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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/victorian-election-2014-be-alert-pm-and-very-alarmed/story-fni0ffxg-1227140025665

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IF you�re a Liberal, be scared. If you�re Prime Minister Tony Abbott, be alarmed. The Liberals should never have lost Victoria�s election.

No other Victorian government in the past 59 years has been thrown out after just one term.

This one shouldn�t have been, either.

Its Budget is the healthiest in the country. It�s had no major scandals, and no Labor-style desalination plant disaster bleeding billions.

It�s also had no inspirational Opposition. New Labor Premier Daniel Andrews is a man from the Socialist Left who vowed to tear up a massive road contract at God knows what cost, and made at least $24 billion of promises.

Labor even remains formally tied to the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union, many of whose officials have had charges recommended against them by the counsel assisting the royal commission into union corruption. The new Planning Minister is a CFMEU member.

And to make things worse, the Greens, as predicted, may control the balance of power in the Upper House, and have at least one seat in the Lower House. When did Labor and Greens between them last deliver prosperity?

Yet the Liberals lost. And the Abbott Government may well lose, too, especially if it�s now panicked into repeating the mistakes that helped lose Victoria.

True, Abbott cost the Liberals votes. Labor didn�t put up posters of his face at every polling station because voters love him.

But let�s not exaggerate. As Victorian Labor frontbencher Martin Pakula insisted on election night, the Abbott factor was small.

The Victorian Liberals were in fact behind in the polls all year, since before Abbott�s Budget. Indeed, the Liberals had Ted Baillieu quit as Premier in 2012 in part because they were behind even then.

This election result is actually simpler to explain than many commentators think.

ANDREWS: �WE WON�T WASTE A DAY�

SURPRISE WINS OFFERS LIB A GLIMMER OF HOPE

FEDERAL MPs: LOSS NOT OUR FAULT

GREENS WIN MELBOURNE IN HISTORIC UPSET

MCCRANN: DAN�S IN A JAM NOW

GIDLEY: LIBS MUST TAKE LONG HARD LOOK

RACV NOMINATES TOP LEVEL CROSSING THAT MUST GO

There were the usual local issues that hurt the Napthine Government � cuts to TAFE colleges and an eternal pay dispute that had paramedics turn the state�s ambulances into mobile billboards against the Liberals.

But wait. Is this starting to ring bells in Canberra, where the Liberals spent half the year talking about foreign affairs, not the bread and butter stuff?

Most importantly, though, the Victorian Liberals came to power with unemployment at 4.9 per cent. It�s now 6.8 per cent, and growth dangerously weak.

It really is the economy, stupid. The Victorian Liberals could boast that the books balanced, but that didn�t matter that much while factories kept closing and the dole queues kept growing.

Yet what did the Victorian Liberals do? For the first two years almost nothing.

And under shy Baillieu they said almost nothing, too. They did not pin Labor�s disasters � especially the desal plant � around Labor�s neck and did not explain the future they were building.

Again, does all this sound familiar to the Abbott Government, which let Labor off the hook and struggles to explain what it�s about � the sunny purpose to the pain it�s having to cause? Unemployment meanwhile edges upwards.

Nor did the Victorian Liberals explain their philosophy. It was as if they lacked the courage of their few convictions, taking cues instead from the overpowerful ABC and The Age.

Yes, they did put more controls on wind farms. But they kept much of the Labor ideological detritus they could have junked to enthuse their base � the oppressive religious vilification laws, the apartheid justice of the Koori Courts, the anti-democratic charter of human rights. They banned fracking.

Pre-selection candidates such as John Roskam, head of the Institute of Public Affairs, were even rejected for having threatening ideas. We can�t be ideological, Victoria�s Liberals agreed.

So they became bland instead. The result was little enthusiasm from their own members, who couldn�t figure the point of the Liberals.

Even former Liberal premier Jeff Kennett, no hardliner, could last week award the Napthine Government no more than eight out of 25 on his scorecard (while giving Labor just five.)

The state�s few conservative commentators, me included, barely got out of first gear, and on the ground, Labor�s campaigners outran the Liberals.

Is this, too, familiar to Abbott�s Liberals, who have ditched their promise to restore free speech, shied from workplace reform, bowed to the global warming gods and pledged to entrench race-based division in our constitution by recognising people with some Aboriginal ancestors as the �first� Australians?

Yes, elections are won in the middle, not by pandering to your party�s extremists.

But Liberal parties without the guts or wit to stand for Liberal values neither dismay their enemies nor inspire their friends. If they can�t even get the economy ticking they look weak.

BLOG WITH ANDREW BOLT

I can�t be too harsh on Abbott. He faces a spiteful Senate that blocks him at almost every turn.

He, almost alone of his ministers, is also trying to sneak in conservative changes, including his admittedly unconvincing knighthoods.

But the rest? Ask the trembling ministers now whispering that even this government is too Right wing and needs to move even more Left. Ask those now wondering whether they wouldn�t be better off under someone who won�t startle horses.

Ah, which brings me to one more powerful warning from Victoria � that dramas are deadly.

The worst of those dramas was Liberal MP Geoff Shaw, who was kicked out of the party for misusing his parliamentary car but then repeatedly revenged himself on the government with his casting vote.

With Labor�s gleeful help, Shaw turned Parliament into an almost unworkable circus.

How voters hate that kind of carry-on. They hated it from the independents and the Greens under the Gillard Government. They�re hating it now with Clive Palmer, Jacqui Lambie and the independents under Abbott.

And to top it off, Victoria�s Liberals mysteriously lost their initial Premier, Ted Baillieu, after Shaw demanded his head. Switching to a second leader made the government look twice as aged come the election.

Voters are so over the backstabbers, drama queens and clowns in Parliament. So over the screaming.

Is that also resonating in Canberra, where the Government is letting the likes of Lambie kick its head in day after day?

The Victorian Liberals played timid and lost. They were not punished for being too radical, but too meek.

They should have been more like Queensland Premier Campbell Newman�s government, which got an inquiry to explain the state was headed for bankruptcy, then slashed total spending, scrapping even the Premier�s Literary Awards to drive home the point.

Moreover, �Can Do� Newman always looks positive, even with an axe in his hands, and now, with the direction clear and the projected debt halved, he seems headed for re-election next year.

Which lesson, then, will the Abbott Government learn?

To defend or attack? To retreat or stand firm? To replace their leader or unite? To cringe or to fight, fight, fight?

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Bolt has aneurisms and shits words onto a page using mad libs style templates with right wing turds

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# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 01:11

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Being a socialist means that I care about the welfare of other humans in my community and apparently that is a bad thing according to the right wing media and leaders.

I hate this planet. Being a caring human being is not a bad loving thing jesus loving christ.

This is why I do drugs. A world where caring about other people is a flaw is stupidly hosed up.

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# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 15:37

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I am OK with extra penalty rates on both AFL grand final whatever and also Easter Sunday

# ¿ Dec 2, 2014 22:49

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I feel like I can just do whatever I want to whoever I want because Australia doesn't believe in (making sure) justice (is rained down upon) rich white people.

i got banned fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 6, 2014

# ¿ Dec 6, 2014 17:23

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If Australia got rid of penalty rates I literally would not be able to live and would probably die

# ¿ Dec 7, 2014 14:56

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If they got rid of penalty rates do you think everyone on casual contracts would get shifted to salary wagehahahaha I couldn't even finish that without laughing

# ¿ Dec 7, 2014 15:09

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Ok, so Bishop is going to make drug possession legal from now on or? You know, for the sake of consistency.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2014 00:47

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OPERTAION: GET ARE KALYNDA HOME XOXO

This stupid loving country. P.s I love all this leadership speculation. Truly the adults are in charge. All the Liberal supporter tears whining about how the media won't let them just get on with the job of running the country is too much for me to handle.

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# ¿ Dec 10, 2014 00:55

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I sell magic beans that make you dance for hours and hug everyone they come straight from amsterdam and are p. awesome

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 00:54

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The only people surprised by that happening are swing voters and holy poo poo the deep seething rage I hold against swing voters is about comparable to how smug Brandis feels when he deflects questions in the chamber

I mean the loving IPA released a report of things it thought were fantastic ideas and that right there was on it.

I'm pretty sure if we did the opposite of everything the IPA thought was a good idea we would live in a beautiful utopia of sunshine and good vibez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqk-CLxrW6s

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# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 01:41

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The rationale is that all government agencies are wasteful and they should not exist.

Except for career politicians on $300,000 PA and all the other expenses they are allowed, that is democracy manifest.

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quote:

IPA REVIEW ARTICLE

| John Roskam, James Paterson and Chris Berg
If Tony Abbott wants to leave a lasting impact - and secure his place in history - he needs to take his inspiration from Australia's most left-wing prime minister.

No prime minister changed Australia more than Gough Whitlam. The key is that he did it in less than three years. In a flurry of frantic activity, Whitlam established universal healthcare, effectively nationalised higher education with free tuition, and massively increased public sector salaries. He more than doubled the size of cabinet from 12 ministers to 27.

He enacted an ambitious cultural agenda that continues to shape Australia to this day. In just three years, Australia was given a new national anthem, ditched the British honours system, and abolished the death penalty and national service. He was the first Australian prime minister to visit communist China and he granted independence to Papua New Guinea. Whitlam also passed the Racial Discrimination Act. He introduced no-fault divorce.

Perhaps his most lasting legacy has been the increase in the size of government he bequeathed to Australia. When Whitlam took office in 1972, government spending as a percentage of GDP was just 19 per cent. When he left office it had soared to almost 24 per cent.

Virtually none of Whitlam's signature reforms were repealed by the Fraser government. The size of the federal government never fell back to what it was before Whitlam. Medicare remains. The Racial Discrimination Act - rightly described by the Liberal Senator Ivor Greenwood in 1975 as �repugnant to the rule of law and to freedom of speech' - remains.

It wasn't as if this was because they were uncontroversial. The Liberal opposition bitterly fought many of Whitlam's proposals. And it wasn't as if the Fraser government lacked a mandate or a majority to repeal them. After the 1975 election, in which he earned a 7.4 per cent two-party preferred swing, Fraser held 91 seats out of 127 in the House of Representatives and a Senate majority.

When Mark Steyn visited Australia recently he described political culture as a pendulum. Left-wing governments swing the pendulum to the left. Right of centre governments swing the pendulum to the right. But left-wing governments do so with greater force. The pendulum always pushes further left.

And the public's bias towards the status quo has a habit of making even the most radical policy (like Medicare, or restrictions on freedom of speech) seem normal over time. Despite the many obvious problems of socialised health care, no government now would challenge the foundations of Medicare as the Coalition did before it was implemented.

Every single opinion poll says that Tony Abbott will be Australia's next prime minister. He might not even have to wait until the current term of parliament expires in late 2013. The Gillard government threatens to collapse at any moment. Abbott could well be in the Lodge before Christmas this year.

Abbott could also have a Fraser-esque majority after the next election. Even if he doesn't control the Senate, the new prime minister is likely to have an intimidating mandate from the Australian people. The conditions will suit a reformer: although Australia's economy has proven remarkably resilient, global events demonstrate how fragile it is. The global financial crisis, far from proving to be a crisis of capitalism, has instead demonstrated the limits of the state. Europe's bloated and debt-ridden governments provide ample evidence of the dangers of big government.

Australia's ageing population means the generous welfare safety net provided to current generations will be simply unsustainable in the future. As the Intergenerational Report produced by the federal Treasury shows, there were 7.5 workers in the economy for every non-worker aged over 65 in 1970. In 2010 that figure was 5. In 2050 it will be 2.7. Government spending that might have made sense in 1970 would cripple the economy in 2050. Change is inevitable.

But if Abbott is going to lead that change he only has a tiny window of opportunity to do so. If he hasn't changed Australia in his first year as prime minister, he probably never will.

Why just one year? Whitlam's vigour in government came as a shock to Australian politics. The Coalition was adjusting to the opposition benches. Outside of parliament, the potential opponents of Whitlam reforms had yet to get organised. The general goodwill voters offer new governments gives more than enough cover for radical action. But that cover is only temporary. The support of voters drains. Oppositions organise. Scandals accumulate. The clear air for major reform becomes smoggy.

Worse, governments acclimatise to being in government. A government is full of energy in its first year. By the second year, even very promising ministers can get lazy. The business of government overtakes. MPs start thinking of the next election. But for the Coalition, the purpose of winning office cannot be merely to attain the status of being �in government'. It must be to make Australians freer and more prosperous. From his social democratic perspective, Whitlam understood this point well. Labor in the 1970s knew that it wanted to reshape the country and it began doing so immediately.

The time pressure on a new government - if it is to successfully implant its vision - is immense. The vast Commonwealth bureaucracies and the polished and politically-savvy senior public servants have their own agendas, their own list of priorities, and the skill to ensure those priorities become their ministers' priorities. The recent experience of the state Coalition governments is instructive. Fresh-faced ministers who do not have a fixed idea of what they want to do with their new power are invariably captured by their departments.

Take, for instance, the Gillard government's National Curriculum. Opposing this policy ought to be a matter of faith for state Liberals. The National Curriculum centralises education power in Canberra, and will push a distinctly left-wing view of the world onto all Australian students. But it has been met with acceptance - even support - by the Coalition's state education ministers. This is because a single National Curriculum has been an article of faith within the education bureaucracy for decades; an obsession of education unions and academics, who want education to �shape' Australia's future. (No prize for guessing what that shape might look like.) A small-target election strategy has the unfortunate side-effect of allowing ministerial aspirants to avoid thinking too deeply about major areas in their portfolio. So when, in the first week as minister, they are presented with a list of policy priorities by their department, it is easier to accept what the bureaucracy considers important, rather than what is right. The only way to avoid such departmental capture is to have a clear idea of what to do with government once you have it.

Only radical change that shifts the entire political spectrum, like Gough Whitlam did, has any chance of effecting lasting change. Of course, you don't have to be from the left of politics to leave lasting change on the political spectrum.

Both Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan proved conservatives can leave a paradigm-shifting legacy. Though Thatcher's own party strayed from her strongly free-market philosophy, one of the major reasons the British Labour Party finally removed socialism from their party platform under Tony Blair was because of Margaret Thatcher.

Ronald Reagan not only presided over pro-market deregulation and tax cuts during eight years in the White House, but also provided the ideological fuel for the 1994 Republican revolution in the House of Representatives, led by Newt Gingrich, which enacted far-reaching welfare reform.

Here we provide a list of 75 policies that would make Australia richer and more free. It's a deliberately radical list. There's no way Tony Abbott could implement all of them, or even a majority. But he doesn't have to implement them all to dramatically change Australia. If he was able to implement just a handful of these recommendations, Abbott would be a transformative figure in Australian political history. He would do more to shift the political spectrum than any prime minister since Whitlam.

We do not mean for this list to be exhaustive, and in many ways no list could do justice to the challenges the Abbott government would face. Whitlam changed the political culture. We are still feeling the consequences of that change today. So the policies we suggest adopting, the bureaucracies we suggest abolishing, the laws we suggest revoking should be seen as symptoms, rather than the source, of the problem.

Conservative governments have a very narrow idea of what the �culture wars' consists of. The culture of government that threatens our liberty is not just ensconced in the ABC studios, or among a group of well-connected and publicly funded academics. ABC bias is not the only problem. It is the spiralling expansion of bureaucracies and regulators that is the real problem.

We should be more concerned about the Australian National Preventive Health Agency - a new Commonwealth bureaucracy dedicated to lobbying other arms of government to introduce Nanny State measures - than about bias at the ABC. We should be more concerned about the cottage industry of consultancies and grants handed out by the public service to environmental groups. We should be more concerned that senior public servants shape policy more than elected politicians do. And conservative governments should be more concerned than they are at the growth of the state's interest in every aspect of society.

If he wins government, Abbott faces a clear choice. He could simply overturn one or two symbolic Gillard-era policies like the carbon tax, and govern moderately. He would not offend any interest groups. In doing so, he'd probably secure a couple of terms in office for himself and the Liberal Party. But would this be a successful government? We don't believe so. The remorseless drift to bigger government and less freedom would not halt, and it would resume with vigour when the Coalition eventually loses office. We hope he grasps the opportunity to fundamentally reshape the political culture and stem the assault on individual liberty.

1 Repeal the carbon tax, and don't replace it. It will be one thing to remove the burden of the carbon tax from the Australian economy. But if it is just replaced by another costly scheme, most of the benefits will be undone.

2 Abolish the Department of Climate Change

3 Abolish the Clean Energy Fund

4 Repeal Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act

5 Abandon Australia's bid for a seat on the United Nations Security Council

6 Repeal the renewable energy target

7 Return income taxing powers to the states

8 Abolish the Commonwealth Grants Commission

9 Abolish the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission

10 Withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol

11 Introduce fee competition to Australian universities

12 Repeal the National Curriculum

13 Introduce competing private secondary school curriculums

14 Abolish the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA)

15 Eliminate laws that require radio and television broadcasters to be 'balanced'

16 Abolish television spectrum licensing and devolve spectrum management to the common law

17 End local content requirements for Australian television stations

18 Eliminate family tax benefits

19 Abandon the paid parental leave scheme

20 Means-test Medicare

21 End all corporate welfare and subsidies by closing the Department of Industry, Innovation, Science, Research and Tertiary Education

22 Introduce voluntary voting

23 End mandatory disclosures on political donations

24 End media blackout in final days of election campaigns

25 End public funding to political parties

26 Remove anti-dumping laws

27 Eliminate media ownership restrictions

28 Abolish the Foreign Investment Review Board

29 Eliminate the National Preventative Health Agency

30 Cease subsidising the car industry

31 Formalise a one-in, one-out approach to regulatory reduction

32 Rule out federal funding for 2018 Commonwealth Games

33 Deregulate the parallel importation of books

34 End preferences for Industry Super Funds in workplace relations laws

35 Legislate a cap on government spending and tax as a percentage of GDP

36 Legislate a balanced budget amendment which strictly limits the size of budget deficits and the period the federal government can be in deficit

37 Force government agencies to put all of their spending online in a searchable database

38 Repeal plain packaging for cigarettes and rule it out for all other products, including alcohol and fast food

39 Reintroduce voluntary student unionism at universities

40 Introduce a voucher scheme for secondary schools

41 Repeal the alcopops tax

42 Introduce a special economic zone in the north of Australia including:
a) Lower personal income tax for residents
b) Significantly expanded 457 Visa programs for workers
c) Encourage the construction of dams

43 Repeal the mining tax

44 Devolve environmental approvals for major projects to the states

45 Introduce a single rate of income tax with a generous tax-free threshold

46 Cut company tax to an internationally competitive rate of 25 per cent

47 Cease funding the Australia Network

48 Privatise Australia Post

49 Privatise Medibank

50 Break up the ABC and put out to tender each individual function

51 Privatise SBS

52 Reduce the size of the public service from current levels of more than 260,000 to at least the 2001 low of 212,784

53 Repeal the Fair Work Act

54 Allow individuals and employers to negotiate directly terms of employment that suit them

55 Encourage independent contracting by overturning new regulations designed to punish contractors

56 Abolish the Baby Bonus

57 Abolish the First Home Owners' Grant

58 Allow the Northern Territory to become a state

59 Halve the size of the Coalition front bench from 32 to 16

60 Remove all remaining tariff and non-tariff barriers to international trade

61 Slash top public servant salaries to much lower international standards, like in the United States

62 End all public subsidies to sport and the arts

63 Privatise the Australian Institute of Sport

64 End all hidden protectionist measures, such as preferences for local manufacturers in government tendering

65 Abolish the Office for Film and Literature Classification

66 Rule out any government-supported or mandated internet censorship

67 Means test tertiary student loans

68 Allow people to opt out of superannuation in exchange for promising to forgo any government income support in retirement

69 Immediately halt construction of the National Broadband Network and privatise any sections that have already been built

70 End all government funded Nanny State advertising

71 Reject proposals for compulsory food and alcohol labelling

72 Privatise the CSIRO

73 Defund Harmony Day

74 Close the Office for Youth

75 Privatise the Snowy-Hydro Scheme

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 02:00

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Two of my faves:

53 Repeal the Fair Work Act

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FWC is an independent body with the power and authority to regulate and enforce provisions relating to minimum wages and employment conditions, enterprise bargaining, industrial action, dispute resolution, and termination of employment

The Liberal party want everyone to be Anidav

61 Slash top public servant salaries to much lower international standards, like in the United States

But CEO wages can only go up, up, up!

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 02:03

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But do they prevent electric fan death?

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 05:25

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They probably force people to watch it in prison to bolster the numbers

# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 15:58

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This siege and the way the Liberals will increase security for our safety ensures the Liberals get in for a second term. Calling it now.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2014 02:19

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I wanted to make music a career and also not eat dust for the rest of my life but capitalism already ruined that, not Australia.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2014 14:48

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yeah I was being kinda facetious, the old system was awful and having that smashed and the industry open to basically anyone now makes having your stuff heard so much easier.

Still having a creative thing that is enjoyed subjectively and that you basically have to be a sales rep for to eat and not die isn't ideal either.

But I'm a nihilistic gently caress and I have plenty of friends that make money from music so

# ¿ Dec 21, 2014 15:25

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Anidav posted:

I've been hoping for atleast a year and a half for the ALP to get its poo poo together.

Don't hold your breath because you might die, hopefully like the Labor party does because they shouldn't exist in their current form and are a disgrace to the movements that inspired the party.

quote:

People threatening a restaurant owner in Longreach who sparked controversy by displaying a sign saying "sorry no Muslims" may face legal consequences, police have warned.

An image of the sign, displayed outside Longreach's Eagles Nest Bar and Grill, was posted to the restaurant's Facebook page last Friday, triggering strong - and mixed - reactions.
Owner of the restaurant John Hawkes said he had received more than 200 phone calls as a result, some of which he described as abusive and threatening.

Longreach Police Inspector Mark Henderson said people sending threatening messages may face criminal charges.

"People who are threatening the owner and his wife, especially if those threats cross a certain threshold, may well face criminal charges themselves," he said.

hmmm yeah it is ok to ban a people from a restaurant based on their choice of religion but not ok to kill racists
what a lovely world

It is political correctness gone mad, if I can't say literally any stupid loving thing that pops up into my head no matter how much it insults a person and discriminates against them because words have inherent power and can cause more damage to a person's well being than actual physical violence, then what is the point? Reading Mein Kampf inside a synagogue is my god given loving right *smashes bundy can into forehead and drools onto self*

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# ¿ Dec 24, 2014 01:52

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but angus and julia stone wrote that song big jet plane I'm getting conflicting messages here

# ¿ Dec 24, 2014 05:21

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thatbastardken posted:

the Australian people certainly got taken for a ride

I don't want to empty quote but this is perfect

# ¿ Dec 24, 2014 06:11

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For every child I save from drowning I will brutally torture 200 adults.

Seems fair.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2014 08:28

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I will be asset poor and without hope for as long as baby boomers are alive.

My mum just sold her house for 1.6 million dollars I don't even

# ¿ Dec 24, 2014 11:20

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Yeah I belong to the screts muslims only know group and they give us a heads up on up coming terrorist attacks. As a personal favour for returning my wallet I will let you know about one upcoming attack.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2014 05:54

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Australia has a thing for oligarchs

# ¿ Dec 26, 2014 00:27

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Or if they suspect someone is trying to murder them. Do you have any enemies?

# ¿ Dec 27, 2014 01:58

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a nation of lifters

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I'm going to get a job at ASIO and find out what they think about all the different Auspol thread posters

Mills is probably their favourite because he reminds them of themselves.

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