @Ind vNYG vHou @Bal vTen @Hou Hou-?? Ind-L? Ten-L? Common Opponents: AFC North, NFC East Houston Texans: A small but great step was taken in Week 11. Now they have two home games which they'll need to sweep when you consider the Colts' opponents. Tennessee Titans: Pending MNF. Jacksonville Jaguars: Hopefully Bortles makes some strides to finish the season. Top-3 pick is quite possible although their high SoS means they lose draft tie-breakers.  pre:Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Divisional Results --- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------- Den 07-3 3-0 3-3 5-1 Woak Lstl vMia @K.C vBuf @S.D @Cin vOak K.C-W? Oak-W? S.D-W? K.C 07-3 1-1 6-1 5-2 Wbuf Wsea @Oak vDen @Ari vOak @Pit vS.D Den-L? Oak-?? S.D-W? S.D 06-4 2-2 3-2 5-3 .bye Woak vStL @Bal vN.E vDen @S.F @K.C Den-L? K.C-L? Oak-W? Common Opponents: AFC East, NFC West Eliminated: Oakland (Wk11) Kansas City Chiefs: They were more or less here one year ago, tied in record with the Broncos with another H2H match upcoming. Still, besides the Oakland games, you have 4 division leaders/contenders left to play. San Diego Chargers: The door opened a crack with Denver's loss. S.D is in bad shape vs Denver in divisional tie-breakers and in bad shape vs K.C in C.O tie-breakers. They'll likely need to finish 5-1 or better and get help (or 4-2 and get tons of help), which is a tough path considering their schedule. Oakland Raiders: Eliminated from playoff contention. Blitz7x posted:When you go to write up the Raiders just post a bunch of pics of buttholes close up, same thing 
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Man, the AFC North is crazy. I can't remember the last time I saw all 4 teams in a division so close this late in a season. e: Speaking of which, I know this is splitting hairs but I'm curious about the tiebreak procedure here: kalensc posted:
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Fenrir posted:Man, the AFC North is crazy. I can't remember the last time I saw all 4 teams in a division so close this late in a season. Since Cleveland is also 6-4, the 3-way tie-breaker is applied. In Bal-Cle, Cle-Pit, Bal-Pit games (i.e. toss out Cincy results) the three teams are: Bal: 2-1 Pit: 2-2 Cle: 1-2 Cleveland really needs to beat Baltimore latee this year if the three teams stay this close.
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Go Bolts. December Bullshit owns.
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kalensc posted:Since Cleveland is also 6-4, the 3-way tie-breaker is applied. Oh poo poo, that's right. I forgot there's a different tiebreak for three teams in the same division. Thanks, that had me confused there.
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kalensc posted:Since Cleveland is also 6-4, the 3-way tie-breaker is applied. Pit will finish 2-4 in the division.
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Eifert Posting posted:Pit will finish 2-4 in the division. What if one of them gets flexed to primetime?
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Fenrir posted:Man, the AFC North is crazy. I can't remember the last time I saw all 4 teams in a division so close this late in a season. The record for this sort of thing is, I think, the 1987 AFC East, which had 5 teams at the time. All five teams in the division were 5-5 after week 10.
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Fenrir posted:Man, the AFC North is crazy. I can't remember the last time I saw all 4 teams in a division so close this late in a season. 2011 AFC West. 1. Denver 8-8 2. San Diego 8-8 3. Oakland 8-8 4. Kansas City 7-9
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:2011 AFC West. Similarly, 2002 AFC East: 1. Jets 9-7 2. Patriots 9-7 3. Dolphins 9-7 4. Bills 8-8
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kalensc posted:What if one of them gets flexed to primetime? Well I'm glad you asked. 1. I'm pretty sure one or both has been protected by CBS. 2. Prime-time Bengals are the worst team in league history, and the worse a team is the more likely it is to beat the Steelers.
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I want the Bengals to either win the north, or be out of the playoff picture completely so they don't gently caress things up with that stupid tie
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:I want the Bengals to either win the north, or be out of the playoff picture completely so they don't gently caress things up with that stupid tie Ties in the NFL are the best and the Bengal's tie can only make things infinitely better.
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Ties are stupid and show one of the few things the NCAA is doing better than the NFL.
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Looking at the NFC North race and trying to predict it... Detroit loses at New England (I find it very unlikely the Lions offense can keep up with Tom Brady and company, especially given performance thus far -- Detroit also has performed poorly on the road against good teams this year and last year), wins against Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Minnesota, then loses at Chicago in a squeaker where the Bears simultaneously pointlessly wreck their draft position and the hopes of a division rival. They'll be 10-5 going into the Green Bay game. 11-4 if they roll the weaker teams like they should. These Lions, however, got shut down by the Panthers, lost against the Bills, and needed miracles to beat the Saints and Falcons. I'm not yet seeing the consistency here to expect them to go 4-0 over that stretch of weak teams. Green Bay wins at Minnesota in another probable blowout, loses at home against the Patriots, comes back and annihilates the Falcons... I'm expecting them to lose on the road in Buffalo almost solely on the strength of Buffalo's defense. All year it's been evident that the only way you're going to be able to beat Aaron Rodgers is by being able to get pressure with four (or fewer) rushers and using your extra man to cover. Rodgers is nearly impossible to blitz, he's too elusive and he's too quick with making accurate decisions, he'll punish a blitz nearly every time by finding the open receiver. Tampa Bay should be another easy win on the road. That makes Green Bay 10-5 going into the final match at Lambeau against the Lions. This makes that game for the division crown. You know, let's say Detroit beats the Bears on the road and comes into the match 11-4: a win over the Packers delivers them most likely the bye as well as the division. A loss against the Packers in that situation brings tiebreakers into play. Because, in this situation, Green Bay and Detroit both went 5-1 in the division, tiebreaker goes to common opponents. In the situation I've drawn up here, they're also tied in common opponents, being 5-3 each. They're also tied for conference record in this case (9-3), which sends the tiebreaker procedure to Strength of Victory, which we can't really calculate at this point. I don't know if a division winner has ever been decided by this many tiebreakers before, which makes me want to cheer for maximum chaos and have Detroit lose to the Patriots and Packers but win out, and the Packers lose to the Patriots and Bills but win out. This also makes the next two weeks very important for the NFC North as Detroit plays at New England this Sunday, and the Patriots travel to Lambeau the next Sunday. The Patriots going 1-1 would have huge implications on the race for the division, if they go 2-0 or 0-2 then it's a wash.
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Dolphins aren't in that bad of a position. Yes, we play the Broncos this weekend, but we are 5-2 in Conference currently. San Diego, right behind us, are currently 5-3. So if we somehow wind up with the same record in Conference we would beat them based on head to head. Pittsburgh doesn't have that bad of a schedule to close out the season. Where as the Chiefs still has Denver and Arizona. Also Pitt/KC play each other, so that's 1 more loss for 1 of the wild card teams above us. A lot of people are saying if the Dolphins can beat the Vikings/Jets Twice/Minnesota we should get in. But screw that, we nearly beat Detroit, nearly beat Green Bay, go in strong to Denver and see what we can do this week. New England still has Detroit this week, Green Bay the following week. We seem to always play the Patriots tough, so AFC East isn't out of the picture completely. Going to need some help, and our boys are going to need to show up strong. It's going to be a fun end of the season though. It would be a shame for this team to miss the playoffs with how close they have been to 8-2.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:14
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Yahoo playoff machine thing is out, but for some reason it skips week 12. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario
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Nov 19, 2014 06:42
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ESPN's is up as well. http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine
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Nov 19, 2014 15:58
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It's really striking how Falcons @ Saints and Panthers @ Falcons weeks 16 and 17 might be the entire determination on who goes to the playoffs from the NFC South. And simultaneously for who drafts 8th or 20th.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:11
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OBR posted:ESPN's is up as well. http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine I'm trying to see how bad a shitshow I can turn the NFC South into. Carolina's tie makes it easy to work with, since you can evade tiebreakers altogether by tanking the Falcons and Saints:   And y'all thought it was bad when a 7-win team went to the playoffs  I can't figure out a way to keep it at 5 wins though. It's gonna have to be 6-9-1 to work. Maybe I could tank the Panthers and get a 6-10 in. e: Got it. I thought having the Bucs beat the Panthers in week 15 would gently caress it up but nope: 
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Nov 19, 2014 16:15
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Man, I could play with that playoff machine a lot. Even if KC wins @OAK and vDEN in the next two weeks, it's still a long road to winning the AFC West, since apparently Broncos are going to have a better % of games in common won. Gonna be a brutal final 6 weeks. And I love it. E: I had a possible KC v IND AFC title game for a second, but I can't remember how I did it. KC v IND winner takes on ARI v GB/DAL Winner. That would be a good month of football.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:20
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Make it happen.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:24
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The best part about that is you can also change the Saints to 5-11 by giving them a win over the Steelers in week 13, thus creating a way to send everyone in the AFC North *except* the Steelers to the playoffs, and give the Browns a first round bye  Hear me, football gods, HEAR ME! Fenrir fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 16:38
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Fenrir posted:The best part about that is you can also change the Saints to 5-11 by giving them a win over the Steelers in week 13, thus creating a way to send everyone in the AFC North *except* the Steelers to the playoffs, and give the Browns a first round bye I would probably die of happiness.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:53
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Here it is guys, my masterpiece. Behold! No Steelers, Broncos or Patriots. Browns bitch. And the NFC South still puts out a 5-win team. Get the gently caress in e: it seems to have eaten a game in there somewhere, but I don't think anything would change, I didn't need tiebreakers at all, really.
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I made something beautiful. Only the Rams, Chiefs and Dolphins have won a Super Bowl.
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