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Nonsense posted:Even if he's correct in working class whites being totally forever alienated from the Democrats, they continue to shrink as they cease adding to the vote pool. They're working class, anybody of that stripe hardly votes. Dude. You love saying that. Let me ask you this, without googling, how much of the typical presidential electorate (the ones that vote, since only their votes count) is made up of white suburbanites? If your scenario ('working class whites totally forever alienated from the Democrats') comes to fruition, the Democrats will be out of power for a very very long time, and in such a way that they wouldn't have anything to offer their base except lots of pissing and moaning about being powerless. Don't get me wrong, that would be just fine by me, but it is rather grating to hear you repeat over and over again that white voters are an insignificant part of the electorate, or shrinking so fast as to be irrelevant to winning the presidency. It's dumb and you should stop
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Maybe in the Southwest. There are still plenty of seats everywhere else where any policy position more subtle than a hood and a burning cross is perfectly electable. I mean for the Presidency, which is the only thing that matters when it comes to if this program continues. Pauline Kael posted:Dude. You love saying that. Let me ask you this, without googling, how much of the typical presidential electorate (the ones that vote, since only their votes count) is made up of white suburbanites? If your scenario ('working class whites totally forever alienated from the Democrats') comes to fruition, the Democrats will be out of power for a very very long time, and in such a way that they wouldn't have anything to offer their base except lots of pissing and moaning about being powerless. Don't get me wrong, that would be just fine by me, but it is rather grating to hear you repeat over and over again that white voters are an insignificant part of the electorate, or shrinking so fast as to be irrelevant to winning the presidency. It's dumb and you should stop The white suburbanites who are like you already vote Republican. The ones who vote Democratic don't have the same disdain for immigrants and won't suddenly start voting Republican out of racial solidarity.
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Pauline Kael posted:Dude. You love saying that. Let me ask you this, without googling, how much of the typical presidential electorate (the ones that vote, since only their votes count) is made up of white suburbanites? If your scenario ('working class whites totally forever alienated from the Democrats') comes to fruition, the Democrats will be out of power for a very very long time, and in such a way that they wouldn't have anything to offer their base except lots of pissing and moaning about being powerless. Don't get me wrong, that would be just fine by me, but it is rather grating to hear you repeat over and over again that white voters are an insignificant part of the electorate, or shrinking so fast as to be irrelevant to winning the presidency. It's dumb and you should stop Hey, why are you only answering the post that's not directly in response to you? Are you afraid?
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Pauline Kael posted:Dude. You love saying that. Let me ask you this, without googling, how much of the typical presidential electorate (the ones that vote, since only their votes count) is made up of white suburbanites? If your scenario ('working class whites totally forever alienated from the Democrats') comes to fruition, the Democrats will be out of power for a very very long time, and in such a way that they wouldn't have anything to offer their base except lots of pissing and moaning about being powerless. Don't get me wrong, that would be just fine by me, but it is rather grating to hear you repeat over and over again that white voters are an insignificant part of the electorate, or shrinking so fast as to be irrelevant to winning the presidency. It's dumb and you should stop http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-census-report/
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evilweasel posted:I mean for the Presidency, which is the only thing that matters when it comes to if this program continues. So you agree with Nonsense then that the Democrats can/should effectively cede the white suburban / white working class votes to Republicans. I'm glad to hear it, and hope that the rest of your party feels exactly the same way.
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Pauline Kael posted:So you agree with Nonsense then that the Democrats can/should effectively cede the white suburban / white working class votes to Republicans. I'm glad to hear it, and hope that the rest of your party feels exactly the same way. What he's saying is that that's already happened.
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Pauline Kael posted:So you agree with Nonsense then that the Democrats can/should effectively cede the white suburban / white working class votes to Republicans. I'm glad to hear it, and hope that the rest of your party feels exactly the same way. This happened in the 80s with Reagan.
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Let's see what else he goes on about : Oh, war on coal, there's a good one. Lots of talking about the 'Liberal Elite'. Very healthy opinion. Nope, don't see how he is valid in any way over statistics. I get the feeling he REALLY hates California. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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Tread carefully, Obama, for this is a dangerous path. If you continue down it, you may lose the white vote... forever! lmao I applaud Joel Kotkin for resisting the impulse to mention Agenda 21 in this otherwise hilariously ignorant article. Good show old chap.
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CommieGIR posted:Let's see what else he goes on about : Oh, war on coal, there's a good one. Lots of talking about the 'Liberal Elite'. Very healthy opinion. Check out his article on California's "green gentry" 
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CommieGIR posted:Let's see what else he goes on about : Oh, war on coal, there's a good one. Lots of talking about the 'Liberal Elite'. Very healthy opinion. Lots of census stats in there, suburbs are growing, much faster than cities, much to the chagrin of the left. Suburbs vote Republican. Math isn't hard here, it just doesn't say what you guys want it to.
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Pauline Kael posted:Lots of census stats in there, suburbs are growing, much faster than cities, much to the chagrin of the left. Suburbs vote Republican. Math isn't hard here, it just doesn't say what you guys want it to.  Then its no surprise that you are the only one who somehow finds him valid to this discussion. Bravo.
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Pauline Kael posted:So you agree with Nonsense then that the Democrats can/should effectively cede the white suburban / white working class votes to Republicans. I'm glad to hear it, and hope that the rest of your party feels exactly the same way. The Democrats have conceded the white nativist vote that resembles you some time ago. The Democrats haven't won the "white vote" in some time. That said, there's a large contingent of liberal suburban whites who have joined with minorities in an alliance to oppress you.
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Pauline Kael posted:Lots of census stats in there, suburbs are growing, much faster than cities, much to the chagrin of the left. Suburbs vote Republican. Math isn't hard here, it just doesn't say what you guys want it to. Okay, whatever, you're just parroting what people said about how demographics would guarantee a permanent Democratic majority, very funny.
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Effectronica posted:Okay, whatever, you're just parroting what people said about how demographics would guarantee a permanent Democratic majority, very funny.  "He says what I want to hear..."
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Pauline Kael posted:Lots of census stats in there, suburbs are growing, much faster than cities, much to the chagrin of the left. Suburbs vote Republican. Math isn't hard here, it just doesn't say what you guys want it to. The essential premise of the article is: 1) Progressives like totally hate suburbs 2) But suburbs are growing! 3) Suburbs will universally reject the progressive agenda 4) Progressives are therefore doomed This is how a crazy person thinks.
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Pauline Kael posted:Lots of census stats in there, suburbs are growing, much faster than cities, much to the chagrin of the left. Suburbs vote Republican. Math isn't hard here, it just doesn't say what you guys want it to. Are you real? You can stop now, people get it. It's going to be okay.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:The essential premise of the article is: They way he writes it, he is suggesting the Suburbs will slowly integrate into the 'Blue Collar' red voters in the country. I don't know how else he fails to explain how most suburbs/urban tend to be blue, versus the distant suburbs that are really more open country and sparsely populated to begin with.
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Senf posted:Are you real? You can stop now, people get it. It's going to be okay. When a person with half a brain gets half an opinion it's easy to believe you've got a complete thought.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Phyllis Schlafly has weighed in. She wants a civil war I say bring it. Maybe she can go like Edmund Ruffian.
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Crowsbeak posted:She wants a civil war I say bring it. Maybe she can go like Edmund Ruffian. Ruffin. I still cannot believe his Plantation became a historic site. But no, the blood spilled would just fuel her and she would grow younger by the day as she bathed in the blood of the innocent.
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CommieGIR posted:Ruffin. I still cannot believe his Plantation became a historic site. Nah, she'd never bathe in non-white people's blood.
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mdemone posted:So are we going to see Hillary traipsing around next week saying "how 'bout that Obama, huh? What a swell thing for a guy to do!"  evilweasel posted:The Democrats have conceded the white nativist vote that resembles you some time ago. The Democrats haven't won the "white vote" in some time. That said, there's a large contingent of liberal suburban whites who have joined with minorities in an alliance to oppress you.  Sidenote: My official stance on immigration is "amnesty for all, and open the border to everyone". I'm completely serious; the US is a nation of immigrants, it's what makes us great. So yeah, this executive order is good, but doesn't go far enough. 
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dratquote:Early leak of a White House Press Release on Obama's announcement for Executive Action. Early leak of a White House Press Release on Obama's announcement for Executive Action
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Misandrist Duck posted:drat Note that like 85% of these "deportations" are just turning people back at the border.
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hahahahahahaha holy poo poo, how can anyone take this guy seriously? At least the other crazies have cogent arguments that only work in galt's gulch, but he's honestly arguing that blacks and hispanics are getting fed up with democrats in california. code:code:pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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This covers two categories:quote:A parent of US citizens or lawful permanent residents on the date of the announcement, are not enforcement priorities and have been in the US since January 1, 2010, or The first one is pretty big, but it does not include parents of people in the second category.
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pathetic little tramp posted:hahahahahahaha holy poo poo, how can anyone take this guy seriously? At least the other crazies have cogent arguments that only work in galt's gulch, but he's honestly arguing that blacks and hispanics are getting fed up with democrats in california. Dude how could you not mention Kashkari's drowning ad in which he pretended to save a kid from Also 
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Dude how could you not mention Kashkari's drowning ad in which he pretended to save a kid from BARAK OBAMA, GIVE ME BACK MY EAGLES! But seriously, will this EO qualify folks to vote?
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My Imaginary GF posted:BARAK OBAMA, GIVE ME BACK MY EAGLES! No. That requires naturalization, which requires an act of Congress.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Dude how could you not mention Kashkari's drowning ad in which he pretended to save a kid from Oh poo poo I forgot about that one, right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEZFdmwqG3Q Dude looks like a mix of Stone Cold Steve Austin and Charles Manson
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pathetic little tramp posted:Oh poo poo I forgot about that one, right! Dunno, given all the slightly off-putting asymmetries in his face I'd say he looks more like a mix between Lex Luthor and Two-Face. You're welcome for the mental images.
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