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vyst: Aug 25, 2009

JK that poo poo is like $250 a month enjoy bankruptcy you jobless heathens.

Thanks, Obama (proprietor of healthcare.guv)

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:18

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Wooten: Oct 4, 2004

If you get the tax credit it's like $60 a month. Of course if you qualify for the tax credit you can probably get medicaid, unless you live in a red state.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:19

Frog Act: Feb 10, 2012

i'm on my parents insurance for a year and four months and then i'm probably gonna die

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:20

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

Wooten posted:

If you get the tax credit it's like $60 a month. Of course if you qualify for the tax credit you can probably get medicaid, unless you live in a red state.

yea you have to be crazy poor to get the tax credit

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:22

Idiot Kicker: Jun 13, 2007

My health care is legit cheap because of the plan but I think it's going to go way up next year.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:24

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

Idiot Kicker posted:

My health care is legit cheap because of the plan but I think it's going to go way up next year.

Yea my plan went up $400 this year for no explicable reason I can see.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:36

SurfinArbiter: Jul 3, 2013; Y
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thank you obama

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:48

roymorrison: Jul 26, 2005

I retired from the Army and I get tricare standard for like 200 bucks a YEAR or something and that poo poo pays for EVERYTHING haha I'm assuming it's what universal healthcare would be like and let me tell you it is p loving nice

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:50

SurfinArbiter: Jul 3, 2013; Y
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roymorrison posted:

I retired from the Army and I get tricare standard for like 200 bucks a YEAR or something and that poo poo pays for EVERYTHING haha I'm assuming it's what universal healthcare would be like and let me tell you it is p loving nice

yea but the thing is people from the army are actually respected in ~~this world~~ America, as far as I know

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:51

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

The thing i never understood about the whole healthcare debate in us politics was that the gop seemed to paint it as nothing Death panelsor nothing.
We habe nhs death panels in the uk but we still have private healthcare for ri h bourgie cunts who can afford that.

How did your dems fail to sell the idea of 'free healthcare for everybody, private for whoever wants + can pay'? Everyfuckers wins.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:51

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

SurfinArbiter posted:

yea but the thing is people from the army are actually respected in ~~this world~~ America, as far as I know

not really.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:54

ElectricSheep: Jan 14, 2006; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

thank mister obamba

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:58

Haverchuck: May 6, 2005; the coolest

Oberleutnant posted:

The thing i never understood about the whole healthcare debate in us politics was that the gop seemed to paint it as nothing Death panelsor nothing.
We habe nhs death panels in the uk but we still have private healthcare for ri h bourgie cunts who can afford that.

How did your dems fail to sell the idea of 'free healthcare for everybody, private for whoever wants + can pay'? Everyfuckers wins.

muslim socialest

# ? Nov 15, 2014 20:58

Lil Swamp Booger Baby: Aug 1, 1981

My job gives me health poo poo.
I also get these weird discount cards for medication but I can't use them if my healthcare already covers it which 90% of the time it does.
If anything my employer over does it, which is bizarro world poo poo.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:00

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

I had to go into hospital a couple weeks back with concussion and the whole thing from seeing my family dr to the hospital bed, ct scans, ecg, needles full of whoknowswhat cost £0.00.

I legit feel sadness for anybody who lives in a country without universal healthcare. Like your govt takes hundreds of billions of dollars off you every year for warplanes but tells you to go gently caress yourself for the few measly billion it'd cost to ensure you don't destroy your financial future because of a heart attack or broken leg.

poo poo's hosed.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:07

ashgromnies: Jun 19, 2004

hmmm my premiums went up since the ACA

thanks obama

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:09

ashgromnies: Jun 19, 2004

hahaha but to be fair they were going up before the ACA too

thanks health care industry

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:09

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

ashgromnies posted:

hahaha but to be fair they were going up before the ACA too

thanks health care industry

the real cosa nostra

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:12

Whatev: Jan 19, 2007; unfading

Oberleutnant posted:

The thing i never understood about the whole healthcare debate in us politics was that the gop seemed to paint it as nothing Death panelsor nothing.
We habe nhs death panels in the uk but we still have private healthcare for ri h bourgie cunts who can afford that.

How did your dems fail to sell the idea of 'free healthcare for everybody, private for whoever wants + can pay'? Everyfuckers wins.

The Dems weren't trying to do free healthcare for everybody. The Affordable Care Act passed and is mostly implemented now. It was basically a band-aid for an axe wound sorta bill that didn't seek to reform the broken fundamentals of our system and did not do much to control costs

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:45

Julius CSAR: Oct 3, 2007; by sebmojo

Thank you all who pay taxes so I get my vet benefit check every month and my VA health care.

No really, seriously thank you, I couldn't live without it.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:49

nnnotime: Sep 30, 2001; Hesitate, and you will be lost.

Here's how I see it from my narrow perspectives:

* My elderly mother has an array of confusing options to pick from for her medicare. I've been struggling to help her make a choice for the past three month and with no clear winner. Her premiums will go down but she has to pick an HMO that is newly formed by the local health care system she prefers. A private exchange (through retiree benefits) was offering her another plan but we found out last week that none of her doctors or providers will accept the Exchange plan (which the Exchange guy did not warn us to initially check on: good thing I looked before she decides);

* My own health insurance through my company is basically unaffected by all this mess. Dunno, maybe my monthly contribution goes up a little? Don't really care if it goes up in price for me since company helps pay for it;

* A younger colleague I know at work is raging against the machine and not even signing up for the corporate-subsidized health insurance, and doesn't mind paying the IRS tax penalty for not doing so. Maybe he is really an immortal person or has mutant healing powers he has not disclosed to the rest of us;

The whole new system is screwed up, with people have to live for a year with mistaken choices on their upcoming plans, and even then may not get everything sorted out next year. Then the Congress and the Senate will kill funding and things will get screwed up even further.

Wish I had invested in health care exchange and Big Pharma stocks before the Affordable Health Care act was implemented, that would have been the best decision.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:51

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

obama is a piece of poo poo and obamacare should be repealed unironically

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:51

Whatev: Jan 19, 2007; unfading

nnnotime posted:

Here's how I see it from my narrow perspectives:

* My elderly mother has an array of confusing options to pick from for her medicare. I've been struggling to help her make a choice for the past three month and with no clear winner. Her premiums will go down but she has to pick an HMO that is newly formed by the local health care system she prefers. A private exchange (through retiree benefits) was offering her another plan but we found out last week that none of her doctors or providers will accept the Exchange plan (which the Exchange guy did not warn us to initially check on: good thing I looked before she decides);

* My own health insurance through my company is basically unaffected by all this mess. Dunno, maybe my monthly contribution goes up a little? Don't really care if it goes up in price for me since company helps pay for it;

* A younger colleague I know at work is raging against the machine and not even signing up for the corporate-subsidized health insurance, and doesn't mind paying the IRS tax penalty for not doing so. Maybe he is really an immortal person or has mutant healing powers he has not disclosed to the rest of us;

The whole new system is screwed up, with people have to live for a year with mistaken choices on their upcoming plans, and even then may not get everything sorted out next year. Then the Congress and the Senate will kill funding and things will get screwed up even further.

Wish I had invested in health care exchange and Big Pharma stocks before the Affordable Health Care act was implemented, that would have been the best decision.

You know you've got a good healthcare bill when the health insurance industry is actually lobbying FOR it.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:53

LethalGeek: Nov 4, 2009

I honestly don't even loving know anymore what to think about this

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:57

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

ashgromnies posted:

hahaha but to be fair they were going up before the ACA too

thanks health care industry

Yeah, health plan costs were going up for years were I worked and everyone would rant about the company passing on costs to the employees. Now the ACA comes along and now it's Obama's fault things cost more than the previous year.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:03

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Wooten posted:

If you get the tax credit it's like $60 a month. Of course if you qualify for the tax credit you can probably get medicaid, unless you live in a red state.

"Review the table below with your eligibility results. XXXX XXXXXXXX - Based on the information you provided, the new federal health care law provides that you could be eligible for free or low cost health care through Medicaid. However, the state of FL has chosen not to offer you this new health care coverage at this time.
You are not required to pay a penalty for not having health insurance because of your income and because the state of FL declined to expand Medicaid to cover individuals in your situation.

Why Don�t I Qualify For Other Programs?
� XXXX XXXXXXXX � Your household's yearly income is too low for a tax credit. Generally, individuals and families whose household income for the year is between 100 percent and 400 percent of the federal poverty line for their family size may be eligible for the tax credit.
� XXXX XXXXXXXX � You don't qualify for Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in your state."

And here I thought I'd be able to get inexpensive/free health insurance as an unemployed student.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:05

Trochanter: Sep 14, 2007; It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

One of my aunts was recently diagnosed with breast cancer, another broke her foot and I had an uncle in-law with stomach cancer.

Thank you Tommy Douglas, for introducing single-payer healthcare to Canada, so that my relative's cancers could be detected and treated early (they're both doing well), and all could get treatment without becoming destitute.

e: also, thanks to my union for insurance that paid for 90% of my physio when I injured my foot running, 100% of my dental and a $200 stipend for glasses per year when I wore them.

e2: socialism owns, I'm going to miss it once the corporations have their way and run their consumers, their workers and ultimately themselves into the loving ground.

Trochanter fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:19

BONE DOG: Jun 7, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Trochanter posted:

One of my aunts was recently diagnosed with breast cancer, another broke her foot and I had an uncle in-law with stomach cancer.

Thank you Tommy Douglas, for introducing single-payer healthcare to Canada, so that my relative's cancers could be detected and treated early (they're both doing well), and all could get treatment without becoming destitute.

e: also, thanks to my union for insurance that paid for 90% of my physio when I injured my foot running, 100% of my dental and a $200 stipend for glasses per year when I wore them.

Canada's healthcare costs are significantly lower than America's per capita as well

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:28

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Oberleutnant posted:

How did your dems fail to sell the idea of 'free healthcare for everybody, private for whoever wants + can pay'? Everyfuckers wins.

I remember that idea being floated out but that probably failed because you can't have the government competing with private companies. That's unfair to the private companies because the government would have a whole bunch of advantages that only they can use. So in other words, the government can provide better and cheaper health care for the masses so it's not fair to make private companies compete with that. They could go out of business and that would be just terrible, let's keep things the way they are.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:36

Trochanter: Sep 14, 2007; It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

Oh yeah, and the union also pays 80% of prescription drugs, which are subsidized by the government. Thanks, union and Canada!

mookface posted:

Canada's healthcare costs are significantly lower than America's per capita as well

And no wonder; unlike people in the States, seeking preventative care isn't an expense, so we treat people cheaply before they clog up emergency rooms with expensive life-threatening problems. We don't have investors demanding insane ROIs on medical investments. Our doctors (I think) are salaried, so there's no impetus to charge for unnecessary tests. Also, our government can negotiate prices for prescription drugs, making them significantly cheaper than down south.

Trochanter fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:39

BONE DOG: Jun 7, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Trochanter posted:

Oh yeah, and the union also pays 80% of prescription drugs, which are subsidized by the government. Thanks, union and Canada!

And no wonder; unlike people in the States, seeking preventative care isn't an expense, so we treat people cheaply before they clog up emergency rooms with expensive life-threatening problems. We don't have investors demanding insane ROIs on medical investments. Our doctors (I think) are salaried, so there's no impetus to charge for unnecessary tests. Also, our government can negotiate prices for prescription drugs, making them significantly cheaper than down south.

Yeah it's pretty sweet. I can get 1500 dollars worth of massages a year.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:47

Whatev: Jan 19, 2007; unfading

Trochanter posted:

Oh yeah, and the union also pays 80% of prescription drugs, which are subsidized by the government. Thanks, union and Canada!

And no wonder; unlike people in the States, seeking preventative care isn't an expense, so we treat people cheaply before they clog up emergency rooms with expensive life-threatening problems. We don't have investors demanding insane ROIs on medical investments. Our doctors (I think) are salaried, so there's no impetus to charge for unnecessary tests. Also, our government can negotiate prices for prescription drugs, making them significantly cheaper than down south.

The ACA did have provisions encouraging preventative care that, of course, often manifest in really backward and hilarious ways. Earlier this years I sliced open a finger cutting a lime like King Idiot of Bitchburg, and I had to get stitched up and a pecked by a tetanus shot. If I had gotten that sultry injection a day earlier, my insurance would have had to have fully paid for it since it was covered preventative care. But now we done had an active situation, so it was like 150 bucks.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 22:55

poverty goat: Feb 15, 2004

I walked into a hospital this past summer due to a hosed up epiglottis infection ( :a2m:

) and because I'm a broke uninsured motherfucker Sentara waived 100% of the bill. Free healthcare, bitches

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:00

Trochanter: Sep 14, 2007; It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

And I'm an idiot for not remembering this, but my niece's birth had complications that required emergency surgery. And she broke her femur last year, which required multiple hospital visits, a full body cast and continuing rehabilitation.

So thanks again to single-payer for letting my niece live a happy childhood, and her parents, me and my immediate family live the last few years without the spectre of medical debt hanging over our heads.

e: and also an aquaintance has breast cancer and is getting treatment; they caught it early and the prognosis is good. Heh. I don't mean to doxx myself or sound like I'm bragging, it's just in retrospect I'm really, really grateful for single-payer healthcare.

Trochanter fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:17

BONE DOG: Jun 7, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Whatev posted:

The ACA did have provisions encouraging preventative care that, of course, often manifest in really backward and hilarious ways. Earlier this years I sliced open a finger cutting a lime like King Idiot of Bitchburg, and I had to get stitched up and a pecked by a tetanus shot. If I had gotten that sultry injection a day earlier, my insurance would have had to have fully paid for it since it was covered preventative care. But now we done had an active situation, so it was like 150 bucks.

I got thrown off a balcony and needed five plates in my face and laproscopic surgery to suck out fluid from my damaged organs and it didn't cost me a dime.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:20

site: Apr 6, 2007; Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Thanks Obie, for allowing me to overcome the preexisting condition problem. Too bad my governor is a shitbag who wouldn't take the expanded Medicaid funds so I pay almost $400 a month whereas my friend who makes $2/hr more than me pays only $70 for the same coverage.

I'm gonna have to drop it this coming year because I can't afford it. It'll actually be cheaper to pay full price for expensive medication than to pay for the insurance that would make the meds essentially free.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:28

Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Sick people aren't equal to us Normies. gently caress them.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:30

BONE DOG: Jun 7, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

site posted:

Thanks Obie, for allowing me to overcome the preexisting condition problem. Too bad my governor is a shitbag who wouldn't take the expanded Medicaid funds so I pay almost $400 a month whereas my friend who makes $2/hr more than me pays only $70 for the same coverage.

I'm gonna have to drop it this coming year because I can't afford it. It'll actually be cheaper to pay full price for expensive medication than to pay for the insurance that would make the meds essentially free.

This sounds like a total failure I am sorry you have to go through that bullshit

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:31

Raere: Dec 13, 2007

my premiums went up by 3.5% this year which is like 75% higher than inflation
why!

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Vladimir Putin: Mar 17, 2007; by R. Guyovich

nnnotime posted:

Here's how I see it from my narrow perspectives:

* My elderly mother has an array of confusing options to pick from for her medicare. I've been struggling to help her make a choice for the past three month and with no clear winner. Her premiums will go down but she has to pick an HMO that is newly formed by the local health care system she prefers. A private exchange (through retiree benefits) was offering her another plan but we found out last week that none of her doctors or providers will accept the Exchange plan (which the Exchange guy did not warn us to initially check on: good thing I looked before she decides);

* My own health insurance through my company is basically unaffected by all this mess. Dunno, maybe my monthly contribution goes up a little? Don't really care if it goes up in price for me since company helps pay for it;

* A younger colleague I know at work is raging against the machine and not even signing up for the corporate-subsidized health insurance, and doesn't mind paying the IRS tax penalty for not doing so. Maybe he is really an immortal person or has mutant healing powers he has not disclosed to the rest of us;

The whole new system is screwed up, with people have to live for a year with mistaken choices on their upcoming plans, and even then may not get everything sorted out next year. Then the Congress and the Senate will kill funding and things will get screwed up even further.

Wish I had invested in health care exchange and Big Pharma stocks before the Affordable Health Care act was implemented, that would have been the best decision.

Prescription drugs is only 10% of all health care spending in the US.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 23:32

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