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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Luigi Thirty posted:

why does all that poo poo work in europe and not america.

Alexis de Tocqueville and Ayn Rand

not kidding

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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

As a Millennial I posted:

i gotta learn my german again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgRkoaWPCoY

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

PleasingFungus posted:

the full rant is pretty long but also pretty great

I'd almost managed to forget about it too. non-consensual unzipping, iv drug use, haskell...

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

I can't believe they found a more annoying term than "females"

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

infernal machines posted:

how is this place not getting raided by the cops/dea/whatever at least once a week?

to hear some of them tell it, it's because enough of the NB crowd is white and tech-job-having, and lords that privilege over everyone else as part of the CONSPIRACY to take over ALL of San Francisco for their corporate OVERLORDS

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

atomicthumbs posted:

I don't know what that is.

it's awesome is what it is

it is to weird stuff what weird stuff is to fry's

also, overheard there today, they might be gone by the end of 2015 as the property owner may sell and the place may get redeveloped into something else blah blah blah, story of the Bay Area, this is why we can't have anything nice, etc.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Sagebrush posted:

in sf if you just want tools to work with, get a membership at the tech shop. it's expensive but the money pays to not have homeless people making GBS threads all over the tools and cooking drugs in the reflow oven

and it's not even all that expensive, especially compared to many other things in SF

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

As a Millennial I posted:

i found an old heavy instamatic at my parents house and was sad to learn that its pretty freakin useless. can't get the film OR flash bulbs i think

sell it for $$$$ on eBay to a trust fund hipster who wants it as an accessory

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Nintendo Kid posted:

bring a sane idea, doocratically become their king

bring a working project, doocratically become their god

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Mido posted:

what is happening idgi

:goku:

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Raluek posted:

what a combination of words that is

"moldy garbage spaghetti" is a great name for a punk band

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

d) someone suggests calling the police

e) no way you should never call the police ever!!!11

quote:

NEVER let the police pass the downstairs locked door.
if you can, have someone stay downstairs that can keep them out and door
shut.
if people involved in incident need to go in and out have the person let
them in and out saying out loud "WE ARE NOT letting any police in" (they
will do everything they can to get inside) and they aren't allowed to come
in (great to have on film if they do).

IF they have to be called (which should be EXTREMELY RARE), make them wait
outside as in the example of the bikes or other theft it is NOT theft until
it LEAVES the property (same as retail stores) and you can open the space
to law suits.

you also NEVER want to let the police in because as soon as you do, they
can say they were let in and have more leverage to do lots of other poo poo in
the space that isn't even related to the call.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
it might disrupt the people doocratically shooting up in the darkroom, after all

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

what would it take to help actually shut this place down?
i dont think anyone who is disadvantaged is getting anything positive being here

of course they're not, they're not who it's for

it's for people who can easily afford to join TechShop but are turned off by all of its rules about "safety" and "access" and "dues" and its proprietary attitude towards actually keeping all of its tools and hiring people to maintain them

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

qirex posted:

If I could order like 1/3 of a patxi's I'd do it

order a small, eat two slices, put the other four in the fridge for later

Chicago-style reheats well in the microwave (90s at 80%) or toaster oven and a slice or two of leftover makes an excellent breakfast

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

crusader_complex posted:

an app that lets the street vendors know when you're hungry so they can bid outside your house

as long as the prices are set by the app and the vendors are 1099 and paid scraps

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

pram posted:

well theres stuff like techshop thats a 'maker-space' but not some retarded anarcho-communue and also expensive as gently caress

yeah, under $100/month for access to all sorts of machine tools and a fairly complete wood and metal shop that are kept in decent order by paid staff sure is expensive

rule 36 all up in here

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Raluek posted:

iirc its like 170 or so for non-students

e: yea, 175 monthly or 117/mo if you pay the whole year up front. or 95 for students.

they also run a holiday special, where it's typically $995-$1095 a year for an individual membership

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

qirex posted:

I'm sure louis vuitton's legal department would love to know about this

I'm sure whoever did it got a Creative Commons license

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

I would make the cookie cutter by hand from a strip of steel and rolling/whatever

I don't think I've read about that in "make" are you sure it's really a thing?

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

this is going to revolutionize the sounding toy industry

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

BobHoward posted:

it's almost as if anarchy doesn't actually work in the real world until you compromise it to the point where it's not-anarchy

the rednecks will play "king of the neighborhood"

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

quote:

Altman recalls, “We were all wondering whether Noisebridge was going to survive at all. It was a very serious discontinuous jump in the people who didn’t belong, and in an anarchist organization, how do you define who belongs and who doesn’t? Up until then it had worked well for us for years to leave that question open-ended.”

it'd be fun to see a list of all the pre-"Occupy" clusterfucks from the mailing list to demonstrate that no, it was not an influx of socialist commies who broke their libertarian utopia, it was broken from the start

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Raluek posted:

yo just take the stairs to the right of the elevator

but then you might get grabbed by a hobo who got trapped in the room behind he elevator and had to bust out through the stairs

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
I wouldn't set anything down at Noisebridge if I was likely to touch it again

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Main Paineframe posted:

all she's really asking there is that noisebridge follow their own rules.

and this, after all, is the best way to to put the screws to them

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Nintendo Kid posted:

i hope she shows up and just prints out goatse on all printers in the space, 2d and 3d

p sure you wouldn't need to show up to do that

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

ultramiraculous posted:

from what i gather the tenderloin is the best place to experience the class war...she should try that one out.

Noisebridge should move to the tenderloin to save on rent

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

minivanmegafun posted:

same. I think every sane hackerspace may be doing this.

#notallhackerspaces

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's not child rape, it's consent-hacking

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Beast of Bourbon posted:

my name is duncan irl so that weirds me out

hi, james

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Main Paineframe posted:

oh, i figured it out

they have $8k in the tor fund, which is counted in the overall bank balance but is earmarked for the tor node specifically and can't be put toward regular noisebridge expenses, so they subtract the "tor node only" money from the "total noisebridge bank balance" to get "the amount of money we can actually spend on noisebridge stuff". they have $20k in the bank but $8k of that

since noisebridge is a 501(c)3 non-profit, donations to the tor node are tax deductible

i'm not sure how much they're actually paying for it now because, in true noisebridge fashion, nobody is updating the public info about it anymore. well, that's not quite true. they've got a public spreadsheet that shows noisetor's financials, but although it shows donations every day, it stopped showing payments in early 2013. back then, though, they had one node which they were paying $787 a month for. now they have two nodes

the next board should enact new bylaws changing that so they can use the tor funds for operating expenses and more easily ban people

the fallout would be hilarious

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Main Paineframe posted:

however, their lease comes to an end sometime this year, so rent mightwill go up

hopefully the wind up in a similar situation to Jeffrey's Toys on Market Street where their lease is going up by 5× upon renewal

I'm sure there's some VC-backed startup that would want the Noisebridge space, despite the poop

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

duTrieux. posted:

you and i were taught that only because our teachers learned to type on typewriters.

boomers forcing their habits onto their children.

not just typewriters, printers and screens with fixed-pitched fonts. there was a day when so-called "letter quality" printers were considered more professional than dot matrix. this was also around the time that supporting 80-column text was a big deal in a personal computer.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

PCjr sidecar posted:

grad students deserve to suffer

that's what they signed up for upon applying to grad school

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Main Paineframe posted:

if youre bored, they archive the notes for their weekly meetings on the wiki

Noisebridge posted:

Should we try to sell Noisebridge as a marketing tool for the building?

I hope they try to do this and their rent goes up by 10× rather than just 5×

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

atomicthumbs posted:

call me when someone invents a general assembler instead of a lovely plastic pooper

some people are working on multi-head ones that can do pick & place, CNC, and so on, not just lovely plastic pooping, but it hasn't really taken off yet because good things cost money and effort beyond "lol I just downloaded and 3d printed a dog turd"

doesn't makerbot have a deal with Microsoft to sell in their Apple Store knock-offs and didn't Windows RT include a driver for them or something?

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
also

the 3d printer just poo poo on the 3d printer

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

osirisisdead posted:

I can't believe doctors actually give people SSRI's. Seriously, what the gently caress?

SSRIs help some people, SNRIs help some people, etc.

any medication adjusting brain chemistry needs close monitoring, of course, but they can be an extremely important part of treatment by helping tweak it enough for talk therapy like cognitive behavioral therapy to be practical.

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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

FMguru posted:

i am completely over noisebridge and spend no time at all thinking about it any more, and here are 10000 words explaining why

and not a word among them about what he actually accomplished there, only that he used to like it as a place

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